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Post  Roasted Arizona on Tue 15 Oct - 21:19

Don't think it's already been posted. Just saw this on Twitter

@JillyCL: Amaral tells Portuguese paper Irish family who saw suspect carrying girl thought there was `high level of probability' it was Gerry #McCann

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Post  wjk on Tue 15 Oct - 22:01

Yay!! So glad that's getting 'out there'!!  

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 15 Oct - 22:03

Crimewatch has definitely stirred things up. One Facebook group has had 4,000 new members in the past few days.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 15 Oct - 22:04

wjk wrote:Yay!! So glad that's getting 'out there'!!  
He must be delighted that at last the Smith sighting is getting some mainstream attention.

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Post  wjk on Tue 15 Oct - 22:05

AnnaEsse wrote:Crimewatch has definitely stirred things up. One Facebook group has had 4,000 new members in the past few days.
Wow! That's excellent!  

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Post  dutchclogs on Wed 16 Oct - 4:40

Good Mr Amaral   

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Post  Annabel on Wed 16 Oct - 5:08

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/345388/Ex-Portuguese-detective-attemps-to-smear-Maddie-McCann-s-father-again

Goncalo Amaral, 56, who was sacked from the case, said Scotland Yard’s new chief suspect “may be Gerry McCann”.

He added that Martin Smith, who saw the suspect and a child, was “80% sure” the man was Gerry.

The McCanns are suing Amaral for £1million over his book about the case.

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Post  jinvta on Wed 16 Oct - 5:10

Oh FFS, this is not a smear it is fact! Just read the witness statement!

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Post  Panda on Wed 16 Oct - 6:14


I'm not sure Amaral should make that comment when he is in the middle of a Libel Suit. The Smiths were interviewed by the Irish Police at the request of the PJ , but no action was taken by them. Also Kennedy interviewed them so his testimony could also be used. Mrs Smith declined to be interviewed by the Guarda, and I don't think Smith's testimony would be acceptable in a Court , his observation that when he saw Gerry boarding a Plane carrying his Son it reminded him that the man in PDL carried his child the same way.'..... hardly conclusive is it .

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Post  Roasted Arizona on Wed 16 Oct - 8:24

They had to write it in that way to save law suits, BUT I think it's great that it is out there in print..

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Post  chrissie on Wed 16 Oct - 10:25

Same here! The more people who read that the better.

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Post  Guest on Wed 16 Oct - 11:51

Martin Smith's statement is in the released files, in the public domain, it's not a secret and it cannot be hushed up. It's available to anyone who Googles for it. Why shouldn't Dr Amaral mention it?

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Post  Estelle on Wed 16 Oct - 11:58

PJ Brought Back to Portugal 3 of the McCanns Friends in Secrecy

In a secret visit to Portugal, three persons who had dinner at the Tapas Bar shattered the McCanns and Jane Tanner versions

Fiona Payne, her mother Dianne Webster, and the husband David Payne. Are the main trumps of the Public Ministry that will lead the parents of Madeleine McCann, the missing girl, on the 3rd of May of 2007, from an apartment in Praia da Luz, Algarve, to be accused of the crimes of exposition and abandonment since they left the girl alone in that critical night. It is a crime that is punishable up to ten years of prison and allows the respective preventive arrests, like 24horas announced last week.

These three witnesses returned to Portugal, on the 11th of July of 2007, in a travel paid by the Portuguese State, and were accommodated in a hotel unity of Portimão. They were still questioned by Gonçalo Amaral’s team, the superior coordinator who was removed from the case, and they contradicted the McCann’s version regarding to what went on in the night of the disappearance.

[url=http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/06/pj-brought-back-to-portugal-3-of.html]

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Post  Angelina on Wed 16 Oct - 12:00

I've always been under the impression this was a rumour....is it actually documented somewhere?

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Post  Guest on Wed 16 Oct - 12:02

Maybe in the files that were not released. And here's another thing. It was said at the libel trial that some files were not released due to some of the people involved having a history of sexual offences.

