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Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  interested on Sun 25 May - 23:48

Dr. Roberts' latest post, 25 May, 2014, "Taking A Gamble" is available at www.mccannfiles.com under Latest News (scroll down).

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Re: Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  tanszi on Mon 26 May - 0:15

well worth a read .........

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Post  Wintabells on Mon 26 May - 0:20

EXCLUSIVE to mccannfiles.com

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html

By Dr Martin Roberts

25 May 2014





TAKING A GAMBLE

Nowadays, for the McCanns and their public champions, appearances before the camera or on radio are fraught with more risks than ever before. Former head of CEOP, Jim Gamble, illustrates the point only too clearly. Interviewed recently for the Belfast Telegraph (19 May) he concludes with:

"I think Gerry and Kate McCann will get closure in my lifetime. My heart goes out to them. I never cease to be appalled by some of the things people say.

"A woman on the radio earlier was more fixated that Kate and Gerry left the kids and went for a meal.

"You know what? Lots of people make mistakes. Few people pay this price. Sometimes people should just think before they speak.

It must surely be a comfort to know that 'closure' for the McCanns will come within a lifetime. Can we afford to sustain Operation Grange for quite that long? But you're right Jim. People really should think before they speak. The world would be a happier place if we all did so, including your good self if I may make so bold.

That 'woman on the radio earlier' was followed by none other than our Jim, interviewed on the same programme no less (The JVS Show phone-in on BBC Three Counties Radio, 15 May). But before we take a closer look at the thoughts of career copper 'Cap'n Jim', let's just adjust the starting blocks with another of his explanations to the Belfast Telegraph:

Q. "You invested a lot in CEOP, you built it up but then you walk away in 2010. Do you regret it?

A. "I came to the point it was a matter of principle. For me it was the right thing. My fear was that it would be subsumed into a larger organisation. The Home Secretary said it would retain its identity, its profile and they would build on the success it had. Well, arrests have dropped in the last three years, the sign outside CEOP no longer says CEOP. It says National Crime Agency. Its profile has dropped. In NCA the C stands for crime. In CEOP the C always stood for children".

Never mind the beguiling Home Secretary and Gamble's paternal concern for children, the answer to the question is writ large in sentences 1 – 3. 'Subsumed into a larger organization' would mean, inevitably, that he would no longer be 'top banana', and since 'wherever egos Jim goes', Jim went.

The sheer arrogance of Jim Gamble is reflected in his conspicuous lack of professionalism toward fellow police officers and sardonic ungraciousness toward others. He and Gerry McCann no doubt got on very well together. After listening to what 'that woman on the radio' said earlier, Gamble expresses his considered opinion with respect to the proposed excavation of Praia da Luz requested by the Metropolitan Police:

"'Why now?' that's a question perhaps for the Portuguese police. These issues are being addressed because they weren't done at the time. The... the British authorities and the Metropolitan Police, who have brought a real professional focus to bear on this..."

Implying, of course, that the Portuguese police brought something other than 'a real professional focus' to bear. Gamble's insinuation is not only tactless, it is unwarranted, disrespectful and quite disgraceful. But no more so than his comment upon 'that woman's' (Sarah's) earlier point of view:

"I think it's misplaced and she's given us a lot of her opinions, so let me just give you my opinion of her call.

"I think it's spiteful, I think it's small-minded, I think she's a condescending individual that needs to reflect on the hurt that parents feel - not the issues in the margins". He later adds:

"So, I think she needs... she really needs to look in the mirror, and if I was her this morning, after listening to my interview be broadcast, I wouldn't want to look in the mirror, and, quite frankly, I wouldn't want to meet ordinary mums and dads in the street after what she just said, whether it's in Praia da Luz or where she lives".

Well, Jim, we are each of us entitled to hold an opinion about things, but is a concentrated character-assassination really worthy of a former Police supremo with residual ambitions? I think not. The true worth of Jim Gamble's advocacy of the McCanns soon emerges, as he continues:

"but the fact that a child was, you know, has... was... did go missing... is still missing, and that those parents are tortured..."

Let's get one thing out of the way shall we? The parents have been 'tortured', as Gamble puts it, for seven years. Their daughter Madeleine is dead for eternity.

Now, what was it he twice had to duck out of saying? 'has been abducted', 'was abducted' perhaps? What makes him so uncertain? Let's allow 'big Jim' to tell us himself:

"These are the parents of a child who is suspected to have been abducted".

(The boot's on back-to-front here isn't it? 'She was the child of parents who were suspected of hiding her body').

"The initial inquiry had led, you know, to... to no... no one being arrested, no one being held to account for this".

(Standing a bit too near the edge again here are we? The initial inquiry had led, you know, to... to the McCanns. That’s in the evidence the 'professionals' engaged in Operation Grange will have reviewed)

"I mean, this is about searching for a child who may well have been abducted and who may well have suffered, you know, harm including murder. And I really don't like to speculate about what may, or may not have happened, but had the investigation covered all these bases in the beginning we wouldn't be here now".

Ah Jim... Jim... No sooner do you attempt to feed the world bullshit than you give yourself the impossible task of polishing a turd.

"I mean, this is about searching for a child who may well have been abducted"

The child may have been abducted. On the other hand she may not. Small wonder then that Gamble declines to 'speculate about what may or may not have happened'.

You see, as Jim Gamble so eloquently explains, this is all about a child who may have been abducted OR...

Our Jim, for glaringly obvious reasons, refrains from articulating the alternative. The same alternative that was expressly 'shut out' from the (published) remit for Operation Grange. But since he has introduced the element of doubt, there can be nothing illegitimate about our clarifying the situation on his behalf.

