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The Attorney General’s Office has ascertained, this Thursday, that “no request for mutual judiciary assistance has been received” from the British authorities,

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Post  Justiceforallkids Sat 6 Jul - 9:19

The Attorney General’s Office has ascertained, this Thursday, that “no request for mutual judiciary assistance has been received” from the British authorities, within the scope of the investigation that has been opened in London into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in the Algarve, in 2007.

In a reply to news agency LUSA, the Attorney General’s Office clarified that “the obtaining of evidence, in Portugal, presupposes the presentation of a mutual judiciary assistance request, usually known as rogatory letter, whose execution has to be authorized by the Portuguese judiciary authorities”.

“The execution of the request has to be integrally assured by the Portuguese authorities, whether the judiciary or the police, as sovereign authorities that they are. The British authorities cannot act, on their own, in Portugal”, the Attorney General’s Office states.

It is added that if “their traveling to Portugal is allowed in order to assist the Portuguese authorities in the execution of the aforementioned mutual judiciary assistance request, a participation that is carried out in the role of an assistant”, the British police “cannot direct any questioning or carry out any diligence, of their own initiative, in Portugal”.

Meanwhile, the authorities in London have confirmed that there are Portuguese citizens among the 38 persons of interest that the British police wishes to question within the investigation that was opened in that country into the disappearance of the little British girl Madeleine McCann, which took place in Praia da Luz, in Lagos, Algarve, on the 3rd of May 2007.

Several weeks ago, the British press had already advanced the possibility that Scotland Yard would open its own investigation into the case, following the review that was opened in 2011 after the intervention of prime minister David Cameron.

At that time, the police confirmed that a delegation of high ranking officials from the Crown Prosecution and British detectives visited Portugal in mid-April in order to discuss the next steps to take with the Portuguese authorities.

The parents and another British citizen, Robert Murat, were made arguidos by the Portuguese judiciary authorities in July 2007, but on the 21st of July of 2008, the Attorney
General’s Office ordered the suspicions to be archived, which ended the investigation.


http://www.jn.pt/Dossies/dossie.aspx?content_id=3305918&dossier=O%20caso%20Maddie%20McCann&page=-1

The Portuguese Public Ministry has always admitted reopening the case if new data about the child’s disappearance appears.
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Post  Justiceforallkids Sat 6 Jul - 9:22

Attorney received no request for assistance on Maddie
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The Attorney General's Office assured, this Thursday, which "has not yet received any request for assistance" from the British authorities in the investigation opened in London the disappearance in 2007 of Madeleine McCann in the Algarve.
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Attorney received no request for assistance on Maddie
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In response to the agency Lusa, the RMP stated that "obtaining evidence in Portugal, require the submission of a request for mutual legal assistance, commonly known as letters rogatory, whose execution must be authorized by Portuguese judicial authorities."

"The execution of the application must be fully guaranteed by the Portuguese authorities, judicial or police authorities as they are sovereign. British authorities may not act alone in Portugal," said the PGR.

Adds that if "permitted them to travel to Portugal for the Portuguese authorities assist it in the execution of the aforementioned request for mutual legal assistance, participation effected by way of coadjuvação", British police "can not drive any interrogation or make any diligence, motu proprio, in Portugal. "

However, London's authorities have confirmed that there are between Portuguese 38 persons of interest that British police want to question in the investigation that was opened that country to the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann, held in Praia da Luz, Lagos, Algarve to 03 May 2007.

The British press had advanced several weeks ago the hypothesis Scotland Yard opened its own investigation into the case, the review sequimento opened in 2011 by intervention of the Prime Minister, David Cameron.

At the time, police confirmed that a delegation of senior officials of the Crown Prosecution and British detectives visited Portugal in mid-April to discuss the next steps with the Portuguese authorities.

Parents and another British Robert Murat, were made defendants by the Portuguese authorities in July 2007, but the July 21, 2008, the PGR has determined the filing of suspicion, which spelled the end of the investigations.

The MP Portuguese always admitted to reopen if new data about the child's disappearance.
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Post  comperedna Sat 6 Jul - 14:39

This translation was done by Astro from Jornal de Notícias, 05.07.2013. Thanks for putting it up here. What is odd is that comments on it... and all must surely agree that it is a particularly interesting article... are not being printed on the Joana Morais site. I know because mine was accepted for moderation as normal yesterday... but it has not appeared. Nobody's comments are up. The ticker stands at 0!

Also, is it just a co-incidence that both this Missing Madeleine site and Jill Havern's site were up for maintenance yesterday pm together?

