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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  chrissie on Fri 17 Jan - 12:27

I don't have a good feeling about this especially as he was away from nursery. Does anyone know how old the other children are?

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 17 Jan - 12:29

I've only heard from other posters - not actually seen a report myself - that the oldest is 8 and the youngest is a baby so I'll guess that the other child is around 5 or 6.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  chrissie on Fri 17 Jan - 12:35

Thanks NBY. Wonder if the eight year old will be able to tell anything.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  almostgothic on Fri 17 Jan - 12:42

Don't know how significant these tweets are, but ...

Jane Chilton ‏@JaneChiltonSky 1h
Correction 6 officers counted entering flat. #MikaeelKular #MissingBoy

Jane Chilton ‏@JaneChiltonSky 53m
Four plain clothed officers now left the family flat & talking to another plain clothed officer outside. #MissingBoy #MikaeelKular

Jane Chilton ‏@JaneChiltonSky 52m
Two plain clothed officers still inside. Door now closed so looks like they are staying at flat. #MikaeelKular #MissingBoy

Jane Chilton ‏@JaneChiltonSky 49m
Senior investigating officer just entered the family home. Activity intensifies at flat. #MissingBoy #MikaeelKular

Jane Chilton ‏@JaneChiltonSky 23m
Police have just sealed off two wheelie bin areas further away from the Drylaw family flat. #MissingBoy #MikaeelKular

Rebecca Gray ‏@Rebecca__Gray 8m
#MikaeelKular: Police expected to hold news conference in next hour or so.
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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  cass on Fri 17 Jan - 12:47

have they sent in the dogs yet any reports ? they messed around in the tia sharp case and would imagine lessons can be learned from this - out buildings and all flats around his home too

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 17 Jan - 13:08

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scotland/top-stories/mikaeel-kular-hundreds-turn-out-to-help-search-1-3270466

The ages of the other children according to this report - as at the end of 2013 - are 9, 7 and 5.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  wjk on Fri 17 Jan - 13:08

Brunty saying the police won't say when he was last seen by any independent person but was not in nursery on Wednesday due to a cold.
Very worrying!

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  wjk on Fri 17 Jan - 13:10

Not Born Yesterday wrote:http://www.scotsman.com/news/scotland/top-stories/mikaeel-kular-hundreds-turn-out-to-help-search-1-3270466

The ages of the other children according to this report - as at the end of 2013 - are 9, 7 and 5.
Thanks NBY.
I had heard that he and his twin were the youngest at 3yrs old.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  wjk on Fri 17 Jan - 13:37

ITV News saying a potential sighting yesterday morning at 8.30am of a boy walking along a road on his own.
Police checking CCTV to see if it is Mikaeel.
Lets hope it is.á

ETA Sky news now saying the same as above.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  margaret on Fri 17 Jan - 13:51

I don't know if it's because of Madeleine, Tia and Shannon's cases but everyone is saying this story doesn't add up. It makes you cynical but l hope to be wrong of course.

Sky said the sighting in the park of a little boy yesterday at 8.30am is of a child at the edge of the cameras shot, at that time could it be possible it was a mum walking her children to school?

Hope mikaeel is found today, it's so cold.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  fuzeta on Fri 17 Jan - 14:03

It must be a very large apartment if the little boy could sleep alone. With four other children and the Mother I don't know how they managed it.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  widowan on Fri 17 Jan - 14:11

that sounds like BS. The child slept alone story sounds like something she'd tell her other kids so they wouldn't wonder where he was. His "cold" that kept him out of nursery and then walking out alone in the middle of the night just does not ring true.

I hope I am wrong but I think he's been "missing" since Wednesday or even Tuesday night. If mum is lying, they will likely find some evidence in the flat.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  Guest on Fri 17 Jan - 14:24

There is now a witness sighting of a child at West Pilton Gardens at around 8:30 am, an hour after he went missing, and also CCTV. That would be about a mile from his home I think. There is a big park there, maybe he was heading for there? BUT he would have had to cross Pennywell Road by himself, which is a very busy main road and right in the middle of the rush hour - surely someone in a car would have spotted him?

