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Post  almostgothic on Wed 11 Jun - 14:48

Madeleine McCann Police Search A Third Site
A fresh cordon is set up around a new field after officers spent the morning scouring scrubland east of the Praia da Luz resort.

By Tom Parmenter, Sky Correspondent, in Portugal

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have switched their focus to a third site.

At lunchtime, a cordon around scrubland just outside the resort of Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, which had earlier been set up by Portuguese police and searched by a British team, was taken down.

Instead, a new area was taped off in a field directly opposite the second search site.

Sky News has also learned an object recovered during the first searches last week has been sent away for analysis.

A Portuguese police source confirmed the object was being examined at a laboratory.

The source was unable to confirm what it was, but said the results from the laboratory should be known within days.

More follows...http://news.sky.com/story/1280200/madeleine-mccann-police-search-a-third-site

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Post  Keela on Wed 11 Jun - 14:49

The news today also stated that the suspects were to be interviewed later this month! What, if you know who you are going to talk to, is the problem in interviewing them now?

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Post  chrissie on Wed 11 Jun - 14:52

Madeleine McCann: Site Was Identified In 2007
The site searched by UK police on Wednesday was first pinpointed by an ex-detective seven years ago after Madeleine disappeared.
2:29pm UK, Wednesday 11 June 2014



By Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent

The new Madeleine McCann search site is in an area where a private investigator, working with her parents' support, said he found "evidence" of the missing girl soon after she vanished.

But at the time his report was dismissed by a UK police adviser as "likely to be of low value" and Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry agreed with that view.

Former South African policeman Danie Krugel said he was disappointed that no one followed up his work.

The area was searched by police on horseback in the early days of the investigation.

http://news.sky.com/story/1280158/madeleine-mccann-site-was-identified-in-2007

I still want to know where they got the hair to give to Krugel.




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Post  mossman on Wed 11 Jun - 15:02

They have finished on the second site very quickly. - like they knew they were looking for something in particular, found it, now move on to the third site.

Chrissie, I could be wrong but I think I remember Krugel saying he got the hair from a hairbrush, said to be Madeleine's.

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 11 Jun - 15:06

Keela wrote:The news today also stated that the suspects were to be interviewed later this month! What, if you know who you are going to talk to, is the problem in interviewing them now?
I suppose the thinking behind that is that if anything useful is thrown up by the current searches and confirmed as such by lab tests, they will have more ammunition at their fingertips.
Depending on who exactly is being questioned, the info gleaned will then make it easier for them to either build a case or eliminate said persons from the investigation. If it is merely witnesses that are being questioned, it could help strengthen their testimony.

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Post  ann_chovey on Wed 11 Jun - 15:08

mossman wrote:They have finished on the second site very quickly. -  like they knew they were looking for something in particular, found it, now move on to the third site.  

Chrissie, I could be wrong but I think I remember Krugel saying he got the hair from a hairbrush, said to be Madeleine's.  

hi mossman, I found this...


Krugel – known as “The Locator” for his success in tracing missing people in South Africa – was called in by Kate and Gerry McCann two months after Maddie vanished. He used DNA tracking – helped by a strand of Madeleine’s hair given to him by Gerry – and GPS satellite to pinpoint the area. He has also highlighted an area where he spotted a muddy pink and white child’s blanket.

Findings

He claims he didn’t remove it because he didn’t want to interfere with the police investigation. He then drew a map and gave a detailed report of his findings to local police. But he says a full search for Madeleine, who vanished shortly before her fourth birthday on May 3, 2007, never took place. Krugel told the Daily Star Sunday: “If they want me to go with them I will. “

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Post  chrissie on Wed 11 Jun - 15:20

Thanks mossman and ann_chovey  

ETA: Maybe it's the blanket they are looking for.

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Post  interested on Wed 11 Jun - 15:24

chrissie wrote:Madeleine McCann: Site Was Identified In 2007
The site searched by UK police on Wednesday was first pinpointed by an ex-detective seven years ago after Madeleine disappeared.
2:29pm UK, Wednesday 11 June 2014



By Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent

The new Madeleine McCann search site is in an area where a private investigator, working with her parents' support, said he found "evidence" of the missing girl soon after she vanished.

But at the time his report was dismissed by a UK police adviser as "likely to be of low value" and Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry agreed with that view.

Former South African policeman Danie Krugel said he was disappointed that no one followed up his work.

The area was searched by police on horseback in the early days of the investigation.

http://news.sky.com/story/1280158/madeleine-mccann-site-was-identified-in-2007

I still want to know where they got the hair to give to Krugel.






