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Post  pennylane on Sun 27 Oct - 12:04

frencheuropean wrote:Any comment coming from Redwood, the master plagiarist?
Oh, good one!  

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  frencheuropean on Sun 27 Oct - 12:57

The Bild Zeitung in Germany quotes the Times:



http://www.bild.de/news/ausland/maddie-mccann/fall-maddie-mccann-hinweise-jahrelang-vertuscht-33145312.bild.html
 Titel : Why were  clues hidden for years?

FALL MADDIE
Warum wurden Hinweise
jahrelang zurückgehalten?
Privatdetektive hatten die Informationen schon seit 2008
VergrößernMadeleine McCann
Madeleine, „Maddie“ McCann verschwand am 3. Mai 2007 im Familienurlaub in Portugal. Mit diesen Phantombildern sucht die Polizei mittlerweile nach einem Mann, der sie weggetragen haben soll
Foto: Reuters, AP/dpa



27.10.2013 - 12:56 Uhr
Londnon – Der Fall Maddie McCann – er wird immer mysteriöser! Nach dem großen TV-Appell von Scotland Yard (darunter auch in Deutschland bei „Aktenzeichen XY ... ungelöst“), bei dem neue Erkenntnisse und zwei Phantombilder eines Verdächtigen veröffentlicht wurden, kam jetzt raus: Diese Hinweise sind überhaupt nicht neu!
VergrößernModerator Rudi Cerne (r.) mit Chef-Ermittler Andy Redwood (l.) und Maddies Eltern Kate und Gerry McCann
SEIT SECHS JAHREN WIRD SIE VERMISST
Der Fall Maddie McCann
Moderator Rudi Cerne (r.) mit Chef-Ermittler Andy Redwood (l.) und Maddies Eltern Kate und Gerry McCann
vorheriges Elementnächstes Element
1 / 7
Privatdetektive, die Kate und Gerry McCann angeheuert hatten, fanden schon 2008 Zeugen, die einen Unbekannten mit einem Kind im Arm gesehen hatten. Es gab auch Phantombilde des Mannes.
Die Informationen übermittelten sie an den „Find Madeleine“-Hilfsfonds, der die weltweite Suche nach dem Mädchen unterstützte. Doch laut „Sunday Times“, die Einsicht in den Bericht hatte, blieben die neuen Spuren geheim.
Warum wurden die Hinweise jahrelang zurückgehalten?
Der damalige Leiter der Privat-Ermittlungen, Henri Exton, ein früherer Mitarbeiter des britischen Inlandsgeheimdienstes MI5, kann sich das bis heute nicht erklären: „Wir erhielten einen Brief der Fonds-Anwälte, in dem wir zu Vertraulichkeit aufgefordert wurden.“
Darin sei seiner Firma Oakley International sogar bei Nichtbeachtung mit rechtlichen Schritten gedroht worden, so Exton weiter. Ohne schriftliche Erlaubnis dürfe der Bericht nicht Scotland Yard übergeben werden.
Dies geschah erst jetzt – und die neuen Erkenntnisse wurden von der Polizei präsentiert, zusammen mit den Phantombildern.
Warum dieser Maulkorb? Hätten die Erkenntnisse den Fall nicht schon damals weiterbringen können? Denn für Scotland Yard gilt der Mann inzwischen als Hauptverdächtiger.
Die wichtige Zeugenaussage
Der irische Tourist Martin Smith und seine Familien hatte den Privatermittlern seinerzeit berichtet, sie hätten am Abend von Maddies Verschwinden, am 3. Mai 2007 gegen 22 Uhr, einen Mann gesehen, der ein Kind im Arm gehalten habe. Sie lieferten auch eine Beschreibung des Mannes.
