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Re: More Twitter rumours or is it about to happen?

Post  kitti on Wed 30 Apr - 21:14

But the book Injunction INCLUDED Madeleine on the writs ..


Kate Marie Healey McCann,
Gerald Patrick McCann,
Madeleine Beth McCann,
Sean Michael McCann and
Amelie Eve McCann

Have filed an unspecified injunction against:

Goncalo de Sousa Amaral,
Guerra e Paz, Editores, SA
VC - Valentim de Carvalho - Filmes, Audiovisuais, SA and




THAT is wrong surely...

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Post  Guest on Wed 30 Apr - 21:17

Do we know for certain that it is the WOC issue that has delayed the trial? Could it be anything else, for example the hair samples that were being retested.

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Post  wjk on Wed 30 Apr - 21:22

kitti wrote:But the book Injunction INCLUDED Madeleine on the writs ..


Kate Marie Healey McCann,
Gerald Patrick McCann,
Madeleine Beth McCann,
Sean Michael McCann and
Amelie Eve McCann

Have filed an unspecified injunction against:

Goncalo de Sousa Amaral,
Guerra e Paz, Editores, SA
VC - Valentim de Carvalho - Filmes, Audiovisuais, SA and




THAT is wrong surely...
Yes, that is wrong, imo, she is not on the writ now, I am positive of that.
Although, I do remember Duarte saying, as she was going into the court, they were claiming for 5 of them or something similar. Anyone else remember that?

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Post  Panda on Wed 30 Apr - 21:23

Iris wrote:Do we know for certain that it is the WOC issue that has delayed the trial?   Could it be anything else,  for example the hair samples that were being retested.

I understood the samples were destroyed by the British forensics because "the Portugese never asked for their return". Not long after the FSS was sold to an American Company.

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Post  Guest on Wed 30 Apr - 21:26

There are hair samples currently being tested in a lab in Belgium, I have been told.

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Post  jeanmonroe on Wed 30 Apr - 21:38

kitti wrote:
Their lawyer Isabel Duarte is expected to set out the case - on behalf of Mrs McCann, her husband Gerry and their twins Sean and Amelie, now eight - at Lisbon's civil court..Madeleines name is not on it.

Isabel Duarte [at Palácio de Justiça, in Lisbon]: The expectations are that the trial is done as fast as possible... what is in question are the personality RIGHTS of Kate.. of Gerry.. OF MADELEINE.. of Sean and of.. ah.. Amelie, breached by the book that we are going to judge here. It's an action for compensation and, and, other decisions surrounding the book... And as lawyers use to say, I hope that justice is done. [smiles and laughs]

Journalist in situ: In that action for compensation exactly what does the McCann couple ask?

Isabel Duarte: They ASK for a compensation in money.

Journalist: How much?

Isabel Duarte: 250 thousand euros for EACH of THE PERSONS INVOLVED, THEY ARE FIVE.


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Post  weissnicht on Wed 30 Apr - 21:41

kitti wrote:
Their lawyer Isabel Duarte is expected to set out the case - on behalf of Mrs McCann, her husband Gerry and their twins Sean and Amelie, now eight - at Lisbon's civil court..Madeleines name is not on it.
It was there when they filed the for the 'libel', they removed it later. It was there, and she was ward of court at the time the court case started.

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Re: More Twitter rumours or is it about to happen?

Post  jeanmonroe on Wed 30 Apr - 21:46

weissnicht wrote:
kitti wrote:
Their lawyer Isabel Duarte is expected to set out the case - on behalf of Mrs McCann, her husband Gerry and their twins Sean and Amelie, now eight - at Lisbon's civil court..Madeleines name is not on it.
It was there when they filed the for the 'libel', they removed it later. It was there, and she was ward of court at the time the court case started.

Madeleine's name WAS 'involved' on 12.09.2013, the first actual day of libel 'case'
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Isabel Duarte outside the Palácio de Justiça, in Lisbon: (12/09/2013.)

