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Post  weissnicht on Thu 30 Jan - 13:40

duncanmac wrote:
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duncanmac wrote:Manuel Catarino to SY:
" have you questioned DP ? "

SY :
" Why should we, the PJ didnt feel the need to"
And all of it has Nothing to do with the fact that LP delayed Gaspar statement 6 months? Or what?

You have failed to note, that after holding onto the statements for 6 months, they were then passed to Mr Rebello in PT. This is the same country that is asking what we are doing about it, when they did nothing themselves
I have read the rogatory interviews...painstaking long process to get permitted by UK...you seriously think they would have supporter PJ with further questioning. I don't. (and what a **** work LP did with the questioning..ludicrous) It would have been waste of time, money to try to get UK to co-operate.

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Post  duncanmac on Thu 30 Jan - 13:44

My understanding was that the questions in the Roggies were set by PJ.
So the poor quality of the questions lies fairly and squarely at their feet.

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Post  weissnicht on Thu 30 Jan - 13:48

duncanmac wrote:My understanding was that the questions in the Roggies were set by PJ.
So the poor quality of the questions lies fairly and squarely at their feet.
LP didn't get any prober answers...how is that PJs fault.   

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Post  duncanmac on Thu 30 Jan - 13:56

We are taliking about a missing child here, you dont leave until you get the answers you came for.
Mr Rebello left to return to Portugal before JTs interview, which is a disgrace.

I repeat, that Rebello was in receipt of the Gaspars statements whilst in the same Leicester Police station as DP and failed to ask a single question about them.
And now PT are asking what are SY doing about Gaspars statements.

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Post  jassi on Thu 30 Jan - 14:09

duncanmac wrote:We are taliking about a missing child here, you dont leave until you get the answers you came for.
Mr Rebello left to return to Portugal before JTs interview, which is a disgrace.

I repeat, that Rebello was in receipt of the Gaspars statements whilst in the same Leicester Police station as DP and failed to ask a single question about them.
And now PT are asking what are SY doing about Gaspars statements.

I believe that is the system. Questions have to submitted in writing in advance and only the LP could ask the questions.

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Post  weissnicht on Thu 30 Jan - 14:18

jassi wrote:
duncanmac wrote:We are taliking about a missing child here, you dont leave until you get the answers you came for.
Mr Rebello left to return to Portugal before JTs interview, which is a disgrace.

I repeat, that Rebello was in receipt of the Gaspars statements whilst in the same Leicester Police station as DP and failed to ask a single question about them.
And now PT are asking what are SY doing about Gaspars statements.

I believe that is the system. Questions have to submitted in writing in advance and only the LP could ask the questions.
Yes, correct.

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Post  Guest on Thu 30 Jan - 14:25

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duncanmac wrote:Manuel Catarino to SY:
" have you questioned DP ? "

SY :
" Why should we, the PJ didnt feel the need to"

So you're saying the UK police shouldn't be at all concerned regarding one of our NHS doctor's that might be a raging paedophile?
just the one?

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Post  Karen on Thu 30 Jan - 14:26

cass wrote:anna its where this story has come from and why ? i think something is going on and hope the truth becomes known - but how the hell can they just point the finger at 1 man in the group god knows-- just looked in on jills site and think a thread re dp has been whooshed can someone look and remember from earlier and also no posts re this

Its breaking News on their website : http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/opiniao/ja-ouviram-o-payne

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Post  kitti on Thu 30 Jan - 14:40

This is the actual article....it doesn't state he is a suspect, it states that SY neednt off bothered going to the Algarve to find a suspect when they have one off their own...DP.


The police have a suspect alive in England: David Payne, one of the McCanns' friends on the holiday

by Manuel Catarino [Correio da Manhã editor-in-chief]

The Attorney General's Office, sensitive to the pressures exerted by London, opened the the judicial process into the disappearance of Maddie. The investigation ended in a blind alley and the case, naturally shelved in the summer of 2008, awaited any relevant data that could shed light on the mystery.

The PJ had no other alternative than to create a 'special group' to analyse the process which rested in a filing cabinet: something could have escaped the early investigators. The PJ finds a suspect for the abduction of the girl - a suspect that is already dead.

The new thesis is highly desirable: removes the suspicions from the McCann couple and throws the process, again, in the tranquillity of the filing cabinet. But the British police does not want a dead suspect. They prefer a live one. British inspectors are in the Algarve - and they insist on questioning three suspects.

If the English allow me the suggestion, you did not have to bother with the nuisance of the trip.

You have an alive suspect in England: David Payne, one of the McCanns' friends on the holiday, reported for indecent behaviour with children and he was never investigated.

in Correio da Manhã, January 30, 2014

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Post  tanszi on Thu 30 Jan - 14:43

I agree totally with what Cass is saying. the UK police chose to hold back what could have been very important evidence, of which I agree I think with Freja, why wait till a child goes missing to report something so awful. yes she could have said she had concerns and no direct evidence but it would have been noted by the police then - we hope, although with whats come out with the Saville and other child abuse cases, I have serious doubts.

absolutely nothing wrong in SY or PJ raising the questions now!

