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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 5 May - 13:34

I've seen this on a couple of places on Facebook and now Joana Morais has posted this.

Original posted by Digging for Madeleine McCann

NOTICE : This morning at 10am, Stephen D. Birch received a registered letter containing papers from Portugals Ministerio da Justica in which both the state and Robert James Queriol Eveleigh Murat and Jenifer Na Murat are suing Stephen for tresspassing and the state is suing Stephen for unlawfully conducting an investigation under article 57 & 58 section 2,3 and 4 of the penal act... (In July 2012, Stephen entered Robert Murats property and discovered what he believes to be Madeleine McCann remains buried beneath Roberts Murats rear gravel driveway)

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Post  fred on Mon 5 May - 13:50

Well, well well!!! It is all kicking off now!! I think all this 'new' stuff might well mean we are coming for a conclusion!!

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 5 May - 14:00

fred wrote:Well, well well!!!  It is all kicking off now!!  I think all this 'new' stuff might well mean we are coming for a conclusion!!

It rather looks like it, I reckon, especially as Birch is being sued by Robert Murat and the State.

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Post  fred on Mon 5 May - 14:05

How easy is it to sue someone in a differente continent?

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Post  Guest on Mon 5 May - 14:18

AnnaEsse wrote:I've seen this on a couple of places on Facebook and now Joana Morais has posted this.

Original posted by Digging for Madeleine McCann

NOTICE : This morning at 10am, Stephen D. Birch received a registered letter containing papers from Portugals Ministerio da Justica in which both the state and Robert James Queriol Eveleigh Murat and Jenifer Na Murat are suing Stephen for tresspassing and the state is suing Stephen for unlawfully conducting an investigation under article 57 & 58 section 2,3 and 4 of the penal act... (In July 2012, Stephen entered Robert Murats property and discovered what he believes to be Madeleine McCann remains buried beneath Roberts Murats rear gravel driveway)

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Serves him right. Feckin' nut job if ever there was one.

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Post  jassi on Mon 5 May - 14:21

fred wrote:How easy is it to sue someone in a differente continent?

Almost impossible, I would have thought, but I imagine he will keep well away from Portugal from now on.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 5 May - 16:06

We do of course have to assume that Stephen Birch is telling the truth for once.

How could he ever have gained access to the Murats' garden with their guard dogs there?

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Post  wjk on Mon 5 May - 16:29

Not Born Yesterday wrote:We do of course have to assume that Stephen Birch is telling the truth for once.

How could he ever have gained access to the Murats' garden with their guard dogs there?
And carrying his machine over the wall/gate/hedge without them hearing him?

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 5 May - 16:44

He has also claimed that Robert Murat has agreed that he can go in and excavate the garden for a large amount of money (and produced a letter which appeared to confirm that) so it seems very unlikely that RM would now be taking legal action against him.

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Post  Claudia79 on Mon 5 May - 16:57

He can always allege insanity. I'm sure that will get him off...


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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 5 May - 17:01

As one who's had conversations with him on another forum and on Facebook, I can certainly vouch for his lack of sanity!

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Post  kitti on Mon 5 May - 17:04

Why  hasnt  murat  sued  tanner, o'brien, oldfield and payne?

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Post  margaret on Mon 5 May - 18:07

Why sue now as rumours of other digging is about to start?

There something very strange going on behind the scenes IMO.   

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Post  almostgothic on Mon 5 May - 18:25

Two 'dig stories' in one day.
The timing is quite staggering!

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Post  kathybelle on Mon 5 May - 18:37

The garden Birch claimed he entered, does not belong to Robert Murat, it belongs to his mother. Robert Murat hasn't lived there for years, he lives with his partner and their young child, in another part of Portugal.

When Birch first made these claims, Robert Murat gave an interview which was printed in a Portuguese newspaper. I no longer have the link, but from memory, I remember Robert Murat stating that it was impossible for Birch to enter the garden, because two guard dogs live in the garden. His mother had to buy these guard dogs, because she was getting harassed by people who still believed her son was responsible for whatever happened to Madeleine.

He stated that when he was brought in for questioning, as a possible suspect, the PJ borrowed state of the art equipment, to see if there was a body under any part of his mother's garden. Nothing was found. He said he had spoken to his lawyer about Birch's claim, because his mother was very distressed.

Also Robert Murat, filed a legal complaint against Jane Tanner, back in 2010.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/02/robert-murat-criminal-complaint-against.html

I don't know what the outcome of the complaint was. Maybe one of our Portuguese posters will know.