VergrößernMit diesen beiden Phantombildern sucht die englische Polizei einen Mann
Mit diesen beiden Phantombildern sucht die englische Polizei nach dem inzwischen Hauptverdächtigen im Fall Maddie. Laut den Privatdetektiven, die für die McCanns 2008 ermittelten, entstanden die Bilder schon 2008 nach Aussagen von irischen Zeugen
Foto: Reuters
Doch der Fonds sah diese Aussage nicht als entscheidend an, teilte er Henri Exton mit. Sie sei „übertrieben“. Man wolle sich vielmehr auf die Aussage einer Bekannten der McCanns konzentrieren. Sie hatte in dem Ferienort ebenfalls einen Mann gesehen, der an dem Abend, gegen 21.15 Uhr, ebenfalls ein Kind trug.
Inzwischen ist klar: Es war der Vater des Mädchens, holte sie aus einer Abendbetreuung der Ferienanlage in sein Apartment.
Die Bilder des anderen Verdächtigen blieben in der Schublade – bis jetzt.
Exton und seine Mitarbeiter sind empört. „Ich war total verblüfft, als ich die Bilder und den Bericht im TV sah“, zitiert die Sunday Times einen von ihnen. „Dies ist alles nicht neu  – und die Phantombilder sind unsere!“
Der Maddie-Hilfsfonds streitet jedes Fehlverhalten ab, teilte in einer Stellungnahme laut „Sunday Times“ mit, dass „alle Informationen, die auf dem Privatweg ermittelt wurden“, an Scotland Yard weitergegeben wurden.
Dort sind seit den Sendungen in England, Deutschland und Holland mehr als 2400 Hinweise von Zuschauern eingegangen. Auch die portugiesische Polizei hat die Ermittlungen wieder aufgenommen.
Doch Maddie bleibt verschwunden.
DER FALL MADDIE MCCANN
Phantombilder, Hinweise, Chancen: Wie geht es jetzt weiter im Fall Maddie?
NACH „XY …“-SENDUNG
Portugal ermittelt wieder im Fall Maddie!
Nach der „XY...“-Sendung in drei Ländern hat jetzt auch die Polizei in Portugal die Maddie-Ermittlungen wieder aufgenommen.
mehr...
5 WICHTIGE FRAGEN Wie geht es weiter im Fall Maddie?
MADDIES ELTERN IM TV Kate McCann: „Wir brauchen Ihre Hilfe"
12
MODERATOR RUDI CERNE „Der Fall Maddie geht mir besonders ans Herz“
FALL MADDIE Spur nach Deutschland
PREMIUM BILDPLUS INHALT
WARUM VERSCHWAND SIE? 7 Theorien im Fall Maddie
BBC CRIMEWATCH Dieses Video soll das Maddie-Rätsel lösen
"MIRROR" BERICHTET Festnahme im Fall Maddie!
MADELEINE MCCANN Führt die Spur nach Deutschland?
VERSCHWUNDENE MADDIE Portugal boykottiert neue Ermittlungen
SUCHE NACH 38 PERSONEN Neue Ermittlungen im Fall Maddie
.......................................................................................................................................................................Google::
MADDIE CASE
Why were indications
held back for years ?
Private investigators already had the information since 2008
VergrößernMadeleine McCann
Madeleine " Maddie " McCann disappeared on 3 May 2007 at the family holiday in Portugal. These phantom images, the police are looking now for a man who is said to have carried away they
Photo: Reuters , AP / dpa



