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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  kitti on Tue 13 May - 16:40

Some bloke was arrested where I live a while back , he was caught having sex with a sheep.



Poor sheep.

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  kitti on Tue 13 May - 16:41

But who planted that tabloid bullshit?

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Post  dutchclogs on Tue 13 May - 16:41

At first it was a no for me,but as the years has gone by Iam not so sure about Mr Robert Murat, saying that I do hope I am wrong for his mother's sake 

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  Claudia79 on Tue 13 May - 16:41

Roasted Arizona wrote:And it might have been tabloid bullshit..

The only mention to that was a witness statement which GA referred to as a 'pseudo friend of Murat's with a criminal record'. Nothing of interest was found in Murat's computer.

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  kitti on Tue 13 May - 16:41

Prob the same man that said he had sex with a cat.

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  chrissie on Tue 13 May - 16:46

kitti wrote:Prob the same man that said he had sex with a cat.

I thought the PJ received an anonymous phone call from someone who claim to know him from when he was young and accused him of all sorts. But that was where it ended. I may well be wrong though after all this time.

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  Guest on Tue 13 May - 17:14

Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote:
Roasted Arizona wrote:I don't believe he had anything to do with Madeleine and I don't believe he's shady.

You dont believe he is shady ?
Have you any idea of the content of the material the PJ found on his computer ?

What material did the PJ find on Murat's computer?
IIRC it was "pornography" that turned out to be a picture of his ex-wife wearing a nightie. Big deal!  

I think he was arguidoed because of his role as a translator. I also think he was overanxious to "help" look important, so he kind of muscled in on the scene; the McCanns took advantage of that and used it to try and set him up. He was maybe naïve but not wicked.

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Post  xtina on Tue 13 May - 17:21

Claudia79 wrote:
Roasted Arizona wrote:And it might have been tabloid bullshit..

The only mention to that was a witness statement which GA referred to as a 'pseudo friend of Murat's with a criminal record'. Nothing of interest was found in Murat's computer.



from what i can remember ...it was pics of his x wife in negligee and so forth ....plastered all over the sunday tabloids

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Tue 13 May - 17:31

dutchclogs wrote:At first it  was a no for me,but as the years has gone by Iam not so sure about Mr Robert Murat, saying that I do hope I am wrong for his mother's sake 

I hope so for the sake of his young children.

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  Claudia79 on Tue 13 May - 17:37

Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote:
Roasted Arizona wrote:I don't believe he had anything to do with Madeleine and I don't believe he's shady.

You dont believe he is shady ?
Have you any idea of the content of the material the PJ found on his computer ?

What material did the PJ find on Murat's computer?
IIRC it was "pornography" that turned out to be a picture of his ex-wife wearing a nightie.  Big deal!  

I think he was arguidoed because of his role as a translator.  I also think he was overanxious to "help" look important, so he kind of muscled in on the scene; the McCanns took advantage of that and used it to try and set him up.  He was maybe naïve but not wicked.

"a picture of his ex-wife wearing a nightie" The filthy pig!   
It was good that he was made an arguido. He was investigated, had all his electronic devices, his place, his garden and his cars searched and nothing found. And, of course, since nothing was found, he was able to sue and get some money from the stinking press.

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  kitti on Tue 13 May - 17:40

Just as well there arent any pics off me in my nighties.....they would be classed as 'obscene '

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  tanszi on Tue 13 May - 17:53

no one wouild want to look at pics of me in my nighties theyre granny nighties!

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  jeanmonroe on Tue 13 May - 17:54

The McCanns 'friends' R O'B, FP and RO would have certainly liked RM to be 'involved'!

And all three returned to Portugal, 2 months later, from the UK in order to 'confront' him!


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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  kathybelle on Tue 13 May - 18:55

I don't believe Robert Murat was involved with Madeleine's disappearance, for one minute. The PJ went right through his background, took every bit of his personal property away from him along with his computer, which was analysed by a computer expert. Mrs Murat's home and garden was searched thoroughly more than once.

Nothing was found in Robert Murat's background, his personal property nor his computer, which raised concerns that Mr Murat, could have been involved with Madeleine's disappearance.

Nothing was found in Mrs Murat's home or garden, to show that Madeleine had ever visited her home and garden, let alone be harmed or brought there in a deceased state.

Gerry McCann had an agenda for refusing to answer if he knew Robert Murat. He thought  that by refusing to answer, the suspicion of Madeleine's disappearance, would fall on the head of Robert Murat and away from them.

Those of you who still believe without a shred of evidence, are indirectly accusing the PJ of not doing their job properly, because unlike the McCanns, Robert Murat was cleared.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if that UK journalist, had not made an allegation that Robert Murat was hanging around, when he was helping the GNR with translation issues, no one apart from Mr Murat's family, friends and acquaintances, would have ever heard from him. That journalist's allegations, were what led Jane Tanner and co., to make false allegations against  Mr Murat, which in turn made him a hate figure.

The McCanns who are 100% responsible for whatever happened to Madeleine including any mental and physical suffering she will have endured, have never experienced the grief, the Murat's have experienced.

I think it's terrible that Robert Murat, is still being accused of some part in Madeleine's disappearance and I sincerely hope, he doesn't read forums, where these accusations are still being made.

I'm baffled by all these accusations against Robert Murat, that are made without evidence.

