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Psychologist wants to reopen the case ...2009

Post  Panda on Sun 12 Jan - 12:04

Psychologist wants to reopen the Maddie case 24horas
Paulo Sargento
 
Prosecutor receives the request of Paulo Sargento
 
By Duarte Levy
18 September 2009
Thanks to Mercedes for Portuguese-Spanish translation,
and Dr Martin Roberts for Spanish-English translation
 
The man who reconstructed the disappearance of Maddie in 3D does not want the case to die
 
Public Prosecutor General (PGR), Pinto Monteiro, yesterday received yet another petition for the re-opening of the process in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, this one authored by Forensic Psychologist Paulo Sargento
 
Besides the petition sent today to the PGR, Ana Lima, advisor to Pinto Monteiro, confirmed to 24horas that an identical initiative had already been taken by a Spanish citizen, "but without prompting anything of investigative interest, for which reason it was archived."
 
In the recent document - to which 24horas has had access - Sargento bases his petition on the premise that "the couple were not correctly investigated" by either the Portuguese judiciary or the English authorities following the departure of Goncalo Amaral from the PJ's Department of Criminal Investigation in Portimao.
 
According to the psychologist, author of a 3-D video simulation based on the testimonies concerning the night of May 3rd 2007 - when Maddie is considered to have been abducted - the McCann couple were never interrogated with regard to the circumstances which prompted the washing of cuddle cat - a pink soft toy belonging to the little girl: "It would be of interest to know if Kate and Gerry were informed of the arrival of the English dogs, when and by whom." said Sargento to 24horas.
 
Before the dogs arrived
 
For the psychologist, it is revealing that Kate should wash cuddle cat before the two dogs, 'Eddie and Keela' - trained to detect cadaver odour and the scent of human blood - had arrived in Praia da Luz.
 
"Today I washed cuddle cat. I hoped not to have to do that until Madeleine's return", Kate wrote in her personal diary which she began after the disappearance of the little girl from the apartment the family occupied in Praia da Luz in the Algarve. In the diary, Maddie's mother justifies her action on the grounds that the soft toy was "a little dirty and smelly", an attitude the psychologist finds strange: "It doesn’t conform to the behaviour expected of a mother in such a situation."
 
"I determined that the washing of cuddle cat, several days before the arrival of the investigative dogs, as well as the motive for such an act, were NOT made the subject of inquiry within the overall framework of the investigation!" wrote Sargento in the petition sent to Pinto Monteiro, emphasising the fact that 'Eddie and Keela', the dogs brought in from England, had effected a "positive identification of cadaver odour on the soft toy, but not on the bed, nor the sheets where it was found by the investigators."
 
Besides this formal petition for the re-opening of the process, Ana Lima explained to 24horas that the PGR had received "dozens of e-mails and letters, usually anonymous" concerning the Maddie case, although until now they have had "no judicial relevance, failing to point specifically to concrete and credible facts."
 
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I was looking for something else and found this.....interesting that a petition was made to open the case BEFORE the
MCanns.

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Re: Psychologist wants to reopen the case ...2009

Post  jinvta on Sun 12 Jan - 22:16

How many days before Eddie and Keela's arrival did Kate wash cuddle cat? That cat must have completely reeked of death to have still indicated cadaver odor after going through the wash. Many have always found it suspicious that Kate would have washed cuddle cat, Madeleine's favorite toy, as it should have smelled of her scent and most parents with a truly missing child would not dream of washing a child's most valued possession.

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Post  Panda on Mon 13 Jan - 2:50

jinvta wrote:How many days before Eddie and Keela's arrival did Kate wash cuddle cat? That cat must have completely reeked of death to have still indicated cadaver odor after going through the wash. Many have always found it suspicious that Kate would have washed cuddle cat, Madeleine's favorite toy, as it should have smelled of her scent and most parents with a truly missing child would not dream of washing a child's most valued possession.

These are a canny couple jinvta, a few days after Madeleine disappeared Gerry went to London and stopped off at Leicester to collect something of Madeleines with her DNA, he came back with one pillowcase which could have come form Amelie or Seans' bed. There must have been lots of other articles in Maddies room which could also have been taken.

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Post  jeanmonroe on Mon 13 Jan - 2:59

"These are a canny couple jinvta, a few days after Madeleine disappeared Gerry went to London and stopped off at Leicester to collect "the LAST photo"!

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Re: Psychologist wants to reopen the case ...2009

Post  Panda on Mon 13 Jan - 3:09

jeanmonroe wrote:"These are a canny couple jinvta, a few days after Madeleine disappeared Gerry went to London and stopped off at Leicester to collect "the LAST photo"!

That was probably on his to do list as well jeanmonroe. As Doctors, wouldn't you think they would recognise the importance of isolating Madeleine's DNA??? Kate used the Industrial washing machines in the Ocean Club a couple of days after madeleine disappeared, I suspect it was to wash all Madeleine's clothes.

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Re: Psychologist wants to reopen the case ...2009

Post  widowan on Mon 13 Jan - 21:05

What on earth for?

If they find a cadaver, they can pin it to MM by using dna from inside the bones and then match to the parents, so they aren't preventing a dead body - or a live child from a cheek swab - from being identified.

To wash the things she had on when and if she died would be to get rid of the cadaver scent.

But why wash ALL her clothes? Why would they want to prevent the police from having her dna profile? So that if her dna was uncovered in the car trunk it could not be identified as hers? But surely it still could, if it wasn't contaminated with all kind of other garbage and leaky nappies and fish blood etc.

I wish that PJ had asked to take the clothing she had on earlier in the day, still dirty, to get her skin cells from the pants, with a toothbrush being shared between the kids ( I will never believe that).

I don't understand why they would not want MM's dna identified, surely from day one (May 3 or whenever) they did not know they'd be moving a leaky body in a car trunk - what would be the reason to obfuscate the dna?

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