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Mirror - Madeleine's Parents are Accused of Child Neglect

Post  quickfingers on Mon 13 Jan - 23:18

On the Sky newspaper review the Mirror has this on the top of the front page!  I presume it relates to the case in Wales. Worked out how to add the photo now I hope!

 

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Re: Mirror - Madeleine's Parents are Accused of Child Neglect

Post  Lioned on Mon 13 Jan - 23:27

How very unhelpful.Another one for Carter Ruck if theres any money left.

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Post  interested on Mon 13 Jan - 23:33

The article relates to the case in Wales. See "South Wales Evening Post" article entitled, "Madeleine McCann case used as reason not to jail over-the-limit crash mum who'd left five year old home alone".

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Post  quickfingers on Mon 13 Jan - 23:35

interested wrote:The article relates to the case in Wales.  See "South Wales Evening Post" article entitled, "Madeleine McCann case used as reason not to jail over-the-limit crash mum who'd left five year old home alone".

I presumed it did but I've never seen it written quite as straight-forward as that before!

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Re: Mirror - Madeleine's Parents are Accused of Child Neglect

Post  widowan on Mon 13 Jan - 23:41

It was pretty cut and dried. That headline should have been in a paper in May 2007.

This was child neglect; you cannot argue that their children were being properly cared for or that she wasn't harmed due to neglect.

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Post  interested on Mon 13 Jan - 23:54

How many other parents will be exonerated because they were ONLY doing a 'McCann'??

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Post  Guest on Tue 14 Jan - 0:24

Now just been mentioned on the midnight news on local radio!

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Post  Lioned on Tue 14 Jan - 0:42

You got to feel for the twins now.

What a black hole to hell the mccanns dug for themselves when they decided to go party with their mates and put their selfish interests first rather than apply even the minimum amount of parental responsibilities that even an ignorant human being would be aware of.
Not only did they loose the life of one child they have inevitably ruined the lives of the remaining two.

Even if they evade justice they will always walk in the shadow of the grim reaper.

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Post  jeanmonroe on Tue 14 Jan - 1:30

NO McCann NEGLECT = NO 'ABDUCTION'

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Post  jinvta on Tue 14 Jan - 2:41

That headline is hilarious but so true! The McCann case was not only simple neglect, but neglect leading to harm which carries a much longer sentence. At least this other woman did not lose a child due to her neglect! Another difference between the two cases is at least this woman was remorseful for what she had done.
 
I have always wondered when people would start pulling the McCann defense. Well, that is finally happening. Good on the McCanns for never, ever admitting culpability and never warning other parents to never, ever leave young children alone. All the advice they can give is to quickly set up a fund and hire the best defense lawyers.
 
Note to Clarry: Just because someone has not been prosecuted for neglect and has evaded justice for their crime for more than six years, does not mean that the neglect did not happen. Get off your high horse and stop claiming that the McCanns are entirely innocent.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 14 Jan - 6:33

Will we now have a response from "a source," defending the McCanns by telling us, at last, who it was who said that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting?

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Post  weissnicht on Tue 14 Jan - 6:56

jeanmonroe wrote:NO McCann NEGLECT = NO 'ABDUCTION'

I think it was:
Neglect AND No abduction.
Both, plain and simple. Just because the neglect gave the invisible abductor 5 minutes, doesn't mean neglect didn't happen. But yes, I agree, mccanns are using it for their defence. (to give the abductor a change) For them: Minor crime.

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Post  jassi on Tue 14 Jan - 8:35

jeanmonroe wrote:NO McCann NEGLECT = NO 'ABDUCTION'

Yes. That's why, right from the beginning, we've had the stories of inadequate checking (all within the bounds of responsible parenting), which allows a window of opportunity for abduction.
If probed, the alternative to abduction could turn out to be far worse.

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Re: Mirror - Madeleine's Parents are Accused of Child Neglect

Post  widowan on Tue 14 Jan - 13:50

The horror show of the "abduction" complete with sighting (of innocent tourist, or no one) gave them enough press momentum to avoid being done for neglect - the poor parents have suffered enough, surely we must focus on finding who took her, etc.

Had there been an abduction and the return of a damaged child (or the finding of a body) I wonder if they would have faced more scrutiny than they did on the neglect issue.

They stuck to MM not being harmed, no proof of it, as if being snatched away as a 3 year old isn't harmful. PJ wanted more than neglect - they wouldn't be seen in a good light in Portugal prosecuting parents who had suffered so much although any parent who leaves the house to go out drinking and has their child die in some way has also suffered - but not nearly as much as the child!

And now the gift continues to give as they provide a defense for other child neglectors.

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Post  widowan on Tue 14 Jan - 13:51

AnnaEsse wrote:Will we now have a response from "a source," defending the McCanns by telling us, at last, who it was who said that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting?

It was their defense lawyers if I recall correctly.

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Post  jinvta on Tue 14 Jan - 17:28

widowan wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:Will we now have a response from "a source," defending the McCanns by telling us, at last, who it was who said that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting?

It was their defense lawyers if I recall correctly.

I think that AnnaEsse meant who it was who told the McCanns that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting. We have never been told who this so-called expert was, and as we all know, official guidelines say to never, ever leave young children alone.

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Post  Guest on Tue 14 Jan - 17:30

Kate's book says it's somebody from International Family Law Group, who flew out immediately it all kicked off. However IFLG denied that anyone from there ever said it, IIRC.

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Post  tanszi on Tue 14 Jan - 17:46

well someone noticed the elephant in the room and pointed it out, clearly.

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Post  widowan on Tue 14 Jan - 19:26

Iris wrote:Kate's book says it's somebody from International Family Law Group, who flew out immediately it all kicked off.  However IFLG denied that anyone from there ever said it, IIRC.

That is how I remember it too - we have been assured that what we did was "well within the bounds of responsible parenting" - was it just within the bounds or WELL within them?

A virtual get out of jail free card for child neglectors everywhere, if IFLG group stated this.

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Post  Lioned on Tue 14 Jan - 19:39

Fact remains their behaviour wasn't good enough so maybe the boundaries should be reviewed before more kids get left at risk.

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Post  jinvta on Tue 14 Jan - 19:53

Lioned wrote:Fact remains their behaviour wasn't good enough so maybe the boundaries should be reviewed before more kids get left at risk.

And the fact remains that nobody has ever owned up to making this statement. Further, this idiotic and ridiculous statement would never, ever hold up in court.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 14 Jan - 20:47

jinvta wrote:
widowan wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:Will we now have a response from "a source," defending the McCanns by telling us, at last, who it was who said that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting?

It was their defense lawyers if I recall correctly.

I think that AnnaEsse meant who it was who told the McCanns that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting. We have never been told who this so-called expert was, and as we all know, official guidelines say to never, ever leave young children alone.

Thanks jinvta. That was what I meant. They did say that some professional or other had reassured them.

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Post  kitti on Wed 15 Jan - 7:40

I will always believe that Madeleine was the only child left alone in the McCann apt....the only child left alone amongst the rest off the children.

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