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Post  Annabel on Tue 13 May - 13:25

http://algarvenewswatch.blogspot.nl/2014/05/is-madeleine-case-at-crossroad.html?spref=tw


The Madeleine McCann case seems to have reached a critical juncture: police are planning to start a new phase in the investigation, but there is a very real risk it may collapse in disarray.
The paradox is explained by a fundamental difference in the way the Portuguese and British police go about their business.
The forthcoming investigative activities will be conducted by the Polícia Judiciária working on behalf of the Metropolitan Police Service.
The normal and preferred practice of the Met is to brief the media on an ongoing basis. They do not necessarily reveal full details, but pass on as much information as possible while still safeguarding operations.
The Met says this usually ensures that media coverage assists rather than damages an investigation.
The policy of the PJ is very different. It does not brief the media on current investigations. The Portuguese penal code forbids this in order to avoid releasing anything that might prejudice a case.
The PJ has made its position very clear to the Met and the Met has alerted the British media: there will be no briefings on the joint operation from either side.
The PJ has warned that if the British police do pass on information, or if journalists cause any disruption, the new phase of the Madeleine investigation will be closed, at least until any infringement is sorted out.
After talks with his PJ counterpart, the Met’s assistant commissioner, Mark Rowley, fully accepted this. “We respect the Portuguese position as we would expect them to respect our position if we were carrying out work on their behalf in the UK,” he said in a letter to editors. “Collectively we all need to think carefully about our actions in this case.”
In a statement on Facebook last week, Kate and Gerry McCann said that “interference” by journalists in the latest phase of the investigation “not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her.”
Just before the 7th anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance on May 3, the British media were full of stories about a lone sexual predator assaulting British girls on holiday in the Algarve.
Immediately after the anniversary, the spotlight switched to ground searches planned for specific sites.
The Mirror started the rash of stories on the searches with a “world exclusive” headlined “Maddie cops to start digging up resort.” It reported a source close to the McCanns as saying that “Kate and Gerry have been told police will be conducting the searches in and around Praia da Luz as soon as they get the green light from Portuguese authorities.”
The Mirror’s unnamed source went on to say that Kate and Gerry “don’t believe police are acting on any new tip off. They just need to carry out their own digs, looking for any possible clues that Portuguese authorities may have missed on their previous searches.”
Reports followed in several papers about growing tensions between the Met and the PJ. The Met was frustrated by the slowness of the bureaucratic process needed to get the searches underway. The PJ was irritated not only by media briefings, but also by the nature of the new phase of the investigation.
The PJ is said to have dismissed the Met’s theory that Madeleine may have been abducted by a lone predator suspected of attacking British girls. Furthermore, the PJ is said to consider digging for evidence in Praia da Luz a waste of time.
A point the mainstream media almost never touch on is that a great many sceptical observers, privately or in online forums, seriously question why the Met and the British media do not budge from the abduction hypothesis. The sceptics also wonder if the investigation is going anywhere except into oblivion.



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Post  pennylane on Tue 13 May - 13:45

Thank you Annabel x

Interesting indeed, and a big thumbs up for the last para.

A point the mainstream media almost never touch on is that a great many sceptical observers, privately or in online forums, seriously question why the Met and the British media do not budge from the abduction hypothesis. The sceptics also wonder if the investigation is going anywhere except into oblivion.


  

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Post  LJC on Tue 13 May - 13:47

algarvenews wrote:A point the mainstream media almost never touch on is that a great many sceptical observers, privately or in online forums, seriously question why the Met and the British media do not budge from the abduction hypothesis.

But she has been abducted hasn't she.  She wasn't there, she was missing.  Can't parents abduct their own children?  Of course they can.

This is not a question (imo) of its an abduction or its not an abduction; its a question of by whom, why, how, and when.


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Post  tanszi on Tue 13 May - 13:51

there is no proof that Madeleine has been abducted, only that she is missing, which is not the same.

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Post  pennylane on Tue 13 May - 13:52

tanszi wrote:there is no proof that Madeleine has been abducted, only that she is missing, which is not the same.  

