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So, the 'supporters' all KNOW but the parents themselves SAY they DON'T know.

Post  jeanmonroe on Wed 7 Aug - 13:02

WHY are so many McCann 'supporters' always saying that they KNOW what happened to Madeleine, when the child's OWN mother and father, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann, have said that they don't KNOW what happened to their daughter?

WHAT do the McCann 'supporters' KNOW, that the parents, of the 'missing' child, obviously DON'T know?

What are McCann 'supporters' basing their repeated pronouncements and claims that Madeleine was irrefuteably 'abducted' on?

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Post  Wintabells on Wed 7 Aug - 17:22

jeanmonroe wrote:
What are McCann 'supporters' basing their repeated pronouncements and claims that Madeleine was irrefuteably 'abducted' on?

I guess their blind faith that the parents weren't involved, therefore someone else must be responsible for the 'missing body'.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Wed 7 Aug - 18:20

I wonder what attracts people to the McCanns - it certainly isn't their caring personalities.

I can perhaps understand those who have only ever read what the tabloids think we need to know but, when it comes to those with Internet access, then it's not so easy to fathom out their motives.

As we know, some of the pros are the scum of the earth with their foul language and abuse and, while there are others who aren't like that, it's impossible to debate with them.

The McCann following is almost cult-like.

Weird!

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Post  DavidA on Wed 7 Aug - 18:37

The power of the media is very strong. If a newspaper says abduction, this is what many will believe.

Also, some people clearly are desperate to believe parents could not have be responsible for harming their child. This is evident in one of the pro McCann forums (I have forgotten the name) where most threads were angry posts about other people's opinions.

I think this case also highlights the level of how much people have open minds or not. I think people with open minds can look at more and think about more than what the media, McCanns and society say.

It is easy and nice to believe that parents would not do this. But unfortunately we know this is not true because there have been previous crimes that involve parents.

Also I believe some people do not want to look different, or to look like conspiracy people. They are happier being sheep.

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Post  Guest on Wed 7 Aug - 18:52

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I wonder what attracts people to the McCanns - it certainly isn't their caring personalities.
Plenty of people were attracted to Charles Manson.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Wed 7 Aug - 19:02

Yes, there's no doubt that some people have a magnetic personality. I used the word cult earlier and I was thinking of those like David Koresh, who died with many of his followers in Waco, Texas and Jim Jones who persuaded his followers to commit mass suicide in Guyana.  
 
I could understand how vulnerable people would be taken in by them as once, many years ago, I was involved briefly with a cult.
 
I soon realised what was going on though and they chucked me out! Don't worry, I'm not still suffering with feelings of rejection. As my son said, it was lucky that I didn't have a brain to wash!
 
As for the McCanns, they seem to have cast an "Emperor's New Clothes" type of spell over many people.

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Post  Wintabells on Thu 8 Aug - 4:28

Yes - it's interesting how people have reacted to this story. The supporters become so holier-than-thou when they're presented with the possibility that their idols could be guilty. It feels like some form of snobbery.  I looked up the definition of 'snob' and was surprised to discover that it includes 'A person with an exaggerated respect for high social position who dislikes people or activities regarded as lower-class' and 'One who tends to patronize, rebuff, or ignore people regarded as social inferiors and imitate, admire, or seek association with people regarded as social superiors'.

Could it be that those people who get so angry and sanctimonious with the doubters are in fact hoping to acquire some kind of elevated status by allying themselves with the McC's - people who they regard as their 'social superiors' simply because they're doctors?

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 8 Aug - 9:10

In my younger days (in near prehistoric times) it was normal to look up to people considered to be our "betters", whether through class and /or their occupations. Doctors of course came into that category and so did MPs (!) and my mother dreamed that one day my sister would marry one.......

It's hard to imagine that now in the 21st century there are people who treat others with sycophantic respect no matter how obvious it is that none is deserved - but yes, it could be an explanation for the new medical complaint called McCann syndrome.

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Post  almostgothic on Thu 8 Aug - 9:37

What you say rings true, Wintabells.
Middle England in particular, with its nuanced gradations of class, underpinned by all the achievements, attainments and designer-labelled acquisitions which serve to affirm their status (if only to other like minds).
People like the McCanns and their 'friends' are held up as a template for their aspirations.
Their own aspirations, passed on from their parent's similar aspirations, are then handed down to their children as the hoops which they too have to jump through.
It seems a bleak existence for those less conventional individualists who observe it, but this way of defining oneself is perpetuated from generation to generation and in great numbers.
So when suspicions are raised, in relation to their role-models, that something nasty happened in the woodshed, it's no surprise that they use denial, aggression, denigration and deceit as weapons against dissent.
For if their idols are toppled, then their once-foursquare raison d'être crumbles away.
If you're a tram, and someone takes away your tramlines, where do you go?

As an aside, being someone who takes great interest in the arts, I often go back to the idea of the 'fourth wall' - the imaginary wall in front of a conventional proscenium arch theatre stage. Through this invisible wall, the audience can see the actions of a drama being played out. And for a short time, maybe feel as if they are a part of that drama.
When the actors have taken their bows and the applause dies away, people head for the car parks and the taxi ranks - and for many, this is where their time beyond the fourth wall ends as reality kicks in once again.
But there are some who cannot separate the reality from the fantasy - and continue to attach themselves to, and fixate upon, a story or a character. And then that stardust will fall on them too  ......
The woman who knits baby clothes for a soap character who gets pregnant.
The bloke who gets rough with an actor in the street because he's recently played the part of a villain.

The TV has been the McCanns' proscenium arch. Some of a certain mindset have entered their carefully constructed world and attached themselves to the drama of these two doctors, their aspirational lifestyle and their oh-so perfect marriage. And have lapped it up to the point of cultism - not realising that it's as fictional as anything they're likely to see in the pantomime season.
Or if they do realise, they don't care. The McCanns' myth (and their myth) has to be perpetuated at all costs.

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