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Post  interested on Fri 21 Mar - 16:54

The Portugal Resident (on line) has an article entitled "Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions". It is available at portugalresident.com/madeleine-late

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Post  frencheuropean on Fri 21 Mar - 19:08

http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-latest-raising-yet-more-questions

» Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions



Posted by portugalpress on March 21, 2014


Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions

As news of the Met’s latest Madeleine theories sweeps the world, here in Portugal some very different revelations - equally chilling in their content - received almost zero publicity.

An interview with ‘infamous’ Madeleine cop, Gonçalo Amaral, described how vital leads in the case appear to have been deliberately dropped.

Far from expounding on the possibility of a sexual predator stalking the bedrooms of young white girls on holiday from England, Amaral talked of high-level political involvement which left DNA samples untested and key witnesses overlooked.

It could have been dismissed as another conspiracy-theorists’ stunt apart from the fact that the programme was presented by well-known news anchor Júlio Magalhães - former director of information at TVI and current director-general of Porto Canal - with questions fielded by respected political thinker and one-time PSD leader and mayor, Luís Filipe Menezes.

Menezes opened the interview saying that after almost seven years of media frenzy, perhaps it was time to ask whether the PJ was qualified to investigate a crime of this complexity. “Doubts arise as to whether our police, our State, is protected against national and international political influences that interfere in the day-to-day professional thinking of police and other criminal investigators,” he said.

His invitation to Gonçalo Amaral - awaiting the result of a trial for defamation brought by Kate and Gerry McCann, who allege his theories that Madeleine is dead hampered the search for their daughter - was a chance to see whether the former investigator was “a Portuguese version of Dirty Harry, or a politically-correct policeman”.

Amaral’s answers came thick and fast. The day he left the Madeleine investigation was “the day Gordon Brown (then British prime minister) spoke with José Socrátes (then Portuguese prime minister).”

At the time, Amaral told Menezes, Portuguese police were keen to interview the Irish family who had identified Gerry McCann as the man they thought they had seen carrying a child down towards the beach on the night Madeleine went missing.
This plan was quickly scuppered. Amaral’s substitute on the case “was told that it was not relevant to bring the Irish (family) to Portugal,” he told Menezes. “And that was that. The Irish family was never heard.”

As to DNA evidence that was discovered in the McCanns’ rental car, Amaral was adamant that this could have been more thoroughly tested. While initial findings on blood were deemed inconclusive, Amaral explains hair samples were simply not followed up as British lab technicians claimed it was impossible to test hair samples without roots.

“It is possible, and even at the time it was possible!” Amaral insisted.

“These hair samples are in Portugal! They were returned in Portugal and they are in the files. It’s simple! All the public ministry has to do is take the hairs and send them to a European laboratory, or anywhere where these kinds of exams are done without roots.”

Menezes, who had described himself at the outset as “never neutral in these matters” but seeking to be impartial, quizzed Amaral on one of the myriad “strange twists” in the early stages of the case.

Referring to the hiring of Clarence Mitchell as the McCanns’ press 'face', he said: “How is it comprehensible that the spokesman for the English Prime Minister had left, in 24 hours, Tony Blair to be the McCann family’s spokesman? Isn’t that strange?”

“Of course,” replies Amaral. “It is another mystery within the mystery, and maybe if we can understand this little mystery we will be able to understand what lies behind, not the disappearance, not the death of the child, but what lies behind the protection… Why the protection…”

Full of questions and inconvenient allegations, it was an interview that aimed to illustrated the depth and scope of the “complexities” Luís Filipe Menezes had suggested might just be too much for the PJ - or indeed any police force.

“Only when there is the political will on both sides” will the case be resolved, said Amaral, concluding, “when investigations are politically correct, they lead nowhere.”

Meantime in UK, Operation Grange has revealed that it is currently receiving hundreds of calls in response to the latest announcement that a bare-chested sexual predator abused five little white girls - all older than Madeleine – while they were sleeping in their beds in holiday homes along the Algarve between 2004 and 2006.

The Met described 12 separate crimes leading up to 2010, only four of them involving the sexual abuse of girls aged 7-10.

Whether the other eight crimes involved another type of sexual abuse has not been divulged.

According to Correio da Manhã newspaper, it was the evidence of this predator that led Portuguese investigators to ask the public ministry to reopen the Madeleine case in October last year.