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Post  fuzeta on Fri 17 Jan - 14:28

Iris wrote:There is now a witness sighting of a child at West Pilton Gardens at around 8:30 am, an hour after he went missing, and also CCTV. áThat would be about a mile from his home I think. áThere is a big park there, maybe he was heading for there? áBUT he would have had to cross Pennywell Road by himself, which is a very busy main road and right in the middle of the rush hour - surely someone in a car would have spotted him? á

Hello Iris, I was just thinking, a mile is a long way for a three year old to walk!

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  Guest on Fri 17 Jan - 14:32

Fuzzy, there are football fields there and a wee swing park with a sand pit. It's probably somewhere he went a lot with his siblings and mum. Then there are allotments quite close by too which would be an attraction for a child, and then a huge public park. Loads of places for a wee boy to get lost. I'm assuming the allotment holders are all checking their sheds and greenhouses.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  dazedandconfused on Fri 17 Jan - 14:36

I really don't know what to think. If he did wander off, there's little hope that he's OK in this cold weather, but why has no one seen him? The sleeping on his own is worrying. I'm sure the McCann case has made us all think the worst in most cases, but I'm hanging on to the hope that a family member has taken him and he's warm and safe somewhere. Please let it be that and nothing worse.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  cass on Fri 17 Jan - 14:40

dazed i feel bad for the feelings i have at the min - but how many have we had since the mcanns ? i really hope i am wrong but it doesnt add up -maybe the mum went out that night and left him with his brothers and sisters and he went looking for her or something

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  midnight on Fri 17 Jan - 15:12

Listening to the latest reports of a possible sighting - it beggars belief that anyone could see a child of such a young age on its own at 8.30 in the morning and not bother to check whether it is in the care of an adult or not - I know I would!

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  chrissie on Fri 17 Jan - 15:17

midnight wrote:Listening to the latest reports of a possible sighting - it beggars belief that anyone could see a child of such a young age on its own at 8.30 in the morning and not bother to check whether it is in the care of an adult or not - I know I would!

Same here!!

I don't think the sighting can be him:

martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 1m

#missing Potential sighting/CCTV of boy matching Mikaeel shows him wearing hat or cap. Police say Mikaeel doesn't like wearing a hat.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  Guest on Fri 17 Jan - 16:09

So who is the wee kid running round Inverleith by himself at 8:30 in the morning then???? Stranger and stranger!

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  jassi on Fri 17 Jan - 16:15

Does it say how old this child is judged to be? Could be just someone going to school.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  comperedna on Fri 17 Jan - 17:24

Hi Jassi

I agree, the sighting could be some child running to school. He could be a short-for-his age five year old. The people who reported him running on his own were in cars, and so would have seen him briefly on the drive past, maybe on a school run themselves, and only thought about its being possibly him afterwards. Also, the child's mum could have been following fairly closely behind, with a younger child in a push chair. 'You can run up to the corner, but then you must wait for me to cross the road'... if he was that kind of reliable child. Me, I would prefer not to risk it... My number one would have been fine to do that, but my number two would have been too mischievous. Those who reported the child they saw were right to do so. It is possible it could have been the missing boy... I suppose.

I don't really know much about this case, unlike another one I can think of, so I realise that it is not wise to comment on it. I only know what anyone who watches tele knows... His mother said he didn't like hats, and the sighted child was wearing one, and no hats were missing from the flat. Yeah, someone could have taken him, and given a hat to him as a present, but that is fruitless speculation.