27.10.2013 - 12:56 clock
Londnon - The Maddie McCann case - he will always be mysterious ! After the big TV appeal from Scotland Yard ( including Germany with " unresolved reference number XY ... " ), in which new knowledge and two phantom images of a suspect was released , now came out : These notes are not new at all !
VergrößernModerator Rudi Cerne (right) with chief investigator Andy Redwood (left) and Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry McCann
SINCE SIX YEARS IS MISSING YOU
The case of Maddie McCann
Presenter Rudi Cerne (right) with chief investigator Andy Redwood (left) and Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry McCann
Previous item Next item
Seventh
Private investigators who had Kate and Gerry McCann hired in 2008 found witnesses who had seen a stranger with a child in her arms. There was also the man phantom image.
The information they sent to the 'Find Madeleine ' Relief Fund , which supported the worldwide search for the girl. But according to "Sunday Times" , had the insight in the report, the new tracks remained secret.
Why the information was withheld for years ?
The then head of private investigations , Henri Exton , a former employee of the British domestic intelligence agency MI5 , can not explain to this day : "We received a letter from the fund 's lawyers , in which we were asked to confidentiality . "
It was his firm Oakley International was even threatened with legal action for non-compliance , so Exton on. Without the written permission of the report should not be handed over to Scotland Yard .
This happened only now - and the new findings were presented by the police , along with the phantom images .
Why the muzzle ? Had the findings of the case can not bring even then ? Because for the Scotland Yard man is now considered a prime suspect .
The important testimony
The Irish Tourist Martin Smith and his family had the private investigators at the time reported that they had on the evening of Maddie's disappearance on 3 May 2007 saw about 22 clock , a man who had held a child in her arms. They also provided a description of the man .
VergrößernMit these two phantom images explores English police a man
With these two phantom images , the English police are searching for the now prime suspect in the Maddie case . According to private investigators determined for the McCanns in 2008 , the photos were taken in 2008, according to statements from witnesses Irish
Photo: Reuters
However, the fund saw this statement is not as crucial , he shared with Henri Exton . She was " exaggerated." Rather, they wanted to focus on the testimony of a friend of the McCanns . She was also seen in the resort of a man . On the evening against 21.15 clock , also carrying a child
It is now clear : it was the girl's father , she took care of the night from a holiday resort in his apartment .
The images of the other suspects remained in the drawer - until now.
Exton and his staff are outraged . " I was totally amazed when I saw the pictures and the report on TV ," the Sunday Times quoted one of them. "This is nothing new - and the phantom images are ours! "
The Maddie Relief Fund denies any wrongdoing , said in a statement with loud "Sunday Times" that "all the information that was obtained on the private road " , was passed on to Scotland Yard.
There, more than 2400 notes have been received from viewers since the shows in England, Germany and Holland. The Portuguese police have taken up the investigation again .
But Maddie is gone.


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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Claudia79 on Sun 27 Oct - 12:59

tanszi wrote:they should be Claudia79.  Do you think Claudia79 that the Portuguese do not know about this report and sighting, after all it has been hidden since 2008 and they would not have had access to the PI investigation, illegal or otherwise..  im not suggesting that they are incompetent by not knowing, the McCs are so deceitful and manipulative. imo.

I agree Iris the McCs are f****** t******.
Well, if they didn't they know now...

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  wantthetruth on Sun 27 Oct - 13:05

Good to see another Newspaper picking up on it (albeit Bild in Germany) Come on UK press........

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Panda on Sun 27 Oct - 13:10

Germany and Holland agreed to show Crimewatch on TV, what must they be thinking about this latest fiasco....who is going to believe anything SY say now , We thought the Portugese were complaining about Metodo 3 being engaged to search for Madeleine, instead it was Control Risk and an anonymous Benefactor to pick up the tab.This case could not get more bizarre .


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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  SteveT on Sun 27 Oct - 13:22

Just gone out and bought the Sunday Times. Had to see it with my own eyes in print!

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  tanszi on Sun 27 Oct - 13:25

well first of all Keeping Mum you always were elite, its just been confirmed.

SteveT goodman, keep it hidden! lol might need it one day.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  princess_leia on Sun 27 Oct - 13:29

Good Sunday afternoon to you all!  

I have read the news report about 5 times now, and it's slowly sinking in. Everytime I read it I pick up new bits of info.

Many times I've seen people say the tide is turning, but I really do think the tide has definitely started turning! And about time too  for The Sunday Times

So much information in that report, I had to pinch myself a few times.