Characteristically tight-lipped about the course of their investigations, the PJ nonetheless have been known to feed information to the Portuguese and foreign press.

On Wednesday (March 19), a spokesman agreed with the Met’s Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood that the new suspect is considered to be a key to resolving the long-running mystery, just over a month away from reaching its seventh anniversary.

By NATASHA DONN





























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Post  cherry1 on Fri 21 Mar - 20:12

Good article getting in the Smith sighting, Brown's involvement, Political interference, questions about the British lab and testing, and involvement of Mitchell   

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Post  tanszi on Fri 21 Mar - 22:02

well done Natasha Donn

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Re: Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions - Portugal Press

Post  Panda on Sat 22 Mar - 12:41

Thanks frencheuropean


I don't like this bit;-



Characteristically tight-lipped about the course of their investigations, the PJ nonetheless have been known to feed information to the Portuguese and foreign press.

On Wednesday (March 19), a spokesman agreed with the Met’s Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood that the new suspect is considered to be a key to resolving the long-running mystery, just over a month away from reaching its seventh anniversary.


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Re: Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions - Portugal Press

Post  jassi on Sat 22 Mar - 13:08

Panda wrote:Thanks frencheuropean


I don't like this bit;-



Characteristically tight-lipped about the course of their investigations, the PJ nonetheless have been known to feed information to the Portuguese and foreign press.

On Wednesday (March 19), a spokesman agreed with the Met’s Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood that the new suspect is considered to be a key to resolving the long-running mystery, just over a month away from reaching its seventh anniversary.


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Weren't the three burglars also 'key' ? - though they seem to be of little interest just now   

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Re: Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions - Portugal Press

Post  Guest on Sat 22 Mar - 13:10

last may at the resort next door in sharm, a small child drowned in a pool. three days later her parents were sat in a TV studio in london blaming everyone for what happened. that they asked the child's 15 year old sister to watch over her while they went to buy drinks and snacks, that there were no lifeguards yada yada yada.  there was consular assistance given, an investigation opened, two lifeguards were arrested by the egyptian police and later released and that, as far as the U.K. media was concerned, was the end of the matter. why? because after sniffing around a bit they realised what we already knew the day after the tragedy. these parents ignored the pool rules and buggered off to the bar, which like the drinks and snacks they claimed they went to buy, was in fact free. echoes of the maccann case? pretty much the obvious exception being this story has an ending. the media, i guess, decided against going for the parents throats because hey, why appear vindictive? they screwed up bad and everyone knows they did so let it go.

no one is protecting the mccanns either now or then and they almost certainly don't have anything they can hold against the government either now nor then less they'd be dead already. a lot of noise by them and a couple silly politicians looking for a bandwagon aided by a few equally silly news editors and a missing kid is all that's going on here. the police forces of both countries have a pretty good idea what happened and so do both governments. they just can't prove it.

 

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Re: Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions - Portugal Press

Post  kathybelle on Sat 22 Mar - 13:24

frencheuropean wrote:http://portugalresident.com/madeleine-latest-raising-yet-more-questions

» Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions



Posted by portugalpress on March 21, 2014


Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions

As news of the Met’s latest Madeleine theories sweeps the world, here in Portugal some very different revelations - equally chilling in their content - received almost zero publicity.

An interview with ‘infamous’ Madeleine cop, Gonçalo Amaral, described how vital leads in the case appear to have been deliberately dropped.

Far from expounding on the possibility of a sexual predator stalking the bedrooms of young white girls on holiday from England, Amaral talked of high-level political involvement which left DNA samples untested and key witnesses overlooked.

It could have been dismissed as another conspiracy-theorists’ stunt apart from the fact that the programme was presented by well-known news anchor Júlio Magalhães - former director of information at TVI and current director-general of Porto Canal - with questions fielded by respected political thinker and one-time PSD leader and mayor, Luís Filipe Menezes.

Menezes opened the interview saying that after almost seven years of media frenzy, perhaps it was time to ask whether the PJ was qualified to investigate a crime of this complexity. “Doubts arise as to whether our police, our State, is protected against national and international political influences that interfere in the day-to-day professional thinking of police and other criminal investigators,” he said.

His invitation to Gonçalo Amaral - awaiting the result of a trial for defamation brought by Kate and Gerry McCann, who allege his theories that Madeleine is dead hampered the search for their daughter - was a chance to see whether the former investigator was “a Portuguese version of Dirty Harry, or a politically-correct policeman”.

