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Post  Roasted Arizona on Thu 4 Jul - 14:07

How can they possibly have ruled them out?!

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Post  margaret on Thu 4 Jul - 14:08

The woman outside SY for Sky said the police said the 12 people they want to talk to in the UK are categorically not K&G McCann.

When did SY say that!!!

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Post  kitti on Thu 4 Jul - 14:10

Let's face it......the PJ believe the mccanns are guilty......the British police believe they are guilty but there's absolutely nothing that can be done to arrest them......simple as that.

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Post  kitti on Thu 4 Jul - 14:12

margaret wrote:The woman outside SY for Sky said the police said the 12 people they want to talk to in the UK are categorically not K&G McCann.

When did SY say that!!!



Because clarrie says their not...

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Post  margaret on Thu 4 Jul - 14:13

pennylane wrote:Like I said,  WHITEWASH!!!

Yep. Based on what l've just witnessed, l agree.

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Post  flower on Thu 4 Jul - 14:15

Why would SY feel the need to emphasis that neither the McCanns nor their mates are amongst the 12 to be questioned??....................

Surely SY should be keeping an open mind....................

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Post  kitti on Thu 4 Jul - 14:16

How the hell SY are going to get past the PJ's summary I don't know and I'm glad portugal is standing their ground.


They told the portuguese NOT to under any circumstances implicate the mccanns.



Thar doesn't mean the Portuguese have to implicate anyone else.




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Post  jeanmonroe on Thu 4 Jul - 14:16

Signed by the assistant chief constable of Leicestershire:

"While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance."

Not according to SY! Totally eliminated by BHH (big boss) at SY who helped raise money for them by selling balloons a £1 a go to kiddies!

McCanns had better get CFUCK to Leicester Police, quick sharp, for suggesting that they could have been involved!


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Post  Keela on Thu 4 Jul - 14:17

So that's it then? A little girl is missing, presumed dead. The parents are not in any way responsible ( despite their ever changing stories). A never to be found ( presumably dead) pedophile is responsible. time to pull up the draw bridge then. We can't change what SY have probably decided is the truth. The McCanns will be laughing all the way to the local off-licence to get a lovely bottle of NZ Sauvignon. There is no justice if this is the case. Crime really does pay.

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Post  kitti on Thu 4 Jul - 14:18

Let's see what happens with the 38 people to be investigated ...they have to be named sooner or later don't they.



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Post  quickfingers on Thu 4 Jul - 14:19

How can they do an investigation without talking to the parents. Even if they aren't suspects surely they would need to speak with them?

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Post  kitti on Thu 4 Jul - 14:20

Just because SY do a Whitewash doesn't mean we go away.



The whitewash will make people even more determined .

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Post  kitti on Thu 4 Jul - 14:21

quickfingers wrote:How can they do an investigation without talking to the parents. Even if they aren't suspects surely they would need to speak with them?


But they have been speaking to them, they have been 'liasing' with them for the past two years, remember.

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Re: Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe - Announcement 2pm today (4th July 2013)

Post  margaret on Thu 4 Jul - 14:22

OFFICIAL MET STATEMENT

http://content.met.police.uk/Appeal/Latest-update-on-Madeleine-McCann-case/1400018438045/1257246745782

Latest update on Madeleine McCann case

04 July 2013
Incident Date

03/05/2007
Incident Location

Praia da Luz , Portugal
Description

Detectives from the Metropolitan Police Service conducting the investigative review into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have now moved to an investigative stage of the inquiry.

Over the past two years the review, whilst not complete, has been in a unique position having drawn together material from the UK, Portugal and private investigators from seven different companies.

This process has been complex and issues such as translation of material have presented particular challenges. To date some 30,500 documents have entered into the process which has generated in excess of 3,800 actions. The actions that we have completed have generated new findings and new witness evidence. ???

Our review has sought to prioritise the material, ensuring we are doing everything possible to understand what happened to Madeleine. In the absence of any clear evidence to the contrary we maintain our belief that Madeleine may still be alive.

The MPS has conducted sixteen visits to Portugal and we have met and shared our findings with key members of both the Policia Judiciaria and Judicial Authorities. Our relationship is positive and we are grateful for the co-operation we have received thus far.