Journalist in situ: In that action for compensation exactly what does the McCann couple ask?

Isabel Duarte: They ASK for a compensation in money.

Journalist: How much?

Isabel Duarte: 250 thousand euros for EACH of THE PERSONS INVOLVED, THEY ARE FIVE.


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Re: More Twitter rumours or is it about to happen?

Post  weissnicht on Wed 30 Apr - 21:49

First writ: 5 people incl Mddie suing Amaral
later Maddie was removed.


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Post  Panda on Wed 30 Apr - 22:01

Iris wrote:There are hair samples currently being tested in a lab in Belgium, I have been told.

I remember the Portugese forensics sent samples to Spain, but thought all the samples had either been tested or discarded. In any case i don't see how this is relevant to the case, to recap on the charges the McCanns made against Amaral

1. That his Book suggesting Madeleine died in 5a hindered the search for her.

2, That his book affected the health of the parents of Madeleine and the twins.

Considering the book is not published in English how could any of them read it to get upset by it????

Would the McCanns have to provide Medical evidence proving they suffered ?

The only thing I can think of is the date that Madeleine was made a Ward of Court, eg if it was July/August 2007 officially she cannot be presumed dead until July/ August 2014.....although i don't understand how this is relevant to the case.

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Post  Panda on Wed 30 Apr - 22:16

So Justice Hogg assumed the innocence of the McCanns , I still don't understand how this is relevant to the case against Amaral.

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Post  Lioned on Wed 30 Apr - 22:21

So he hasnt settled out of court then ?

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Re: More Twitter rumours or is it about to happen?

Post  Panda on Wed 30 Apr - 22:42

For starters, Isobel Duarte says £250,000 Euros each for 3 children and their parents, yet only £1 million was sequestered. I have never heard of parents being able to claim for such young children, the twins were too young to know what was really going on , how could it be said they suffered. ?? I am surprised the Judge is accepting it without Medical Evidence .

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Post  matthew on Wed 30 Apr - 23:50

Samples were returned back to Portugal

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Re: More Twitter rumours or is it about to happen?

Post  weissnicht on Thu 1 May - 7:56

Panda wrote:So Justice Hogg assumed the innocence of the McCanns , I still don't understand how this is relevant to the case against Amaral.
I think because mccanns are not Maddies legal guardians..
they probably have no right to add her name in a writ to sue Amaral, only with court order....
and because of the WoC status, they have no right to demand money in her name, as they are not guardians.
mccann gave up their rights when they made Maddie Ward of Court.

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Post  Panda on Thu 1 May - 8:31

weissnicht wrote:
Panda wrote:So Justice Hogg assumed the innocence of the McCanns , I still don't understand how this is relevant to the case against Amaral.
I think because mccanns are not Maddies legal guardians..
they probably have no right to add her name in a writ to sue Amaral, only with court order....
and because of the WoC status, they have no right to demand money in her name, as they are not guardians.
mccann gave up their rights when they made Maddie Ward of Court.

Morning weissnicht, yes , I realise that but since the 7th January was meant to be the closure , why wasn't the question of Madeleine's name being on the suit brought up before by the Defendent, Amaral. He knew when the EU 1 million was sequestered that it was for 4 people, as did the McCanns.

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Post  weissnicht on Thu 1 May - 9:11

Panda wrote:
weissnicht wrote:
Panda wrote:So Justice Hogg assumed the innocence of the McCanns , I still don't understand how this is relevant to the case against Amaral.
I think because mccanns are not Maddies legal guardians..
they probably have no right to add her name in a writ to sue Amaral, only with court order....
and because of the WoC status, they have no right to demand money in her name, as they are not guardians.
mccann gave up their rights when they made Maddie Ward of Court.

Morning weissnicht, yes , I realise that but since the 7th January was meant to be the closure , why wasn't the question of Madeleine's  name being on the suit  brought up before by the Defendent, Amaral. He knew when the EU 1 million was sequestered that it was for 4 people, as did the McCanns.
I don't know. Maybe the publisher, who is part of the lawsuit, didn't know about it.

