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Post  Annabel on Wed 30 Oct - 13:13

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/man-killed-in-tractor-accident-could-have-been-madeleine-mccanns-kidnapper-8913112.html


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/440100/BREAKING-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-killed-in-tractor-accident-say-shock-reports

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Post  quickfingers on Wed 30 Oct - 13:21

This bit jumped out at me

It was written by three journalists, including a senior reporter who recently gave evidence at the ongoing libel trial the McCanns brought against Goncalo Amaral over a controversial July 2008 book he wrote falsely accusing them of faking their daughter's abduction to cover up her death.


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Post  pennylane on Wed 30 Oct - 13:22

mossman wrote:I don't believe the Portugese have made any comment. áI believe they will have looked into disgruntled employees of course and perhaps looked more closely at one or two of them. áThis Lawyer for the McCanns seems to be a bit of a big mouth, he seems to get a comment in everywhere.


Pennylane - do not roll your eyes at me BUT I think this is strategy......the Tapas lot will not set foot on Portugese soil unless they think it is safe to do so. áLull them into a false sense of security, if you like. á

Well it's as credible as the poor tractor man story. á
I won't roll my eyes, mossman xx but the investigation is so tacky I can't see anyone buying it, no matter what they're up to.

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Post  mossman on Wed 30 Oct - 13:24

pennylane wrote:
mossman wrote:I don't believe the Portugese have made any comment. áI believe they will have looked into disgruntled employees of course and perhaps looked more closely at one or two of them. áThis Lawyer for the McCanns seems to be a bit of a big mouth, he seems to get a comment in everywhere.


Pennylane - do not roll your eyes at me BUT I think this is strategy......the Tapas lot will not set foot on Portugese soil unless they think it is safe to do so. áLull them into a false sense of security, if you like. á

Well it's as credible as the poor tractor man story. á
I won't roll my eyes, mossman xx but the investigation is so tacky I can't see anyone buying it, no matter what they're up to.
I know á

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Post  jeanmonroe on Wed 30 Oct - 13:28

fuzeta wrote:Have they put up a photo of this man, does he look like the efit? áá


This is him AFTER being squished by the tractor!

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Wed 30 Oct - 13:38

It's spreading like the plague now.
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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/348155/-Maddie-snatcher-died-in-tractor-accident-four-years-ago-shock-new-claims-from-Portugal

Note the libellous heading "Maddie snatcher".

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Post  interested on Wed 30 Oct - 13:49

The Daily Star has been channeling "Di's Ghost" (according to today's front page). Perhaps the Star can get in touch with this poor man's ghost so that he can rebut the accusation. But then again it would not be "helpful" for the McCanns.

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Re: Correio da Manha: PJ track suspicious dead employee of Ocean Club UPDATE From Joana Morais on Pg.8

Post  almostgothic on Wed 30 Oct - 13:51

And the fact that it is spreading like the plague should make us even more suspicious.

But who set the hare running?
Was it Missing Mitchell or is Lift Consulting still McCann-active in Portugal?
Or a combination of both (as they are affiliates via B-M).

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Re: Correio da Manha: PJ track suspicious dead employee of Ocean Club UPDATE From Joana Morais on Pg.8

Post  vikkipollard5 on Wed 30 Oct - 14:09


Wow. That's unbelievable...

...Literally, unbelievable.

Unfortunately, it looks like Pat Brown was right.

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/

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Post  interested on Wed 30 Oct - 14:22

Did he look like "Smithman"?

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Re: Correio da Manha: PJ track suspicious dead employee of Ocean Club UPDATE From Joana Morais on Pg.8

Post  LJC on Wed 30 Oct - 14:23

Only if they find her body will I be convinced it was this person. He's either buried or cremated long since, so he can't be questioned.

His wife may have been shielding him, if this is true, or this may turn out to be bogus altogether.

I would find it hard to believe that he slipped through the net the first time around because past employees with a grievance were being sought by the PJ and if he left well and truly under a cloud, making his name mud, then his name would be the first on the list.

It would be interesting to know how long he was employed for, what he was sacked for and whether he had any criminal record.


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Re: Correio da Manha: PJ track suspicious dead employee of Ocean Club UPDATE From Joana Morais on Pg.8

Post  Annabel on Wed 30 Oct - 14:23

I thought it was a maid who was sacked and claimed she snatched the child in a revenge plot.

www.news.com.au/national/royal-tip-renews-search-for-maddie-mccann/story-e6frfkp9-1111114540441

An anonymous e-mail sent to the prince's official website says the three-year-old Madeleine was kidnapped from the Mark Warner Ocean Club holiday resort in Portugal by a disgruntled ex-employee.