Amaral’s answers came thick and fast. The day he left the Madeleine investigation was “the day Gordon Brown (then British prime minister) spoke with José Socrátes (then Portuguese prime minister).”

At the time, Amaral told Menezes, Portuguese police were keen to interview the Irish family who had identified Gerry McCann as the man they thought they had seen carrying a child down towards the beach on the night Madeleine went missing.
This plan was quickly scuppered. Amaral’s substitute on the case “was told that it was not relevant to bring the Irish (family) to Portugal,” he told Menezes. “And that was that. The Irish family was never heard.”

As to DNA evidence that was discovered in the McCanns’ rental car, Amaral was adamant that this could have been more thoroughly tested. While initial findings on blood were deemed inconclusive, Amaral explains hair samples were simply not followed up as British lab technicians claimed it was impossible to test hair samples without roots.

“It is possible, and even at the time it was possible!” Amaral insisted.

“These hair samples are in Portugal! They were returned in Portugal and they are in the files. It’s simple! All the public ministry has to do is take the hairs and send them to a European laboratory, or anywhere where these kinds of exams are done without roots.”

Menezes, who had described himself at the outset as “never neutral in these matters” but seeking to be impartial, quizzed Amaral on one of the myriad “strange twists” in the early stages of the case.

Referring to the hiring of Clarence Mitchell as the McCanns’ press 'face', he said: “How is it comprehensible that the spokesman for the English Prime Minister had left, in 24 hours, Tony Blair to be the McCann family’s spokesman? Isn’t that strange?”

“Of course,” replies Amaral. “It is another mystery within the mystery, and maybe if we can understand this little mystery we will be able to understand what lies behind, not the disappearance, not the death of the child, but what lies behind the protection… Why the protection…”

Full of questions and inconvenient allegations, it was an interview that aimed to illustrated the depth and scope of the “complexities” Luís Filipe Menezes had suggested might just be too much for the PJ - or indeed any police force.

“Only when there is the political will on both sides” will the case be resolved, said Amaral, concluding, “when investigations are politically correct, they lead nowhere.”

Meantime in UK, Operation Grange has revealed that it is currently receiving hundreds of calls in response to the latest announcement that a bare-chested sexual predator abused five little white girls - all older than Madeleine – while they were sleeping in their beds in holiday homes along the Algarve between 2004 and 2006.

The Met described 12 separate crimes leading up to 2010, only four of them involving the sexual abuse of girls aged 7-10.

Whether the other eight crimes involved another type of sexual abuse has not been divulged.

According to Correio da Manhã newspaper, it was the evidence of this predator that led Portuguese investigators to ask the public ministry to reopen the Madeleine case in October last year.

Characteristically tight-lipped about the course of their investigations, the PJ nonetheless have been known to feed information to the Portuguese and foreign press.

On Wednesday (March 19), a spokesman agreed with the Met’s Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood that the new suspect is considered to be a key to resolving the long-running mystery, just over a month away from reaching its seventh anniversary.

By NATASHA DONN




























Thank you for the very interesting article, frencheuropean.

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Re: Madeleine latest: raising yet more questions - Portugal Press

Post  xtina on Sun 23 Mar - 13:04

different side today .....mayby trying to be unbiast

http://portugalresident.com/someone-knows-madeleine-mccann%E2%80%99s-abductor

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Post  Panda on Sun 23 Mar - 15:10

xtina wrote:different side today .....mayby trying to be unbiast

http://portugalresident.com/someone-knows-madeleine-mccann%E2%80%99s-abductor

Hi xtina, I'm trying to think who your Avatar reminds me of, give us a clue, it's either a TV Actress or Film Star.

I think it's a bit OTT that all these people would not report a pedophile .

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Post  tanszi on Sun 23 Mar - 17:21

my favourite detective from Cold Case.

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Post  T4two on Mon 24 Mar - 0:23

xtina wrote:different side today .....mayby trying to be unbiast

http://portugalresident.com/someone-knows-madeleine-mccann%E2%80%99s-abductor

Aha! The author of this little gem works for the NCMEC - remember GM jetting off to the USA shortly after claiming that his daughter had been abducted by a paedophile? If not, you can refresh your memory with a visit to mccannfiles:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id209.html

Next google NCMEC or Ernie Allen NCMEC and find a lot of interesting stuff about a mult-million dollar business model which is backed with government money and has made/is making a lot of people rich. Here is an interesting read... especially where it refers to the absolute lack of success in helping to solve child abduction by sexual predator cases.    

http://friedmarbles.com/html/ncmec.htm

Btw the infamous PACT charity run by Lady Meyer is right up there with the best of them - raking in the millions - most of which they pay to themselves in salaries and expenses. Sounds familiar?