Madeleine McCann may have been abducted, or something else must have happened to cause her disappearance. Now what could that be? There's no way she could have left the family's apartment on her own (we've been told that often enough) and yet she has not been seen in her parents' company, or anyone else's for that matter, for seven years. Someone must have taken her from 5A. But that's abduction isn't it? And she may not have been abducted (the admissible alternative to Jim Gamble's 'may well have been').

Notwithstanding his understandable reluctance to speculate, Jim Gamble nevertheless gives us, in the same breath:

"...but had the investigation covered all these bases in the beginning we wouldn't be here now".

All what bases? The ones pertaining to the search for a child who 'may have been abducted'. Which makes the question of abduction itself a base to be covered, then as now.

So you're thinking of pruning a tree in your garden which happens to overhang the fence with your neighbour (who is entitled to engage in deforestation on his own account), and considering which side of the fence to work on yourself. No contest. Especially when you weigh up the number of branches involved. No one makes unnecessary work for themselves do they? No. So the first base either the Portuguese or the Met Police should have covered, Jim, is whether Madeleine McCann was abducted or not – not who might have abducted her in the event that she 'may have been'.

Well the seemingly less professional Portuguese acted sensibly. The Met, on the other hand, are lumbered with pruning all those extra branches. Which means, Jim, that you, the McCanns, and the rest of us, will probably have to wait a lifetime after all for the 'closure' to which you refer, unless or until someone in authority decides to lift the taboo on the blindingly obvious, and permit examination of the forbidden alternative, the existence of which you yourself have admitted.

Care to take a gamble on how long that might take, Jim? It would make a change from taking the Michael for the past seven years.

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Re: Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  jinvta on Mon 26 May - 1:13

"So the first base either the Portuguese or the Met Police should have covered, Jim, is whether Madeleine McCann was abducted or not – not who might have abducted her in the event that she 'may have been."

This is exactly what Pat Brown has been hammering on about, and rightfully so. The Met has never considered any possibility other than Madeleine being abducted, despite there being no evidence to support this theory. Kate's claim that the shutters were open and the curtains went 'whoosh' are not evidence that an abduction occurred. Despite Gerry's persistent claims that "a little girl is missing," and therefore must have been abducted, this simply isn't the case.

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Re: Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  weissnicht on Mon 26 May - 7:49

tanszi wrote:well worth a read .........
Yes. It's very good.


Gamble just keeps getting creepier, day by day.

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Re: Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  almostgothic on Mon 26 May - 8:24

Having witnessed some of Gamble's insulting and sometimes menacing comments on Twitter, aimed at those with a different POV, I'm not surprised at his recent absurdly over-the-top radio and press performances.

Championing a cause (especially a long lost and highly dubious one) requires a much more measured, sophisticated and objective approach than mere vitriolic invective.

Playing the Rottweiler on any public platform is doing the McCanns no favours at all.

Kudos to Dr Roberts for telling it like it is.

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Re: Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  Panda on Mon 26 May - 10:02



Let's get one thing out of the way shall we? The parents have been 'tortured', as Gamble puts it, for seven years. Their daughter Madeleine is dead for eternity
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Well said Dr. Martin, I would love to know who he is when this case is over, he really does write succinctly.

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Re: Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  margaret on Mon 26 May - 12:01

almostgothic wrote:Having witnessed some of Gamble's insulting and sometimes menacing comments on Twitter, aimed at those with a different POV, I'm not surprised at his recent absurdly over-the-top radio and press performances.

Championing a cause (especially a long lost and highly dubious one) requires a much more measured, sophisticated and objective approach than mere vitriolic invective.

Playing the Rottweiler on any public platform is doing the McCanns no favours at all.

Kudos to Dr Roberts for telling it like it is.

Well said AG, Jim Gamble is his own worst enemy. He comes across as a fool wherever he pops up.  He tries to use emotive wording and vitriol in place of truth and logic. Never a good mix.  

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Re: Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  frencheuropean on Mon 26 May - 12:08

an excellent analyse.
I even learnt an expression:
 
"turd polishing"
 
"The act of trying to make something hopelessly weak and unattractive appear strong and appealing. An impossible process that usually results in a larger, uglier turd."
 
The image of J.G icing the B.. ist hilarious.

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Re: Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  kitti on Mon 26 May - 13:34

MR GAMBLE.



2 questions ..if I may.



1..Why did David Payne ring the child abuse line.


2....Why is there an empty CAT file regarding the Mccanns.



Also .....David Payne has supposedly been looked at regarding the allegations and nothing untoward was found against him via two doctor friends....why look into it if the allegations are totally 'ludicrous'.



One more.....Yvonne, did you look into the mccanns re neglect, have you contacted leicester social services re the Mccanns.



I would like to know the last bit because maybe the 'empty' CAT file had something in it regarding previous neglect off Madeleine and that's why a file was made up for future reference if something else were to happen....but it was emptied for some reason .

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Re: Taking A Gamble - Dr. Martin Roberts

Post  weissnicht on Mon 26 May - 14:02

kitti wrote:MR GAMBLE.



2 questions ..if I may.



1..Why did David Payne ring the child abuse line.


2....Why is there an empty CAT file regarding the Mccanns.



Also .....David Payne has supposedly been looked at regarding the allegations and nothing untoward was found against him via two doctor friends....why look into it if the allegations are totally 'ludicrous'.



One more.....Yvonne, did you look into the mccanns re neglect, have you contacted leicester social services re the Mccanns.



I would like to know the last bit because maybe the 'empty' CAT file had something in it regarding previous neglect off Madeleine and that's why a file was made up for future reference if something else were to happen....but it was emptied for some reason .
        

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