If they say GA hindered the search for Madeleine then WTF has this done?

I am sitting here in absolute disbelief, and I feel quite positive, I feel that something is brewing. This cannot go on much longer, can it?

  to everyone here and elsewhere who continue to search for the truth and to those who refuse to give up!



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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  pennylane on Sun 27 Oct - 13:53

frencheuropean wrote:The Bild Zeitung in Germany quotes the Times:



http://www.bild.de/news/ausland/maddie-mccann/fall-maddie-mccann-hinweise-jahrelang-vertuscht-33145312.bild.html
 Titel : Why were  clues hidden for years?

FALL MADDIE
Warum wurden Hinweise
jahrelang zurückgehalten?
Privatdetektive hatten die Informationen schon seit 2008
VergrößernMadeleine McCann
Madeleine, „Maddie“ McCann verschwand am 3. Mai 2007 im Familienurlaub in Portugal. Mit diesen Phantombildern sucht die Polizei mittlerweile nach einem Mann, der sie weggetragen haben soll
Foto: Reuters, AP/dpa



27.10.2013 - 12:56 Uhr
Londnon – Der Fall Maddie McCann – er wird immer mysteriöser! Nach dem großen TV-Appell von Scotland Yard (darunter auch in Deutschland bei „Aktenzeichen XY ... ungelöst“), bei dem neue Erkenntnisse und zwei Phantombilder eines Verdächtigen veröffentlicht wurden, kam jetzt raus: Diese Hinweise sind überhaupt nicht neu!
VergrößernModerator Rudi Cerne (r.) mit Chef-Ermittler Andy Redwood (l.) und Maddies Eltern Kate und Gerry McCann
SEIT SECHS JAHREN WIRD SIE VERMISST
Der Fall Maddie McCann
Moderator Rudi Cerne (r.) mit Chef-Ermittler Andy Redwood (l.) und Maddies Eltern Kate und Gerry McCann
vorheriges Elementnächstes Element
1 / 7
Privatdetektive, die Kate und Gerry McCann angeheuert hatten, fanden schon 2008 Zeugen, die einen Unbekannten mit einem Kind im Arm gesehen hatten. Es gab auch Phantombilde des Mannes.
Die Informationen übermittelten sie an den „Find Madeleine“-Hilfsfonds, der die weltweite Suche nach dem Mädchen unterstützte. Doch laut „Sunday Times“, die Einsicht in den Bericht hatte, blieben die neuen Spuren geheim.
Warum wurden die Hinweise jahrelang zurückgehalten?
Der damalige Leiter der Privat-Ermittlungen, Henri Exton, ein früherer Mitarbeiter des britischen Inlandsgeheimdienstes MI5, kann sich das bis heute nicht erklären: „Wir erhielten einen Brief der Fonds-Anwälte, in dem wir zu Vertraulichkeit aufgefordert wurden.“
Darin sei seiner Firma Oakley International sogar bei Nichtbeachtung mit rechtlichen Schritten gedroht worden, so Exton weiter. Ohne schriftliche Erlaubnis dürfe der Bericht nicht Scotland Yard übergeben werden.
Dies geschah erst jetzt – und die neuen Erkenntnisse wurden von der Polizei präsentiert, zusammen mit den Phantombildern.
Warum dieser Maulkorb? Hätten die Erkenntnisse den Fall nicht schon damals weiterbringen können? Denn für Scotland Yard gilt der Mann inzwischen als Hauptverdächtiger.
Die wichtige Zeugenaussage