There is evidence that the McCanns have played a part in Madeleine's disappearance and the evidence came out of the McCanns own mouths, when they admitted leaving Madeleine and the twins alone. I know most of us don't believe the McCanns version of events, but if the McCanns version of events was untrue, they are not and can never be innocent.


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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  Lioned on Tue 13 May - 19:17

kitti wrote:Prob the same man that said he had sex with a cat.

It was that bloke with a name like a coffee shop.

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Post  Lioned on Tue 13 May - 19:20

Lioned wrote:
kitti wrote:Prob the same man that said he had sex with a cat.

It was that bloke with a name like a coffee shop.

Also there was indeed an 'anonymous' phone call from a woman i think.




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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  kathybelle on Tue 13 May - 19:38

Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote:
Roasted Arizona wrote:I don't believe he had anything to do with Madeleine and I don't believe he's shady.

You dont believe he is shady ?
Have you any idea of the content of the material the PJ found on his computer ?

What material did the PJ find on Murat's computer?
IIRC it was "pornography" that turned out to be a picture of his ex-wife wearing a nightie.  Big deal!  

I think he was arguidoed because of his role as a translator.  I also think he was overanxious to "help" look important, so he kind of muscled in on the scene; the McCanns took advantage of that and used it to try and set him up.  He was maybe naïve but not wicked.

Hi Iris

Robert Murat was made an arguido, because he requested the status. The reason he requested the status, was because each time he was taken in for questioning, he was questioned as a witness. This meant he couldn't have a lawyer present, which caused him to believe that the PJ were going to pin Madeleine disappearance on him.

He fully expected to be released from his status, once nothing was found to implicate him with Madeleine's disappearance and especially when the McCanns were made arguidos. However that didn't happen, he was told he would have to remain an arguido, until the McCanns were either charged or released from their arguido status.

Although the PJ had no evidence to prove that Robert Murat had played a part in Madeleine's disappearance, when the McCanns were made arguidos and allowed to go home with no restrictions on them, Robert Murat had to remain in Portugal and adhere to the terms of the arguido status. Unlike the McCanns, he had cooperated fully with the PJ and he was s**t on. Not by the PJ but by the Portuguese Authorities.

When the McCanns were given permission to go home, the PJ tried and failed to make them remain in Portugal. The McCanns were free to go anywhere they like and that included travelling in and out of the UK. Robert Murat, asked permission to spend some time with his daughter who lives in the UK, he was given two weeks in the UK and then he had to return to Portugal.

I don't have any link to show that Robert Murat requested the arguido status, I did have, but like a lot of information that has vanished, the link has also vanished. However, I do remember Robert Murat's lawyer standing outside Mrs Murat's home, stating that Mr Murat had asked for the arguido status, because it gave him certain rights. Including the right to have a lawyer present when he was questioned. The status also gave him the right to remain silent, should he wish to. However unlike Kate McCann, he answered every question put to him, but then why wouldn't he, when he was an innocent man.

If Kate McCann was innocent, she too would have answered every question put to her and I don't mean answering no. She would have answered every question, because she would have hoped that by answering the questions, Madeleine may have been found.

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  tanszi on Tue 13 May - 23:33

two well thought out and factual posts which I agree with katyhybelle

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  kathybelle on Tue 13 May - 23:50

tanszi wrote:two well thought out and factual posts which I agree with katyhybelle

Thanks Tanszi.   

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mccannfiles has this

Post  MJH1901 on Wed 14 May - 15:56

It is reported that two cars used by the Murat's had been examined, and computers, mobile phones and several video tapes were taken away from their villa. It was claimed that, on examination, several links to paedophile websites were found on the computers and that some video tapes showed depraved sexual acts and bestiality though nothing was found to directly link Murat to Madeleine's disappearance.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id90.html

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  Panda on Wed 14 May - 17:36

Perhaps someone will remember the Russian whose ex became the girlfriend of Murat . The Russian had his car parked outside his Flat and someone painted on the pavement or road "tell the truth" or words to that effect . I don't think Murat was involved in Madeleine's disappearance , but wasn't it Murat that Gerry asked to borrow his car to get some medicine from the Chemist.?


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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Wed 14 May - 17:40

That was Sergei (or Sergey) Malinka who owned the burnt out car but Robert Murat's now wife wasn't his ex-girlfriend.

I don't know anything about your last sentence, Panda.

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  Panda on Wed 14 May - 17:54

Not Born Yesterday wrote:That was Sergei (or Sergey) Malinka who owned the burnt out car but Robert Murat's now wife wasn't his ex-girlfriend.

I don't know anything about your last sentence, Panda.

I seem to remember that Murat did have a relationship with Malinka's ex NBY, probably shortlived . I seem to remember Gerry asking to borrow Murat.s car, but to find any info will be like looking for a needle in a haystack. What do you think of the message to Malinka. "tell the truth"?

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  dazedandconfused on Wed 14 May - 18:00

No, don't think Murat ever had a relationship with any of Malinka's exes. I did find this about the connection between the two though
http://the-elite-and-child-abduction.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/did-sergey-malika-took-pictures-of.html

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Re: Robert Murat - Yes or No?

Post  almostgothic on Wed 14 May - 18:05

Murat's girlfriend (now wife) is the ex-wife of Luis Antonio, a pool cleaner from Lagos.
I don't think a Malinka ex has ever been mentioned in connection with Murat.

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