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Post  the slave on Wed 16 Oct - 12:05

Maybe...just maybe this is why the Payne's were SO noticeably absent from the Crimewatch prog.
Maybe.

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Post  Angelina on Wed 16 Oct - 12:05

Maybe or maybe not. Not really of any use unless it is substantiated.

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Post  chrissie on Wed 16 Oct - 12:06

Iris wrote:Maybe in the files that were not released.  And here's another thing.  It was said at the libel trial that some files were not released due to some of the people involved having a history of sexual offences.
IIRC Leicestershire police had a say in what they didn't want released from the files.

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Post  Estelle on Wed 16 Oct - 12:16

Jane Tanner, her companion, Russell O'Brien, Matthew Oldfield and his wife, Rachel – gave contradictory statements”. And the judicial person in charge exemplifies: "”Jane Tanner always said that she went out from the restaurant to see her oldest daughter. Fiona, David and Dianne guaranteed to the PJ that she never left the restaurant before the alarm was given by Kate. This information was corroborated by several workers of the Tapas Bar restaurant”. These witnesses also stated that Gerry McCann did not even go to check on the children, when he went away of the restaurant, and that he only stayed at the apartment of Praia da Luz entrance.

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Post  Estelle on Wed 16 Oct - 12:54

I have been following this case since May, 2007 and it was been widely believed in the early days that Jane Tanner had seen a man on a previous night taking his child back from the creche so she used this idea to give the abduction idea credence and to blame Robert Murat.

Many posters used to think that it was Gerry who was seen by Martin Smith and his family carrying a child as he wanted to give the abduction idea credence too initially but Jane Tanner later came up with her idea and they went along with that.

The idea was to be a premeditated faked abduction by Gerry who was hoping to be seen but not recognised. No one would carry a dead child around PDL so most posters used to predict that Gerry carried either Jane Tanner's daughter or his sedated daughter, Amelie. He then hurried back to the apartment with her and put her in bed hence the delay in phoning the GNR.

I have always believed in the earlier death theory due to the phone records which were studied in depth by a previous poster here so IMO Maddie was already dead and in a freezer somewhere perhaps in empty Apartment J? and later moved to the Renault Scenic - hence the cadaver was found there. Amaral stated that the body had been frozen.

There is suspicion that a substitute Maddie lookalike (hence the discrepancy in photos) also called Madalene (but spelled differently) was signed into the creche all week so Maddie never went there. It is predicted that Gerry forged her father's signature so it was all planned in advance. This has all been reported to the PJ since and now SY are looking into the phone records.

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Post  Estelle on Wed 16 Oct - 12:56

Meanwhile remember this article Friends of McCanns 'scared to tell truth' from Tuesday, 12 November 2007 published in the Evening Standard and later on thisislondon.co.uk. Notice that the title and the article were updated, contents changed [deleted], the updated article can still be found here.

“It’s not that he is scared of the McCanns, but the economic and political lobby surrounding the couple is truly frightening to anybody.”

A friend of Kate and Gerry McCann wants to "reveal the whole truth" about the case but is frightened of the couple's political allies, a lawyer claimed yesterday.

One of the so-called Tapas Nine wants to help Portuguese police with the six-month investigation but "feels obliged to keep silent", according to the unnamed legal source.

The lawyer attacked the intervention of "certain politicians" in the case and said they had prejudiced the hunt to discover what really happened to Madeleine McCann. Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Foreign Secretary David Miliband both spoke to the couple directly before the McCanns were made official suspects in the case.

Direct contact stopped when they were made arguidos in September but the Premier has been briefed on the case since then and raised it with his Portuguese counterpart last month.

The unnamed lawyer, who claimed to represent one of the Tapas Nine, told the respected Spanish newspaper El Mundo: "My client feels obliged to keep silent about what he can do to help the investigation, and not because of the Portuguese secrecy laws.