Der irische Tourist Martin Smith und seine Familien hatte den Privatermittlern seinerzeit berichtet, sie hätten am Abend von Maddies Verschwinden, am 3. Mai 2007 gegen 22 Uhr, einen Mann gesehen, der ein Kind im Arm gehalten habe. Sie lieferten auch eine Beschreibung des Mannes.
VergrößernMit diesen beiden Phantombildern sucht die englische Polizei einen Mann
Mit diesen beiden Phantombildern sucht die englische Polizei nach dem inzwischen Hauptverdächtigen im Fall Maddie. Laut den Privatdetektiven, die für die McCanns 2008 ermittelten, entstanden die Bilder schon 2008 nach Aussagen von irischen Zeugen
Foto: Reuters
Doch der Fonds sah diese Aussage nicht als entscheidend an, teilte er Henri Exton mit. Sie sei „übertrieben“. Man wolle sich vielmehr auf die Aussage einer Bekannten der McCanns konzentrieren. Sie hatte in dem Ferienort ebenfalls einen Mann gesehen, der an dem Abend, gegen 21.15 Uhr, ebenfalls ein Kind trug.
Inzwischen ist klar: Es war der Vater des Mädchens, holte sie aus einer Abendbetreuung der Ferienanlage in sein Apartment.
Die Bilder des anderen Verdächtigen blieben in der Schublade – bis jetzt.
Exton und seine Mitarbeiter sind empört. „Ich war total verblüfft, als ich die Bilder und den Bericht im TV sah“, zitiert die Sunday Times einen von ihnen. „Dies ist alles nicht neu  – und die Phantombilder sind unsere!“
Der Maddie-Hilfsfonds streitet jedes Fehlverhalten ab, teilte in einer Stellungnahme laut „Sunday Times“ mit, dass „alle Informationen, die auf dem Privatweg ermittelt wurden“, an Scotland Yard weitergegeben wurden.
Dort sind seit den Sendungen in England, Deutschland und Holland mehr als 2400 Hinweise von Zuschauern eingegangen. Auch die portugiesische Polizei hat die Ermittlungen wieder aufgenommen.
Doch Maddie bleibt verschwunden.
DER FALL MADDIE MCCANN
Phantombilder, Hinweise, Chancen: Wie geht es jetzt weiter im Fall Maddie?
NACH „XY …“-SENDUNG
Portugal ermittelt wieder im Fall Maddie!
Nach der „XY...“-Sendung in drei Ländern hat jetzt auch die Polizei in Portugal die Maddie-Ermittlungen wieder aufgenommen.
mehr...
5 WICHTIGE FRAGEN Wie geht es weiter im Fall Maddie?
MADDIES ELTERN IM TV Kate McCann: „Wir brauchen Ihre Hilfe"
12
MODERATOR RUDI CERNE „Der Fall Maddie geht mir besonders ans Herz“
FALL MADDIE Spur nach Deutschland
PREMIUM BILDPLUS INHALT
WARUM VERSCHWAND SIE? 7 Theorien im Fall Maddie
BBC CRIMEWATCH Dieses Video soll das Maddie-Rätsel lösen
"MIRROR" BERICHTET Festnahme im Fall Maddie!
MADELEINE MCCANN Führt die Spur nach Deutschland?
VERSCHWUNDENE MADDIE Portugal boykottiert neue Ermittlungen
SUCHE NACH 38 PERSONEN Neue Ermittlungen im Fall Maddie
.......................................................................................................................................................................Google::
MADDIE CASE
Why were indications
held back for years ?
Private investigators already had the information since 2008
VergrößernMadeleine McCann
Madeleine " Maddie " McCann disappeared on 3 May 2007 at the family holiday in Portugal. These phantom images, the police are looking now for a man who is said to have carried away they
Photo: Reuters , AP / dpa