It is easy to become paranoid in all this. The whole case, especially as represented by the comments of DI Redwood and colleagues, as reported in the press, and some seen directly on the box too, is somewhere between crazy and sinister. For instance it is truly bonkers to get the public to look out for a girl who looks like Madeleine McCann at ten years old. If she were alive, and notwithsatnding the computer aged photos... no-one has any idea what she looks/might have looked like. All straightforward lookee-likee sightings are necessarily nuts and it is a foolish way of carrying on.

Why are the Met searching for distant peripheral oddballs, and omitting to look at the bleedin' obvious right under their noses? It is completely perverse! I and hordes of others on here know the procedures any UK police force go through when a child is missing, and it ain't like what is going on now. Most commentators on the Daily Papers eg on Sky News late at night, have said as much... particularly over the 38 'persons of interest'. 'What after two years and you still have 38? What have you been doing all this time? What has all that money been spent on? What about other missing children? Why are you concerned with this missing child only?' etc etc

Big bucks have been allocated! A nice little earner for a large band of UK plods it is, certainly.

If my jaw drops any further it will hit the floor!
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Post  Justiceforallkids Sat 6 Jul - 15:01

comperedna wrote:This translation was done by Astro from Jornal de Notícias, 05.07.2013. Thanks for putting it up here. What is odd is that comments on it... and all must surely agree that it is a particularly interesting article... are not being printed on the Joana Morais site. I know because mine was accepted for moderation as normal yesterday... but it has not appeared. Nobody's comments are up. The ticker stands at 0!

Also, is it just a co-incidence that both this Missing Madeleine site and Jill Havern's site were  up for maintenance yesterday pm together?

It is easy to become paranoid in all this. The whole case, especially as represented by the comments of DI Redwood and colleagues, as reported in the press, and some seen directly on the box too, is somewhere between crazy and sinister. For instance it is truly bonkers to get the public to look out for a girl who looks like Madeleine McCann at ten years old. If she were alive, and notwithsatnding the computer aged photos... no-one has any idea what she looks/might have looked like. All straightforward lookee-likee sightings are necessarily nuts and it is a foolish way of carrying on.

Why are the Met searching for distant peripheral oddballs, and omitting to look at the bleedin' obvious right under their noses? It is completely perverse! I and hordes of others on here know the procedures any UK police force go through when a child is missing, and it ain't like what is going on now. Most commentators on the Daily Papers eg on Sky News late at night, have said as much... particularly over the 38 'persons of interest'. 'What after two years and you still have 38? What have you been doing all this time? What has all that money been spent on? What about other missing children? Why are you concerned with this missing child only?' etc etc

Big bucks have been allocated! A nice little earner for a large band of UK plods it is, certainly.

If my jaw drops any further it will hit the floor!

agree all children are special and deserve to be looked for if missing why is it only about the mcanns??
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Post  joyce1938 Sat 6 Jul - 15:13

I had an e mail today from Joanna site ,more or less repeating the mail newspapers item in todays paper, joyce 1938
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Post  tigger Sat 6 Jul - 15:25

comperedna wrote:This translation was done by Astro from Jornal de Notícias, 05.07.2013. Thanks for putting it up here. What is odd is that comments on it... and all must surely agree that it is a particularly interesting article... are not being printed on the Joana Morais site. I know because mine was accepted for moderation as normal yesterday... but it has not appeared. Nobody's comments are up. The ticker stands at 0!

Also, is it just a co-incidence that both this Missing Madeleine site and Jill Havern's site were  up for maintenance yesterday pm together?

It is easy to become paranoid in all this. The whole case, especially as represented by the comments of DI Redwood and colleagues, as reported in the press, and some seen directly on the box too, is somewhere between crazy and sinister. For instance it is truly bonkers to get the public to look out for a girl who looks like Madeleine McCann at ten years old. If she were alive, and notwithsatnding the computer aged photos... no-one has any idea what she looks/might have looked like. All straightforward lookee-likee sightings are necessarily nuts and it is a foolish way of carrying on.

Why are the Met searching for distant peripheral oddballs, and omitting to look at the bleedin' obvious right under their noses? It is completely perverse! I and hordes of others on here know the procedures any UK police force go through when a child is missing, and it ain't like what is going on now. Most commentators on the Daily Papers eg on Sky News late at night, have said as much... particularly over the 38 'persons of interest'. 'What after two years and you still have 38? What have you been doing all this time? What has all that money been spent on? What about other missing children? Why are you concerned with this missing child only?' etc etc

Big bucks have been allocated! A nice little earner for a large band of UK plods it is, certainly.

If my jaw drops any further it will hit the floor!

I don't understand why the CPS first went to Portugal - then we hear that SY is doing a full-blown investigation.
Isn't it normally the case that the police prepares a case and then submits it to the CPS? The CPS then decides if it should go to court?


Both MM and JH taken in for maintenance after a bit of messing about with the emoticons and suchlike over the last weeks. Preparing us for it as it were.
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