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Post  weissnicht on Sat 15 Jun - 12:44

Theresa May..and traraaaa...kate mccann

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  comperedna on Sat 15 Jun - 12:44

True, Loopdaloop... and what about perverting the course of justice?

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  comperedna on Sat 15 Jun - 12:49

It's also true that the Portuguese 'failed to make any progress'... but not because of bungling...  it was because they were blocked fom making further progress because of British juristiction, potential suspects 'going home', and the UK declining, for whatever reason, to hand over details the PJ needed to carry on.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  Panda on Sat 15 Jun - 13:57

comperedna wrote:It's also true that the Portuguese 'failed to make any progress'... but not because of bungling...  it was because they were blocked fom making further progress because of British juristiction, potential suspects 'going home', and the UK declining, for whatever reason, to hand over details the PJ needed to carry on.

I actually think this is a breakthrough!!! Think about it, the Review has cost well over the budget of £3 million allocated by the Home Office, would May sanction any more expenses unless she was convinced by SY that a result would be obtained. Since the incident ocurred in Portugal it is right that any Trial should be held there. I think SY have found their suspect/s and need to tie up loose ends before making any arrests.  

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Post  Claudia79 on Sat 15 Jun - 14:06

cass wrote:wonder what portugal are thinking about this hitting our uk news --bbc online ? wonder if a statement will be made - until then i think its a load of bullshit

Haven't heard a word here.
BTW, to quote just like I did before the alterations, before starting to write, I just clicked the 'Switch Editor mode' on the right and it all went back to normal.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  Chris on Sat 15 Jun - 14:43

Loopdaloop wrote:
Chris wrote:
Loopdaloop wrote:Why are people here getting distracted by what the 'journalists' have written? 
Ignore all the crap that they always write around the outside because they are scared of being sued and look at the content. 

This is actually a positive development! A "full scale Scotland yard investigation" is missing the key word that is used whenever those five words are normally used together. 'CRIMINAL'. Logically, this must mean they have 'people of interest' who are British and accessible. Furthermore, as it is reported that Scotland Yard has taken over from the 'Portugese', that means they now have been authorised to use their powers to press charges! 


they have the right to investigate and prosecute any British suspects who might be linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342030/Scotland-Yard-takes-inquiry-Maddies-disappearance-Portuguese-police-fail-make-breakthrough-years.html#ixzz2WHOeluE3 

How many British suspects who might be linked to Madeleine's disappearance can you name?

They must also be concrete suspects and tangible to the police as they can't get authorisation for further funding on the basis of the psychics and conman that the Mccann's were utilising.

The bit in bold is not true. Only very limited offences committed abroad by UK nationals are triable in England and Wales. Excluding the unlikely offences of fraud, terrorism etc it would only leave sex offences against a child or murder/manslaughter. The Mail's sweeping statement is BS.



One might argue, that they are correct in this particular incidence and that SY feel that this could possibly be sex offences against a child (Gaspar statement RE: David Payne + Yvonne Martin's 'recognition' of DP) or even manslaughter, based upon the drugging of a child and it injuring itself and falling on the floor. [though it could also be sex offences against a child if the mythical pedo took her  the roll eyes smiley]

I would also say to you that 'fraud' in this instance is not 'unlikely' considering the deception that has been played out to damage another individual (Amaral, Bennett, Pat Brown) as well as a deception that has created vast personal gain (the fund). If the Mccann's ever faced charges, I'm sure fraud would be very much near the top of the list.



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Putting aside your speculation the Mail is indeed incorrect. The point of my comment was not in relation to whether any triable offences may or may not have not been committed but simply that the Mail's comment that SY have carte blanche to prosecute a UK national is patently wrong in law.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  Loopdaloop on Sat 15 Jun - 14:54

Chris wrote:
Loopdaloop wrote:
Chris wrote:
Loopdaloop wrote:Why are people here getting distracted by what the 'journalists' have written? 
Ignore all the crap that they always write around the outside because they are scared of being sued and look at the content. 