27.10.2013 - 12:56 clock
Londnon - The Maddie McCann case - he will always be mysterious ! After the big TV appeal from Scotland Yard ( including Germany with " unresolved reference number XY ... " ), in which new knowledge and two phantom images of a suspect was released , now came out : These notes are not new at all !
VergrößernModerator Rudi Cerne (right) with chief investigator Andy Redwood (left) and Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry McCann
SINCE SIX YEARS IS MISSING YOU
The case of Maddie McCann
Presenter Rudi Cerne (right) with chief investigator Andy Redwood (left) and Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry McCann
Previous item Next item
Seventh
Private investigators who had Kate and Gerry McCann hired in 2008 found witnesses who had seen a stranger with a child in her arms. There was also the man phantom image.
The information they sent to the 'Find Madeleine ' Relief Fund , which supported the worldwide search for the girl. But according to "Sunday Times" , had the insight in the report, the new tracks remained secret.
Why the information was withheld for years ?
The then head of private investigations , Henri Exton , a former employee of the British domestic intelligence agency MI5 , can not explain to this day : "We received a letter from the fund 's lawyers , in which we were asked to confidentiality . "
It was his firm Oakley International was even threatened with legal action for non-compliance , so Exton on. Without the written permission of the report should not be handed over to Scotland Yard .
This happened only now - and the new findings were presented by the police , along with the phantom images .
Why the muzzle ? Had the findings of the case can not bring even then ? Because for the Scotland Yard man is now considered a prime suspect .
The important testimony
The Irish Tourist Martin Smith and his family had the private investigators at the time reported that they had on the evening of Maddie's disappearance on 3 May 2007 saw about 22 clock , a man who had held a child in her arms. They also provided a description of the man .
VergrößernMit these two phantom images explores English police a man
With these two phantom images , the English police are searching for the now prime suspect in the Maddie case . According to private investigators determined for the McCanns in 2008 , the photos were taken in 2008, according to statements from witnesses Irish
Photo: Reuters
However, the fund saw this statement is not as crucial , he shared with Henri Exton . She was " exaggerated." Rather, they wanted to focus on the testimony of a friend of the McCanns . She was also seen in the resort of a man . On the evening against 21.15 clock , also carrying a child
It is now clear : it was the girl's father , she took care of the night from a holiday resort in his apartment .
The images of the other suspects remained in the drawer - until now.
Exton and his staff are outraged . " I was totally amazed when I saw the pictures and the report on TV ," the Sunday Times quoted one of them. "This is nothing new - and the phantom images are ours! "
The Maddie Relief Fund denies any wrongdoing , said in a statement with loud "Sunday Times" that "all the information that was obtained on the private road " , was passed on to Scotland Yard.
There, more than 2400 notes have been received from viewers since the shows in England, Germany and Holland. The Portuguese police have taken up the investigation again .
But Maddie is gone.
Superb!!! Thanks frenchy xx

The McCanns must be (hate this expression but it's so appropriate) bricking it!

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Panda on Sun 27 Oct - 14:06

princess_leia wrote:Good Sunday afternoon to you all!  

I have read the news report about 5 times now, and it's slowly sinking in. Everytime I read it I pick up new bits of info.

Many times I've seen people say the tide is turning, but I really do think the tide has definitely started turning! And about time too  for The Sunday Times

So much information in that report, I had to pinch myself a few times.

If they say GA hindered the search for Madeleine then WTF has this done?

I am sitting here in absolute disbelief, and I feel quite positive, I feel that something is brewing. This cannot go on much longer, can it?

  to everyone here and elsewhere who continue to search for the truth and to those who refuse to give up!


Hi princess _liea

It's amazing the number of posters who havn't posted for a long time , but have probably checked out the Forum periodically , have realised this is endgame . Whether the McCanns, running scared by now I would think, can get Clarence to bail them out remains to be seen.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Guest on Sun 27 Oct - 14:11

wantthetruth wrote:Good to see another Newspaper picking up on it (albeit Bild in Germany)  Come on UK press........
Are you kidding me? Das Bild is absolutely huge, not only in Germany but all over Europe!  (Sad, really, as it's even trashier than the Mirror imho, but their circulation figures are phenomenal - about 3x the size of the Mirror I believe.)

eta and now my Google Ad is offering me "friendly single ladies from Croatia". That's because I have typed Das Bild.  