Amen!

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Post  kitti on Tue 13 May - 13:53

Knowone abducts a dead child.

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Post  LJC on Tue 13 May - 14:53

tanszi wrote:there is no proof that Madeleine has been abducted, only that she is missing, which is not the same.  

kitti wrote:Knowone abducts a dead child.


Whether its abduction of a live child or staged abduction of a dead child, its still an abduction of sorts.

And Andy Redwood has said that Madeleine might not have left the apartment alive.


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Post  frencheuropean on Tue 13 May - 15:22

A very well balanced article. And the last paragraph, for a change, doesn't speak of nutters but:

"a great many sceptical observers, privately or in online forums..."

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Post  almostgothic on Tue 13 May - 15:33

Len Port - the perfect antidote to Clarriewhoppers.

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Post  Panda on Tue 13 May - 15:45

Thanks Annabel , interesting read.  

The normal and preferred practice of the Met is to brief the media on an ongoing basis. They do not necessarily reveal full details, but pass on as much information as possible while still safeguarding operations.
The Met says this usually ensures that media coverage assists rather than damages an investigation."

How the Hell can the Met say this when the Press report tongue in cheek on the so called suspects provided by Redwood???


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Post  kitti on Tue 13 May - 16:20

Ben Needham and Madeleine McCann are both classed at 'missing' not abducted.

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Post  Panda on Tue 13 May - 16:55

kitti wrote:Ben Needham and Madeleine McCann are both classed at 'missing' not abducted.

Yes, the McCanns used "abducted" from Day 1. The reason being , "abducted " means to carry off illegally by force or deceptiion" "kidnap" to carry off by force for ransom". These were educated Parents and were careful to use the right word because there was no need for ransom notes.

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Post  LJC on Tue 13 May - 17:33

kitti wrote:Ben Needham and Madeleine McCann are both classed at 'missing' not abducted.

Tell that to Ben's mom. She believes abduction. However, what is official and what is unofficial often get blurred.

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Post  kitti on Tue 13 May - 17:37

It doesn't matter what she believes I'm afraid......



Missing people's site they are both 'missing'

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Post  jeanmonroe on Tue 13 May - 18:01

The FCO filed the case in May 2008 [Ben Needham]. You will also be aware of the Madeleine McCann case. Both this and the Needham case are categorised as a missing persons, rather than child abduction cases, as there is no evidence in either case to support whether the children were or were not abducted.

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Post  Panda on Tue 13 May - 18:15

jeanmonroe wrote:The FCO filed the case in May 2008 [Ben Needham]. You will also be aware of the Madeleine McCann case. Both this and the Needham case are categorised as a missing persons, rather than child abduction cases, as there is no evidence in either case to support whether the children were or were not abducted.

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Hi jeanmonroe, With regard to Ben's disappearance , his Mother was working and the Grandparents looking after him.Apparently he was playing in the back garden while the family were having lunch when they went to look for him he had disappeared and at the end of the garden was a country road. Since Ben was only two yrs old I did wonder why the Grandparents left him outside, we can all be wise after the event though. Ben's Mother has never stopped searching and she never had a massive Fund. Apparently Ben has a birthmark on his thigh , his mother appealed with this info in the hope that he would see the message.

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Post  kathybelle on Tue 13 May - 19:02

Great post Panda   

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Post  Panda on Tue 13 May - 23:07

kathybelle wrote:Great post Panda   

Aw Gee Thanks Kathybelle.    There was a Documentary with Ben's Mother last year, I can't remember her name . She said the British Police refused to intervene because Greece was a Foreign Country. It was only when the McCanns got help from Cameron that the Police went to Portugal and helped the Greeks dig up a huge mound of earth in Ben's Grandparents garden that had been there at the time Ben vanished left by previous workmen. Bens' Mother is a Lady, the only financial help she got was donations from friends and family , no selling Tshirts and wristbands, more Press than any Film Stars,
friends in high places.

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