This is actually a positive development! A "full scale Scotland yard investigation" is missing the key word that is used whenever those five words are normally used together. 'CRIMINAL'. Logically, this must mean they have 'people of interest' who are British and accessible. Furthermore, as it is reported that Scotland Yard has taken over from the 'Portugese', that means they now have been authorised to use their powers to press charges! 


they have the right to investigate and prosecute any British suspects who might be linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342030/Scotland-Yard-takes-inquiry-Maddies-disappearance-Portuguese-police-fail-make-breakthrough-years.html#ixzz2WHOeluE3 

How many British suspects who might be linked to Madeleine's disappearance can you name?

They must also be concrete suspects and tangible to the police as they can't get authorisation for further funding on the basis of the psychics and conman that the Mccann's were utilising.

The bit in bold is not true. Only very limited offences committed abroad by UK nationals are triable in England and Wales. Excluding the unlikely offences of fraud, terrorism etc it would only leave sex offences against a child or murder/manslaughter. The Mail's sweeping statement is BS.



One might argue, that they are correct in this particular incidence and that SY feel that this could possibly be sex offences against a child (Gaspar statement RE: David Payne + Yvonne Martin's 'recognition' of DP) or even manslaughter, based upon the drugging of a child and it injuring itself and falling on the floor. [though it could also be sex offences against a child if the mythical pedo took her  the roll eyes smiley]

I would also say to you that 'fraud' in this instance is not 'unlikely' considering the deception that has been played out to damage another individual (Amaral, Bennett, Pat Brown) as well as a deception that has created vast personal gain (the fund). If the Mccann's ever faced charges, I'm sure fraud would be very much near the top of the list.




Putting aside your speculation the Mail is indeed incorrect. The point of my comment was not in relation to whether any triable offences may or may not have not been committed but simply that the Mail's comment that SY have carte blanche to prosecute a UK national is patently wrong in law.[/quote]

We're not interested in 'any particular' UK national though are we? The subject is patently The Mccann's and the case of their lost daughter.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  Guest on Sat 15 Jun - 15:45

well obviously SY and Theresa May dont believe the McCann guff about Hewlett, theyd have a hard time interviewing him, unless they get Mystic Meg in.

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Post  cass on Sat 15 Jun - 15:55

if its true re sy taking over the case -wonder if they re examine grames and eddie and keelas findings ? yep we all know that the samples sent to the uk got damaged - but theres still the big question of what they did find and where -- 15 markers out of 19 - how did they get into the car ? not enough for a conviction in portugal - but enough in the uk wonder if theres been some dna held back somewhere - a trump card ? in the 3as days someone said a sample was sent to spain

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  Panda on Sat 15 Jun - 16:01

Iris wrote:well obviously SY and Theresa May dont believe the McCann guff about Hewlett, theyd have a hard time interviewing him, unless they get Mystic Meg in.

Hi Iris, I might be very wrong but I think this is a ploy, to investigate in Britain SY would know NOW who is in their sights and they have received the nod that any criminal will be tried in Portugal. Portugal must be heartily sick of the British and the McCanns so must have been persuaded that SY has good evidence . 

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  cass on Sat 15 Jun - 16:10

cannot see if this is true that sy keep the mcanns informed - what they might mean by informed - is dont b making any long term plans going on holiday - we might want to talk to you - oh and wonder what the tapas are feeling re this news ? - how can they know if its just the press spouting shite - they cannot ever get on with their lifes can they - always awaiting a knock on the door

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  Panda on Sat 15 Jun - 16:23

cass wrote:if its true re sy taking over the case -wonder if they re examine grames and eddie and keelas findings ? yep we all know that the samples sent to the uk got damaged - but theres still the big question of what they did find and where -- 15 markers out of 19 - how did they get into the car ? not enough for a conviction in portugal - but enough in the uk wonder if theres been some dna held back somewhere - a trump card ? in the 3as days someone said a s
ample was sent to spain


Hi cass, the Final Portuges Report gave 4 theories,

1. that Madeleine died in 5a

Can't remember the others offhand, but for the Portugese to agree a trial , the evidence would have to be very strong that a crime was committed.
I think SY have got it and it's bull**** that they are going to interview 20 peopleTheresa May and Cameron would not sanction any more expenditure  with the state the economy is in. We shall see, but I feel quite optimistic and Brunt and Murray going to Portugal when they did suggests  they know there is something brewing.
 