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Re: More Twitter rumours or is it about to happen?

Post  Panda on Thu 1 May - 9:18

weissnicht wrote:
Panda wrote:
weissnicht wrote:
Panda wrote:So Justice Hogg assumed the innocence of the McCanns , I still don't understand how this is relevant to the case against Amaral.
I think because mccanns are not Maddies legal guardians..
they probably have no right to add her name in a writ to sue Amaral, only with court order....
and because of the WoC status, they have no right to demand money in her name, as they are not guardians.
mccann gave up their rights when they made Maddie Ward of Court.

Morning weissnicht, yes , I realise that but since the 7th January was meant to be the closure , why wasn't the question of Madeleine's  name being on the suit  brought up before by the Defendent, Amaral. He knew when the EU 1 million was sequestered that it was for 4 people, as did the McCanns.
I don't know. Maybe the publisher, who is part of the lawsuit, didn't know about it.

Has there ever been anything straightforward about this case????  

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Post  wjk on Thu 1 May - 12:07

Panda wrote:For starters, Isobel Duarte says £250,000 Euros each for 3 children and their parents, yet only £1 million was sequestered. I have never heard of parents being able to claim for such young children, the twins were too young to know what was really going on , how could it be said they suffered. ?? I am surprised the Judge is accepting it without Medical Evidence .
Accepted what? She hasn't made any decision as yet.

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Post  chrissie on Thu 1 May - 12:09

wjk wrote:
Panda wrote:For starters, Isobel Duarte says £250,000 Euros each for 3 children and their parents, yet only £1 million was sequestered. I have never heard of parents being able to claim for such young children, the twins were too young to know what was really going on , how could it be said they suffered. ?? I am surprised the Judge is accepting it without Medical Evidence .
Accepted what? She hasn't made any decision as yet.

Yes, the decision is still awaited.

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Post  welshy on Thu 1 May - 13:22

  well Kate has just said on sky news interview that kids handle these situations better than adults. The children are great and are not traumatised or upset in any way. Talking about the twins. I hope Mr amaral is watching these interviews .x

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Re: More Twitter rumours or is it about to happen?

Post  Panda on Thu 1 May - 13:26

wjk wrote:
Panda wrote:For starters, Isobel Duarte says £250,000 Euros each for 3 children and their parents, yet only £1 million was sequestered. I have never heard of parents being able to claim for such young children, the twins were too young to know what was really going on , how could it be said they suffered. ?? I am surprised the Judge is accepting it without Medical Evidence .
Accepted what? She hasn't made any decision as yet.

Hi wjk, so Duarte is talking out of turn. Wouldn't you think the Judge would have called for the Medical records then before the closing date of 7th January?

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Post  chrissie on Thu 1 May - 13:37

welshy wrote:  well Kate has just said on sky news interview that kids handle these situations better than adults. The children are great and are not traumatised or upset in any way. Talking about the twins. I hope Mr amaral is watching these interviews .x

Thanks welshy! Sounds like she's put her foot in it!

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Post  matthew on Thu 1 May - 13:49

chrissie wrote:
welshy wrote:  well Kate has just said on sky news interview that kids handle these situations better than adults. The children are great and are not traumatised or upset in any way. Talking about the twins. I hope Mr amaral is watching these interviews .x

Thanks welshy! Sounds like she's put her foot in it!

500K down already...now to whoosh all those happy photos

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Post  pennylane on Thu 1 May - 13:49

chrissie wrote:
welshy wrote:  well Kate has just said on sky news interview that kids handle these situations better than adults. The children are great and are not traumatised or upset in any way. Talking about the twins. I hope Mr amaral is watching these interviews .x

Thanks welshy! Sounds like she's put her foot in it!

Ah yes, the McFoot in the McMouth again.  I believe Dr Amaral has massive grounds to sue the ganga pants off the lying pair, and I really hope he does!

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