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Answer Page by Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  interested on Fri 13 Dec - 20:15

Dr. Roberts' latest post "Answer Page" is available at www.mccannfiles.com (latest news, scroll down)

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Post  BelEddie on Sat 14 Dec - 10:06

Gerry McCann statement to police (extract), 4.5.07):

'Thus, at 9.05 pm, the deponent entered the club, using his key, the door being locked. Club?

So, after six years we find that the patio door was locked and the external metal shutters were down. Yet G,mcscam exited via the patio stairs where he met the man with the pram. Therefore the patio door was unlocked and the shutters up? He then must have then re entered 5A locked the patio door and dropped the shutter and exited the front door and locked it, and on and on and on............

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 14 Dec - 11:16

The word club might refer to the Ocean Club, to which the apartments belonged.

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Post  Chris on Sat 14 Dec - 11:19

BelEddie wrote:Gerry McCann statement to police (extract), 4.5.07):

'Thus, at 9.05 pm, the deponent entered the club, using his key, the door being locked. Club?

So, after six years we find that the patio door was locked and the external metal shutters were down. Yet G,mcscam exited via the patio stairs where he met the man with the pram. Therefore the patio door was unlocked and the shutters up? He then must have then re entered 5A locked the patio door and dropped the shutter and exited the front door and locked it, and on and on and on............


I think "club" is just a reference to their apartment.
For me this inconsistency has always been one of the key factors is questioning their explanation. The fact that G in his first statement forgot all about the unlocked patio doors just doesn't sit right. áHow can anyone get such a simple fact so wrong - after all they had been in and out of the patio doors like yo-yos all week doing their regular checks.

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Post  kitti on Sat 14 Dec - 13:00

They realised that madeleines window which was supposedlly OPEN and visible when entering the front door....was not viable.


So hence the patio doors .


But as bundle man was 'erased' 6 years later it didn't matter as Kate could off , when doing her 10pm check....noticed the shutter up and KNEW IMMIDIATELY that Madeleine had been 'taken'.


It all could off been so different but for tanners imaginary bundle man and they could off used smith man instead....never mind.

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Post  Panda on Sat 14 Dec - 13:56

There are more holes in their testimony than a Colander and I think if the Portugese Police had ordered a Recon, justified by the anomalies in the Tapas 9
Statements, this case would have been closed within months.

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Post  widowan on Sat 14 Dec - 17:22

They didn't want to reconstruct supposedly because the PJ weren't looking for Madeleine or for the abductor but for holes in their story which "of course" there would be, a year later. (Or even a day later. Or on the night in fact.)

I don't think those patio shutters were ever down.

They can't have it both ways, either they were semi responsible like all the other parents and left the place locked up tight or they were not. If they were the abductor couldn't get in without breaking in which no one did. If not, then they lied and they left their kids very insecurely and want everyone to focus on "what may be important" that the Tanner man was there which of course is proof of abduction and alibi for Gerry however we now know that is BS too.

There's no way to solve this without the accurate intell on the checks and timelines. Clarrie told us "of course" there would be discrepancies because no one had a watch or cell phone yet Kate in her book states that they had their cell phones with them and Gerry had a watch and this is how they can pinpoint their checks exactly as they were committed to doing a better job checking on this night since Madeleine had asked where they had been the night before when she and Sean cried. So again, they have put their checks at a particular time, gone back and stated how they KNOW this is the case and are sticking by it - it's critical that the alarm wasn't raised til ten as that makes it impossible for Gerry to have been the guy who looked exactly like him, trying to hide his face and hurrying with a child towards the sea at 950 or ten.

Except that the waiter and mrs Carpenter put the hue and cry going up half an hour earlier.

Even with doors unlocked the time is so short. When Gerry got there and saw MM at 905-910 she was exactly as he had left her, so she clearly hadn't been sedated or killed prior to that. This is what brings the "highly skilled professional pedophile ring" into it but from what I've read this is not how those rings operate. They get kids without all this drama, from Thailand or eastern Europe, they buy them. The notion of a ring is fairly ridiculous. A lone opportunist could have spotted her and gone in and taken her out quickly with his hand over her mouth. That's the only abduction scenario that seems legitimate to me. And he'd have had to be watching from nearby and decide to risk it on this night - once Gerry left. That still does not explain the dog alerts which as Dr Martin says, if dogs can be sometimes wrong they are also sometimes right and even with 50% chance they'd have been right either behind the sofa or in the closet or in the car boot or on madeleine's shirt or cuddle cat ... or the key fob... any of those.

I could still be convinced that an opportunistic pedophile did see and take Madeleine but basically because "how did they get her moved and out of there the second time" is a ??

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