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  jeanmonroe on Sat 15 Jun - 16:26

Did Kate 'grass' up Gerry and the T7 on her recent 'trip' to PDL?

Wonder why Gerry NEVER, EVER goes to PDL to 'feel close' to Madeleine.

Is SH busy today 're-arranging' her garden?

Before the notoriously RELIABLE SY MET POLICE DOG UNIT have a 'snifter'?

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  cass on Sat 15 Jun - 16:43

hi panda x - jean i really think somethings been happening bu what who knows ? wonder if murrat has already been questioned again - hence to his remark - bring them back to portugal ?also say sy do take over the case where does this lead the mcanns vs ga? there has already been mcs vs tb - wonder if both portugal and uk - have got their heads together and thought this is gonna stop and very soon - even if sy make a statement and say nothing more can be done that portugal has already done

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  Panda on Sat 15 Jun - 16:49

jeanmonroe wrote:Did Kate 'grass' up Gerry and the T7 on her recent 'trip' to PDL?

Wonder why Gerry NEVER, EVER goes to PDL to 'feel close' to Madeleine.

Is SH busy today 're-arranging' her garden?

Before the notoriously RELIABLE SY MET POLICE DOG UNIT have a 'snifter'?


Hi jeanmonroe,

SY has enough on its hands with regards to the pedophile arrests and the NOTW Trials so would not bother chasing imaginary "persons of interest" which has dropped from 195 to 20 . I think they found something in the Files of the Spanish Detectives which implicates the McCanns.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  interested on Sat 15 Jun - 17:12

Thanks to weissnicht for posting this article.  I was really encouraged when I read it last night especially the part about British police having the right to investigate AND PROSECUTE any British subjects linked to Madeleine's "disappearance".

I'm optimistic that finally there will be some sort of justice and Madeleine will be able to rest in peace.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  mara thon on Sat 15 Jun - 17:14

Worth reading simply for the very many comments, it appears everyone is fed up and very suspicious of the Mccanns.  Oh how things change !

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/madeleine-mccann-home-office-funds-inquiry-125301709.html#nlgsIto

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  cass on Sat 15 Jun - 17:25

thanks marathon -- i cannot copy posts from there - but loving ls post there

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Post  interested on Sat 15 Jun - 17:38

mara thon wrote:Worth reading simply for the very many comments, it appears everyone is fed up and very suspicious of the Mccanns.  Oh how things change !

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/madeleine-mccann-home-office-funds-inquiry-125301709.html#nlgsIto



Thanks mara thon - these comments are a nice change from the few "accepted" by the Mail.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  cass on Sat 15 Jun - 18:02

ok -thinking out loud here - murrat goes to the press - now i find it very strange after all this time - and then brunty outside sy - also him going to pdl - as we know murrat resides in pdl - but what to say that during a trip back to the uk he hasnt popped into sy and made a statement along the lines of this is what i know bla de bla - i have already been to the pj with this already so it is on record - and no use trying to ignore it

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  fred on Sat 15 Jun - 18:18

Murat doesn't in PDL since he got married yonks ago.

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  interested on Sat 15 Jun - 19:01

Quoting the Sky news story, Pat Brown 'tweeted':  "Someone has something huge on someone."

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  malena stool on Sat 15 Jun - 19:16

Could this be the day our wonderful, fair, unbiased, open and transparent British Justice System showed its true colours? Or will the real truth be exposed and a pair of self confessed child neglecting doctors have to stand in the dock and explain just which story they would like to run with.....

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Re: Scotland Yard takes over the enquiry

Post  malena stool on Sat 15 Jun - 19:22

God bless her, but what would the late Winnie Johnson make of the vast budgets being created for two very wealthy doctors who at the very least abandoned their daughter on a regular basis?

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Post  interested on Sat 15 Jun - 19:32

My humble suggestion to Scotland Yard, forget all the "swarthy" suggestions; start by asking Mrs. McCann the 48 questions she refused to answer in Portugal.

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