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Post  pennylane on Thu 30 Jan - 15:04

Iris wrote:
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duncanmac wrote:Manuel Catarino to SY:
" have you questioned DP ? "

SY :
" Why should we, the PJ didnt feel the need to"

So you're saying the UK police shouldn't be at all concerned regarding one of our NHS doctor's that might be a raging paedophile?
just the one?

I wasn't thinking 'just the one' when I wrote my reply, but decided to stick with what K Gaspar reported.  Naturally this alerts us to another significant red flag sitting at that dinner table!

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Post  Claudia79 on Thu 30 Jan - 15:17

That text is simply the opinion of the writer. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Post  Guest on Thu 30 Jan - 15:29

pennylane wrote:
Iris wrote:
pennylane wrote:
duncanmac wrote:Manuel Catarino to SY:
" have you questioned DP ? "

SY :
" Why should we, the PJ didnt feel the need to"

So you're saying the UK police shouldn't be at all concerned regarding one of our NHS doctor's that might be a raging paedophile?
just the one?

I wasn't thinking 'just the one' when I wrote my reply, but decided to stick with what K Gaspar reported.  Naturally this alerts us to another significant red flag sitting at that dinner table!

The CDM has finally alerted to (at least) the Portuguese public about the elephant in the room.
How soon before they bring up Mr Gerry's CATs number?

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Post  pennylane on Thu 30 Jan - 15:39

Iris wrote:
pennylane wrote:
Iris wrote:
pennylane wrote:
duncanmac wrote:Manuel Catarino to SY:
" have you questioned DP ? "

SY :
" Why should we, the PJ didnt feel the need to"

So you're saying the UK police shouldn't be at all concerned regarding one of our NHS doctor's that might be a raging paedophile?
just the one?

I wasn't thinking 'just the one' when I wrote my reply, but decided to stick with what K Gaspar reported.  Naturally this alerts us to another significant red flag sitting at that dinner table!

The CDM has finally alerted to (at least) the Portuguese public about the elephant in the room.
How soon before they bring up Mr Gerry's CATs number?

Yeh... come on with it!!!

An acutely embarrassing article just as "Britain's finest" are over there looking for burglars.

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Post  interested on Thu 30 Jan - 16:44

The writer suggests "an alive suspect in England: David Payne" and "he was never investigated". It's about time SY "investigate" the alive suspects in England instead of dead suspects and burglars McCann "sources" want the world to focus on.

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Post  pennylane on Thu 30 Jan - 17:51

interested wrote:The writer suggests "an alive suspect in England:  David Payne" and "he was never investigated".  It's about time SY "investigate" the alive suspects in England instead of dead suspects and burglars McCann "sources" want the world to focus on.

He may be alive, but unfortunately DCI Redwood and Team are brain dead.

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Post  jejune on Thu 30 Jan - 18:39

All the money thrown at this investigation has never offered up any evidence of abduction by a stranger (aside from the McCann argument that, 'she's not here, so she must have been abducted').  I can't believe that the multi-million pound SY investigation only leads to detectives flying out to the Algarve in winter to interview three petty burglars who were in the area that Madeleine disappeared from.  Nice work, if you can get it.

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Post  kitti on Thu 30 Jan - 20:25

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1551684_587113768046806_1497942428_n.jpg

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Post  wjk on Thu 30 Jan - 20:36

kitti wrote:https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1551684_587113768046806_1497942428_n.jpg

WOW!

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Post  kitti on Thu 30 Jan - 20:41

Have you noticed, all the efits fit either Payne, O'Brian or Gerry McCann.


The person who closed the gate very quietly and sneaked away from 5a seen by the people sitting on the balcony one afternoon , fits Oldfield.

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Post  pennylane on Thu 30 Jan - 20:52

wjk wrote:
kitti wrote:https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1551684_587113768046806_1497942428_n.jpg

WOW!

double WOW!

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Post  pennylane on Thu 30 Jan - 21:02

kitti wrote:Have you noticed, all the efits fit either Payne, O'Brian or Gerry McCann.


The person who closed the gate very quietly and sneaked away from 5a seen by the people sitting on the balcony one afternoon , fits Oldfield.

Didn't she say he was a very blonde, Scandinavian type?

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Post  kitti on Thu 30 Jan - 21:11

As soon as I read it I thought off oldfield

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Post  interested on Thu 30 Jan - 21:15

David Payne: "We have a pact".

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Post  pennylane on Thu 30 Jan - 21:35

kitti wrote:As  soon as I read it I  thought off oldfield

I think you may have something there, kitti!  The only thing that bothers me is she didn't mention height at all, and I'm not sure you would miss that from a description.... even looking down from a balcony it must be obvious?

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