"It's not that he is scared of the McCanns, but the economic and political lobby surrounding the couple is truly frightening to anybody.

"What my client wants is to reveal the whole truth, but he does not mean to accuse or blame anyone, as that is the job of the police.

"The only thing he wants is to help the police discover the truth about what happened before, during and after that dinner on May 3."

McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell branded the report "utter rubbish" and insisted there was no rift between the couple and any of their friends.

He said the seven friends who dined with the McCanns that night only had one lawyer between them, and said he had not made any of the comments.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/06/pj-brought-back-to-portugal-3-of.html


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Post  margaret on Wed 16 Oct - 13:07

the slave wrote:Maybe...just maybe this is why the Payne's were SO noticeably absent from the Crimewatch prog.
Maybe.
I thought the same, a subtle message?  

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Post  frencheuropean on Wed 16 Oct - 13:17

I don't know if it has alreay been posted but it's a confirmation of the title!:



http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/goncalo-amaral-irish-familys-testimony.html ( a video comes with this article)

Gonçalo Amaral: 'Irish family's testimony has enormous relevance to the investigation'
16 October 2013 | Posted by Joana Morais Leave a Comment


Former PJ coordinator recalls that testimony pointed to Gerry McCann

by Nuno Miguel Maia and Óscar Queirós

How do you see the fact that only now Scotland Yard has presented an e-fit alleged to be of the main suspect? And of having made an arrest of another suspect?

- If the the e-fit is based on the Irish family's testimony that, in the night of the facts, saw a man carrying a child walking towards the beach, that e-fit will have to be in someway similar to Gerry McCann, since it was that person [Martin Smith] that has identified him with a high degree of probability. Why was this published only now is something you will have to ask Scotland Yard. As to the "another suspect", no suspect was detained. It was someone who "bragged" about having seen Madeleine and it's alleged that he had paedophile material in his computer. Thus, his detention is not a direct result of any investigation related to the disappearance of the child.

Why was that e-fit only made now and which criteria are behind that arrest? Do you believe that it has any veracity and is it important for the investigation?

- I believe I have already answered partially to your question. If we are talking about the Irish family's testimony that I have referred to, then it has an enormous relevance to the investigation. We only hope that their initial statements aren't misrepresented and "rewritten".

BBC made a programme on the reconstitution of the events related to Maddie disappearance. How do you see the fact that the McCann couple and their friends have refused to do a reconstitution at the time of the [PJ] investigation?

- It's not a reconstitution. Or rather, it is not a reconstitution as foreseen in our Code of Criminal Procedure, which was rendered impossible due to the unavailability of the participants (suspects and friends). It should be recalled what the prosecutor of the Republic stated at the time of the archival of the process: with the non-participation in the reconstitution, the couple lost the possibility to prove their innocence. In fact that is what the reconstitution offers, the opportunity to enlighten and clarify any doubts, and it should be done by the participants, while alive.

In the investigation that you coordinated, were there suspects and identikits?

- The investigation had had three suspects. Some identikits were made.

Did you, as coordinator of the investigation, had at your disposal all the necessary means?

- The only problem that we had was lack of time. As you know, I was removed from the investigation after six months. Therefore, we lacked time.

In this type of investigation, what is the importance of the time factor?

- It is crucial. It's necessary to act quickly and in a timely manner. Initiate the investigation immediately and then have time to investigate all the leads and answer to all questions. That was what I didn't have.

in Jornal de Notícias, October 15, 2013, paper edition

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ITV News' Europe Correspondent Emma Murphy interviews Gonçalo Amaral, ITV, October 15, 2013




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Post  frencheuropean on Wed 16 Oct - 14:39

ITV interview of G.Amaral ( 15 /10/2013) posted on you tube now:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zwscrIZug60

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Post  wjk on Wed 16 Oct - 14:46

frencheuropean wrote:ITV interview of G.Amaral ( 15 /10/2013) posted on you tube now:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zwscrIZug60
Thanks, frencheuropean  

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