As a pure guess ... I think it is a case of the police quite properly 'managing the flow of information'... telling the public only the things that might help their search... ie what he looks like, what he was wearing, where they want help to re-check over ground already covered etc. These police are better organised than those dealing with the April Jones case: I guess they learned from it, and they are stressing that people should go out properly dressed and equipped for bad weather. Let us hope it has a better outcome than the April Jones case. Someone, sure as hell, knows what happened.

The police tell us that they are working 'on his mothers say so' (!) of what happened and when. They must be working on all the other possibilities as well, or they should be. IMHO kids of that age do not dress themselves and take off in the dark and the cold late at night on their own... Unless perhaps he was terrified of something or someone. If he went off on his own and crouched and hid in some outhouse, I believe he would likely have succumbed to hypothermia by now, poor child, esp if he was wet. We have already been told that outer door to the flats was too heavy for a child to open on his own though, and they will have dusted it for his fingerprints by now. Either something happened to him in that appartment complex or, as is also quite possible, he went missing in the daytime done up in his normal outdoor gear. He had been off nursery school for sometime with a cold... which may or may not be true.

The people to quiz ... very carefully, and by someone fully trained for the job.... would be his brothers and sisters. Who shared a room with him? Five kids all under ten and a lone parent living with them, and the father having practically no contact since birth... Surely the children had to be sharing bedrooms. What about his twin sister? In my experience, my twin grandchildren usually each know exactly where the other one is and what he/she is doing. Ask her what she knows about his disappearance. A lot of reports speak of Mikeeal as a toddler. Toddlers are one year olds, or at most a few rather physically immature two year olds. True not all three year olds are extremely articulate, but most of them can give a good account of themselves, and what has happened, and what they saw. What they are NOT at all good at is dates, and times... yesterday... on Thursday, etc... The nine year old should be well up for that, however.

I have not been online since well before it happened and I have deliberately not read all the threads. I will now glean all the wit and wisdom of my fellow posters. Again, it is very sad that this is happened, whoever is at the bottom of it... Fingers crossed.

I wonder what the several suited CID gentlemen (not the white-clad forensics people) with computer sized black bags went to the flat to do...

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  widowan on Fri 17 Jan - 17:27

That is what I thought. I know a 3 year old when I see one, and while I would not think twice of an 8 year old walking at 8 30 AM presuming he'd be on his way to school, I might phone it in anyhow thinking, maybe I'm wrong about how big this child was, maybe that was a big 3 year old or maybe this kid is 5 or - better to be safe than sorry.

There is no way in HELL I would see a child below school age, in my neighborhood or anywhere else, wandering alone up the street and not take an interest as you just do not see that. You know yourself if it is odd. I know the kids in my neighborhood and those who walk through it and a 2 foot tall child is not going to walk alone past my house without me stopping him - a stray DOG doesn't go by without me trying to call to it and find its owner, as we have leash laws here and a dog on its own is probably lost and needs to get back home.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  widowan on Fri 17 Jan - 17:33

I've always been nosy like this but my eyes have been opened in the latest years about what can happen to kids who aren't accounted for - I told my own to run to the nearest house or find a mom or grandma looking person if they get separated, and I hoped to God if they ever did that that person would be a good person which 99% of us are, who would help.

I told my kids when very young if we got separated (in the mall etc) to find a granny or woman with kids as I didn't expect them to go search out a policeman and a lot can happen in crowded places (Jamie Bulgar) - the idea of one getting out in the morning without me noticing and wandering down the street never occurred to me but I know it does happen.

Very sad case in Canada of a toddler in a diaper and t shirt wandering out from her drunken father's house trying to find her mom a few years back. Two sisters in fact. I don't recall what happened to them but I remember it was bad.

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Re: Missing 3 Year Old boy Edinburgh

Post  almostgothic on Fri 17 Jan - 17:38

James Matthews ‏@jamesmatthewsky 9m
Police: #missing #MikaeelKular hasn't been at nursery since Xmas break. "He's had a cold". @SkyNews


Jeez, this just gets worse the more we find out ......

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