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Annabel on Sun 27 Oct - 14:21

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/27/madeleine-mccann-kate-gerry-mi5_n_4167645.html

Madeleine McCann Suspect E-Fit Produced By Former Spies In 2008 And Suppressed By Parents

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  pennylane on Sun 27 Oct - 14:24

Annabel wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/27/madeleine-mccann-kate-gerry-mi5_n_4167645.html

Madeleine McCann Suspect E-Fit Produced By Former Spies In 2008 And Suppressed By Parents
Thanks Annabel xx

Blimey, how long can BBC and Sky News ignore this?

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  princess_leia on Sun 27 Oct - 14:24

Panda wrote:
princess_leia wrote:Good Sunday afternoon to you all!  

I have read the news report about 5 times now, and it's slowly sinking in. Everytime I read it I pick up new bits of info.

Many times I've seen people say the tide is turning, but I really do think the tide has definitely started turning! And about time too  for The Sunday Times

So much information in that report, I had to pinch myself a few times.

If they say GA hindered the search for Madeleine then WTF has this done?

I am sitting here in absolute disbelief, and I feel quite positive, I feel that something is brewing. This cannot go on much longer, can it?

  to everyone here and elsewhere who continue to search for the truth and to those who refuse to give up!


Hi princess _liea

It's amazing the number of posters who havn't posted for a long time , but have probably checked out the Forum periodically , have realised this is endgame . Whether the McCanns, running scared by now I would think, can get Clarence to bail them out remains to be seen.
Hi Panda
Yes, I've noticed a few names have appeared lately.

I don't think there's a day gone by that I haven't read here since I registered when this forum was first set up. So I am here, just not actively posting.

I feel guilty when I do post because I tend to post when it appears that something might be happening or I post because I feel so pissed off lol I applaud everyone who has stuck with it, because I've seen how difficult it's been. I love reading everyone's thoughts on the case. And I hope one day we can all celebrate when justice is done, I don't know if that will ever happen, but I will ALWAYS live in hope!

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Guest on Sun 27 Oct - 14:25

Annabel wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/27/madeleine-mccann-kate-gerry-mi5_n_4167645.html

Madeleine McCann Suspect E-Fit Produced By Former Spies In 2008 And Suppressed By Parents
Big headline. Comments not allowed. What a surprise.  

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  almostgothic on Sun 27 Oct - 14:29

Absolutely damning headline! Says it all!  

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  cass on Sun 27 Oct - 14:30

how the hell can this be spun - will this man be called a lier now

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  wantthetruth on Sun 27 Oct - 14:52

Iris wrote:
wantthetruth wrote:Good to see another Newspaper picking up on it (albeit Bild in Germany)  Come on UK press........
Are you kidding me? Das Bild is absolutely huge, not only in Germany but all over Europe!  (Sad, really, as it's even trashier than the Mirror imho, but their circulation figures are phenomenal - about 3x the size of the Mirror I believe.)

eta and now my Google Ad is offering me "friendly single ladies from Croatia".  That's because I have typed Das Bild.
  
I know how big it is. I used to live in Germany!

It's just not so big in the UK, and THAT's where I want to see this story all over the papers.

But, this is a huge step forward!

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  wantthetruth on Sun 27 Oct - 14:53

Iris wrote:
Annabel wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/27/madeleine-mccann-kate-gerry-mi5_n_4167645.html

Madeleine McCann Suspect E-Fit Produced By Former Spies In 2008 And Suppressed By Parents
Big headline.  Comments not allowed.  What a surprise.   
more progress.......!

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  winjoy on Sun 27 Oct - 14:54

princess_leia wrote:
Panda wrote:
princess_leia wrote:Good Sunday afternoon to you all!  

I have read the news report about 5 times now, and it's slowly sinking in. Everytime I read it I pick up new bits of info.