The informant named a maid who was sacked from the apartment complex in Praia da Luz and claimed she snatched the child in a revenge plot.


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Re: Correio da Manha: PJ track suspicious dead employee of Ocean Club UPDATE From Joana Morais on Pg.8

Post  LJC on Wed 30 Oct - 14:30

Annabel wrote:I thought it was a maid who was sacked!

http://steelmagnolia-mccannarchives.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/prince-charles-website-names-suspect-in.html
Well according to this there are other sacked employees - which in a place that size would not be unusual anyway, but more needs to be known, especially as to his character and his past.

Most former employees with a grudge, if they are hell bent on revenge, usually commit arson or cause criminal damage, or give the place a bad press.

Okay, if he was a sex offender with a record, then its suspicious, if not it is still not impossible to be accused of committing sex offences on the basis you were too clever to get caught previously.

Also, the tractor accident raises questions for me. Too much of a coincidence that he could have done this and then had a fatal accident 2 years later. Now, if it were suicide, that would raise a red flag or two.

Or is it the tractor part that's suspicious? I mean, if he worked on a farm there is potential to bury a body after all.

Anyway, if and when Madeleine's body is recovered it will solve these issues, but until then...


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Post  kitti on Wed 30 Oct - 14:34

Weren't all the employees sacked after she went missing....including the cleaners..

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Post  chrissie on Wed 30 Oct - 14:35

kitti wrote:Weren't all the employees sacked after she went missing....including the cleaners..
That's my understanding...

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Re: Correio da Manha: PJ track suspicious dead employee of Ocean Club UPDATE From Joana Morais on Pg.8

Post  kitti on Wed 30 Oct - 14:36

How does snatching a kid get back at his employer ?



Usually you let the employers tyres Down or spread malicious gossip...but steal a kid.....don't think so.

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Post  widowan on Wed 30 Oct - 14:46

So does this guy bear a passing resemblance to the efit?

Was he not working in the "pedo ring" they are following up on , the various blond short haired guys seen standing or rather lurking around 5a?

Another person to have his name and family dragged through the mud.

If they really think he was involved then they'll go dig up around his house in Lagos I presume.

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Post  ann_chovey on Wed 30 Oct - 14:48

Annabel wrote:I thought it was a maid who was sacked!

http://steelmagnolia-mccannarchives.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/prince-charles-website-names-suspect-in.html

An anonymous e-mail sent to the prince's official website says the three-year-old Madeleine was kidnapped from the Mark Warner Ocean Club holiday resort in Portugal by a disgruntled ex-employee.

The informant named a maid who was sacked from the apartment complex in Praia da Luz and claimed she snatched the child in a revenge plot.
According to psychic Carole Everett all those years ago it was a couple 'Carlos' the handyman and 'Juanita' the maid with a big fat German thrown in for good measure!





http://www.caroleverett.com/ce-crime/maddy-mccann.htm

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Post  LJC on Wed 30 Oct - 14:50

widowan wrote:So does this guy bear a passing resemblance to the efit?

Was he not working in the "pedo ring" they are following up on , the various blond short haired guys seen standing or rather lurking around 5a?

Another person to have his name and family dragged through the mud.

If they really think he was involved then they'll go dig up around his house in Lagos I presume.
Or if he works on a farm they'll dig the land up.

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Post  quickfingers on Wed 30 Oct - 14:50

From the Star article:

One of the men blamed gypsies for a string of robberies in the area and told police he had seen travellers stealing firewood from an Ocean Club warehouse around four months before Madeleine disappeared.

If the robbery was 4 months prior then they obviously have very little crime there. Stealing firewood in the winter is hardly the same as stealing a child!


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Post  widowan on Wed 30 Oct - 15:19

I wonder if SY is rethinking their strategy of openly talking about the case. They had to know it'd bring the papers in with all their nonsense.

Dueling investigations and with it dueling tabloid "journalism"

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Post  interested on Wed 30 Oct - 15:54

Did the dead man have a swarthy complexion and was "tractor man" a Gypsy?

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Post  frencheuropean on Wed 30 Oct - 15:56

Not credible at all. A fight between S.Y and the P.J to be the first to find the ultimate abductor. Too many abductors kill the abductors.

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Post  Guest on Wed 30 Oct - 16:19

When are they going to resurrect the blonde woman with the wig, the beret and the trench coat?

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Post  wantthetruth on Wed 30 Oct - 16:31

Well, we knew there would have to be some serious damage limitation this week but seriously, can't they come up with anything more believable?

Sack the spin Dr. His imagination is shot.

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