We are satisfied that our review has now progressed to a position where we have identified 38 persons of interest. These individuals are from a number of European countries and we are now at an advanced stage of dialogue with each country.

Over the coming months we will be conducting assertive enquiries, with the assistance of host countries to establish more information about the individuals concerned and any potential involvement.

Twelve of the persons of interest are UK Nationals who we believe were in Portugal at the time Madeleine went missing.

Officers, under Operation Grange, have formally requested the Crown Prosecution Service submit an International Letter of Request to the Portuguese Authorities seeking assistance in obtaining evidence relating to lines of enquiry they wish to pursue. This has been done with the full support of the UK Government.

The MPS has requested, in accordance with accepted Mutual Assistance practice, that a small number of UK officers are present in Portugal whilst the enquiries are undertaken.

The MPS will be as open as our operational priorities allow but in the context of this complex operating environment we appeal for media restraint. There is a real risk that a lack of restraint could serve to seriously undermine our ability to progress.

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, heading Operation Grange said today:

"We, and the Portuguese authorities, remain completely committed to finding out what happened to Madeleine, and everything we do is utterly focused on her best interests.

"We continue to believe that there is a possibility that Madeleine is alive.

"It is a positive step in our hunt for Madeleine that our understanding of the evidence has enabled us to shift from review to investigation.

"We have identified 38 persons of interest from a number of European countries. Twelve of those people are UK Nationals who we believe were in Portugal at the time Madeleine disappeared.

"Our working relationship with the Portuguese police is positive and now that we have moved to investigation we are requesting further specific assistance through normal judicial routes.


"We remain in close contact with Kate and Gerry McCann and they are updated on our current position.

"We continue to appeal for information. If you were at the resort of Praia da Luz between 28 April and 3 May 2007, either on holiday or in residence in the resort during this period, particularly in the vicinity of the Ocean Club, and you have not been spoken to by police either here or in Portugal then please call us on 0800 0961011 if you are within the UK.

"The number for non-UK residents is +44 2071580 126. Alternatively if you do not want to speak to us directly you can contact Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.”

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Post  quickfingers on Thu 4 Jul - 14:25

I can't see where it says they are ruled out.

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Post  kitti on Thu 4 Jul - 14:27

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Post  Justiceforallkids on Thu 4 Jul - 14:28

i dont know about anyone else but this doesnt change anything im not going anywhere

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Post  kitti on Thu 4 Jul - 14:29

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Post  kitti on Thu 4 Jul - 14:31

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Post  Roasted Arizona on Thu 4 Jul - 14:31

Before all the recent cover ups by the police, like Hillsborough, Saville and the like, I wouldn't have believed our police would cover something this big up......I've changed my mind on that now!

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Re: Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe - Announcement 2pm today (4th July 2013)

Post  margaret on Thu 4 Jul - 14:32

quickfingers wrote:I can't see where it says they are ruled out.  

Yes, l meant to say that. It doesn't say the parents are ruled out......

Remember when the case was shelved? They were all over the news with their press conference, not today though. I think l heard it said they would not be giving interviews.

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Post  mossman on Thu 4 Jul - 14:33

They have 38 persons of interest, not suspects. The tapas are not among those persons of interest, that does not rule them out as suspects, neither does it mean they will not be interviewed, just not within those 38 persons.


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Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 4 Jul - 14:37

I don't think there's anything new there, nothing that hasn't been all over the net when it was reported that SY was taking over the investigation.

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Post  Keela on Thu 4 Jul - 14:38

If they believe there is a chance she is still alive, how do they square the fact that a specialist dog indicated the smell of cadaverine? If it wasn't this particular smell then I don't like Kate's choice of perfume. I don't see how they can disregard this aspect. Dogs can't be persuaded to lie or even instructed to lie. They do what they are trained to do and that is detect.

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Post  almostgothic on Thu 4 Jul - 14:39

mossman wrote:They have 38 persons of interest, not suspects.  The tapas are not among those persons of interest, that does not rule them out as suspects, neither does it mean they will not be interviewed, just not within those 38 persons.

Spot on!

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