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Post  Guest on Mon 24 Mar - 0:44

I believe Ernie Allen is wanted by the Greek government, to answer charges of fraud.

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Post  Panda on Mon 24 Mar - 8:47

Aoiffe Smith, Martin Smith’s young daughter, described the man as wearing trousers with buttons down the side. It is known that Gerry ’Buttons’ McCann did have such a pair of trousers which he wore whilst on holiday in Portugal.'


First time i have heard this?

Isn't l'azzeri a reporter for the Express? If so she usually writes rubbish and I think used to share articles with James Murray

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 24 Mar - 9:34

Antonella Lazzeri writes (if that's the appropriate word) for The Sun but she's been quiet lately.

Here's a link to a picture of Gerry in the trousers with buttons.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/K-G/gerry-mccann-parents-of-missing-child-madeleine-mccann-gerry-and-kate-mccann-june-16-2007-8D8nvt.jpg

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Post  Panda on Mon 24 Mar - 9:47

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Antonella Lazzeri writes (if that's the appropriate word) for The Sun but she's been quiet lately.

Here's a link to a picture of Gerry in the trousers with buttons.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/K-G/gerry-mccann-parents-of-missing-child-madeleine-mccann-gerry-and-kate-mccann-june-16-2007-8D8nvt.jpg

Morning NBY, that's right the Sun, thanks, still a crap reporter though LOl

How could anybody passing by in the dark pick out those buttons??? You would look at the child being carried , good sleuthing for finding it though  

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 24 Mar - 10:01

Panda, I'll let you into my secret for finding photos - but don't tell anyone else please!

Pamalam's site is an absolute goldmine for information. Here's the link to the photo gallery.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PHOTOGRAPHS.htm

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Post  Guest on Mon 24 Mar - 10:27

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Antonella Lazzeri writes (if that's the appropriate word) for The Sun but she's been quiet lately.

Here's a link to a picture of Gerry in the trousers with buttons.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/K-G/gerry-mccann-parents-of-missing-child-madeleine-mccann-gerry-and-kate-mccann-june-16-2007-8D8nvt.jpg

They're called "clamdiggers" and it's so you can turn the bottoms up to make 3/4 length trousers. Aoife was very young when she made the statement so she would be more likely to look at the lower half of an adult, also it's the kind of quirky thing a child would spot.

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Post  Panda on Mon 24 Mar - 10:42

Iris wrote:
Not Born Yesterday wrote:Antonella Lazzeri writes (if that's the appropriate word) for The Sun but she's been quiet lately.

Here's a link to a picture of Gerry in the trousers with buttons.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/K-G/gerry-mccann-parents-of-missing-child-madeleine-mccann-gerry-and-kate-mccann-june-16-2007-8D8nvt.jpg

They're called "clamdiggers" and it's so you can turn the bottoms up to make 3/4 length trousers.  Aoife was very young when she made the statement so she would be more likely to look at the lower half of an adult, also it's the kind of quirky thing a child would spot.


I thought Aoife was the wife??

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 24 Mar - 11:37

No, that was Mary.

Aoife was 12 at the time.

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Post  Panda on Mon 24 Mar - 11:43

Not Born Yesterday wrote:No, that was Mary.

Aoife was 12 at the time.

So she made a statement in Portugal and refused to make one in Ireland months later....at 12 yrs of age I don't blame her. In fact I am surprised she noticed the buttons on a dark night when a man holding a child passed taking about one minute.

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Post  tanszi on Mon 24 Mar - 12:21

I don't doubt that she saw what she saw.

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Post  pennylane on Mon 24 Mar - 14:18

tanszi wrote:I don't doubt that she saw what she saw.

Me either, tanszi, and I don't doubt it was Gerry McCann!

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Post  wjk on Mon 24 Mar - 17:10

I'm with you both, she saw those buttons!

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Post  Lioned on Mon 24 Mar - 17:19

So there are hair samples from the boot of the mccanns hire car in the Portuguese files.

That would just about clinch it !


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