Many times I've seen people say the tide is turning, but I really do think the tide has definitely started turning! And about time too  for The Sunday Times

So much information in that report, I had to pinch myself a few times.

If they say GA hindered the search for Madeleine then WTF has this done?

I am sitting here in absolute disbelief, and I feel quite positive, I feel that something is brewing. This cannot go on much longer, can it?

  to everyone here and elsewhere who continue to search for the truth and to those who refuse to give up!


Hi princess _liea

It's amazing the number of posters who havn't posted for a long time , but have probably checked out the Forum periodically , have realised this is endgame . Whether the McCanns, running scared by now I would think, can get Clarence to bail them out remains to be seen.
Hi Panda
Yes, I've noticed a few names have appeared lately.

I don't think there's a day gone by that I haven't read here since I registered when this forum was first set up. So I am here, just not actively posting.

I feel guilty when I do post because I tend to post when it appears that something might be happening or I post because I feel so pissed off lol I applaud everyone who has stuck with it, because I've seen how difficult it's been. I love reading everyone's thoughts on the case. And I hope one day we can all celebrate when justice is done, I don't know if that will ever happen, but I will ALWAYS live in hope!
Like many others, I don't post either but have followed this case since the McCanns first announced their daughter had been abducted. I have longed for something, like this article in the ST, to kick start the end-game and this really does have to be 'it' !! It cannot possibly be spun away by CM can it!

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  cass on Sun 27 Oct - 14:57

this is one of the times where i wish i knew how to do linkys and stuff - a forum that i post on has guest posting and has allowed mcann thread for a few weeks there - love spreading the word:grin: 

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  widowan on Sun 27 Oct - 15:04

Annabel wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/27/madeleine-mccann-kate-gerry-mi5_n_4167645.html

Madeleine McCann Suspect E-Fit Produced By Former Spies In 2008 And Suppressed By Parents
Whew!!

Why the muzzle, indeed.

HuffPost has disabled comments.

I'm just wondering what utter balderdash Kate will come up with about this. While Gerry blusters along as the head of the choo choo I think it's Kate shoveling the coal in a lot of the time.

Just must be wanting to shoot themselves in the thought that THEY not only left the abduction open to happen, lied about it to mislead the investigation about their neglect and that resulted in the case being shut down, and also then suppressed evidence of what MI5 and now SY think was the REAL ABDUCTOR.

Remind me not to take them too seriously as "assistants" speaking of Keystone Kops.

The Fund was meant to pay Oakley and it did not because Halligen took the money and didn't pay the subs, but if someone stiffed me after doing that work and then put a gag on me, I think I'd find a way to let it come out.

Poor Madeleine, if (big if) she were still alive in 2008 they could have had her home - now five years on it'll be so much tougher to find this guy. Nothing was helped by suppressing this to chase Bundleman apart from the Incorrect theory that he abducted MM at 915 on foot. Gerry's alibi.

Makes ya think.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  MaryB on Sun 27 Oct - 15:04

I wonder if somebody will have an answer to this. Maybe the person the Smith's saw will come forward and be another innocent parent taking their child home. But this would be a bit of a coincidence. I wonder how this will develop.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  tanszi on Sun 27 Oct - 15:20

So in July 2008 Dr Goncalo Amarals book was published, and at that time the McCs were not interested in what he had to say. Then in 2008 Oakley International produce a report on investigations which is suppressed by the parents. The parents are suing Goncalo Amaral for Libel on their behalf and for their suffering and the suffering of their children, and that the book hindered the search for Madeleine.

No wonder there was talk of negotiations.

I also really pi**ed off at SY. they knew about the libel trial, what is was about and what the McCs were about.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  jinvta on Sun 27 Oct - 15:36

Did the PJ have access to these files? The timing of the reopening of the case and the release of this bombshell cannot be coincidental. Either the PJ just received these files and decided to reopen the case, or they found out about their existence and will request to receive them.

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