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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 5 May - 18:41

This throws even more doubt on Stephen Birch's claim that he's being sued by Robert Murat if the latter doesn't believe that he was ever there.

P.S. The writ - if that's what it is  - is on this link but I don't know if everyone will be able to access it.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1262019408&fref=nf

If anyone can access it - and can translate it - that would be great.

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Post  kathybelle on Mon 5 May - 18:48

Not Born Yesterday wrote:This throws even more doubt on Stephen Birch's claim that he's being sued by Robert Murat if the latter doesn't believe that he was ever there.

Hi NBY

I've just been looking for information, regarding Robert Murat's interview. It's in the link below.

http://www.anorak.co.uk/327368/madeleine-mccann/robert-murat-is-targeted-once-more.html/


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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 5 May - 18:51

Thanks for that.

I'm certainly more inclined to believe Robert Murat than Stephen Birch!

By the way, the writ that I've posted a link to is in Portuguese so I can't read it but nowhere does it mention the Murats.

P.S. Here's another link which might be accessible.

https://www.facebook.com/diggingformadeleinmccann?ref=ts

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Post  kathybelle on Mon 5 May - 19:19

Regarding Robert Murat's criminal complaint against Jane Tanner, I've just found another link, where he took out a second criminal complaint, against Tanner's partner Russell O'Brien, Fiona Payne and Rachel Oldfield.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/02/mccann-case-expat-is-to-sue-tapas-bar.html


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Post  malena stool on Mon 5 May - 19:28

It would be nice for the tish finally to have hit the fan, but.....

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Post  kathybelle on Mon 5 May - 19:33

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Thanks for that.

I'm certainly more inclined to believe Robert Murat than Stephen Birch!

By the way, the writ that I've posted a link to is in Portuguese so I can't read it but nowhere does it mention the Murats.

P.S. Here's another link which might be accessible.

https://www.facebook.com/diggingformadeleinmccann?ref=ts

Hello again NBY

I've just taken a look at the link and tried to translate the writ into English, using Google. However I was unsuccessful.

Like yourself, I couldn't see the name Murat in the link.

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Post  weissnicht on Tue 6 May - 7:37

What happens now with the money he was collecting for the dig?

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Post  Annabel on Tue 6 May - 8:21

Not new, but maybe interesting to read again:

http://chrisspivey.org/murat-agrees-to-madeleine-dig/

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Post  kathybelle on Tue 6 May - 8:56

weissnicht wrote:What happens now with the money he was collecting for the dig?

Anyone who gave Birch money to conduct this dig, is a fool, there is no proof that Birch paid £40k for this scanner, anymore than there is proof that he entered Mrs Murat's garden. If Birch was such a do gooder, he would have spent time and money, looking for children in his country. Also if he believed the McCanns version events, Madeleine is supposedly alive.

When Birch was spouting his claims on 'You Tube', he was asked how he could enter the garden, when there were two dogs present, Birch said the dogs were asleep. If that was true, the buzzing from the scanner would have awoken the dogs. On another forum, Birch said that he waited until Robert Murat took his dogs out, before he entered the garden. I've said previously that Robert Murat doesn't live with his mother and hasn't done for years, Birch obviously didn't know this, but  if he did, he would have had watch the property 24hrs a day, to see when Robert Murat arrived at his mother's house to take the dogs out, always assuming he did take the dogs out.

In my opinion, Birch has found a way of making money out of Madeleine's disappearance, by spouting his lies to the 'McCann luvvies'  and 'Murat Haters'. Birch said he wasn't accusing Robert Murat of anything, whether that is true or not, he knew that his claims would cause more grief for Robert Murat, not to mention his mother, current partner, along with his ex wife and daughter, who live in the UK.

Robert Murat's ex wife, had to move house, due to threats made against her daughter, by 'Murat Haters'.


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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Tue 6 May - 9:54

I'm currently in conversation with him on Facebook asking why there is no mention of the Murats on the document. Watch this space!

P.S. I've had a one word reply - "later" - so I won't be holding my breath! At least it wasn't a two word reply, with one of them being "off".

On a previous occasion he claimed to have arranged a meeting with Kate. I asked for more details, such as when and where, but he didn't reply at all and hasn't mentioned it since.

He reminds me of an attention-seeking child I knew many years ago who would come up with all sorts of stories without thinking that she would need to prove what she was saying.

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