What (or who) is a police "adviser"? For all I know that could be Clarence Mitchell and naturally the McCanns would "agree" with their mouthpiece.

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 11 Jun - 15:26

Brendan de Beer's Guardian report is totally at odds with the others:

Madeleine McCann search on second site unearths 'no relevant finds'

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/11/madeleine-mccann-police-search-new-area-praia-da-luz

Maybe no-one told him about the 'object' on its way to the lab ...
...and if nothing found, why was the search given up so quickly?

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Post  mossman on Wed 11 Jun - 15:28


Thanks Ann Chovey.  

I found this also :


Taking a hair from Madeleine's coat, which was given to him by her father, Krugel's equipment repeatedly gave him signals that led him to the site, which is within walking distance of the apartment. Madeleine is alleged to have been kidnapped while her parents dined at a nearby tapas bar.

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Post  chrissie on Wed 11 Jun - 15:41

interested wrote:
chrissie wrote:Madeleine McCann: Site Was Identified In 2007
The site searched by UK police on Wednesday was first pinpointed by an ex-detective seven years ago after Madeleine disappeared.
2:29pm UK, Wednesday 11 June 2014



By Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent

The new Madeleine McCann search site is in an area where a private investigator, working with her parents' support, said he found "evidence" of the missing girl soon after she vanished.

But at the time his report was dismissed by a UK police adviser as "likely to be of low value" and Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry agreed with that view.

Former South African policeman Danie Krugel said he was disappointed that no one followed up his work.

The area was searched by police on horseback in the early days of the investigation.

http://news.sky.com/story/1280158/madeleine-mccann-site-was-identified-in-2007

I still want to know where they got the hair to give to Krugel.






What (or who) is a police "adviser"?  For all I know that could be Clarence Mitchell and naturally the McCanns would "agree" with their mouthpiece.

It was Mark Harrison I think. Scroll down here:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id304.html

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Post  Panda on Wed 11 Jun - 16:16

If the hair found in the car hired by the McCanns was identified as a match with the twins to the Parents but there was no match with Madeleine, why wasn't hair from Madeleine's head sent to FFS. ????? Why did Gerry go home to pick up a pillowcase supposedly from Madeleine's bed when her shoes and hairbrush were in Portugal?

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Post  mossman on Wed 11 Jun - 18:39

@xklamation: Maddie searches have ended, English police to return to UK on Thursday #McCann. Just posted

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Post  MaryB on Wed 11 Jun - 18:42

If an object of interest has been found I don't think they would say so at this early stage.

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 11 Jun - 18:54

Is it me or does anyone else think that today has been beyond surreal?

Dogs out early.
No GPRs. Still no JCBs.
Object reported found - sent off for analysis.
Then whoosh, cordons off - on to next site.
Whoosh again - it's all over - nothing found.
Home tomorrow.

I'm seeing my dentist on Monday. D'you think I should call a shrink too?

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Post  cass on Wed 11 Jun - 19:00

sy to be seen digging location a b c , we have found nothing ????? seen to return to uk all the photos in the press , now all press go home , they think its all over but digging going on without press knowing , they have found something but hush hush , court case going ahead mmmmm we will see if anyone turns up , if they do and the have something its gonna be were not in the money , but more like book em danno yep hawaii five o

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Post  fuzeta on Wed 11 Jun - 19:23

I think we can just forget about this dig now. I know we try to hope but did'nt we really know that nothing would come of it? They were never going to bury a body there. Hidden somewhere for the time being yes, but not there

We have to remember the hire car and that the forensics in Birmingham matched the DNA to Madeleine from the samples taken from the boot of the car. That was until Gordon Brown visited and then it was apparently all a mistake.

Then we have what Mr Amoral himself said and that was that the fluid found in the car was that of something that had been frozen.
Choosing my words!

This dig turned out just as expected. imo of course

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Post  mossman on Wed 11 Jun - 19:27

Notes to Editors
Operation Grange update



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Operation Grange officers working alongside experts in their field from around the UK, the Policia Judicial and the Guarda Nacional Republicana today, Wednesday 11 June completed an eight day period of work searching specific areas of land in Praia da Luz.

At this time no evidence relating to Madeleine McCann has been identified. However it has given us an essential understanding of the activity on and people that have used this piece of land.

This was the first phase of this major investigation which has been agreed with the Portuguese following the four International Letters of Request submitted to date. More activity has been agreed and we expect that to commence shortly. In addition further requests are being compiled and will be submitted in due course.

The decision to search the “horse shoe” shaped piece of waste ground to the west of Praia da Luz and other sites was as a specific result of the UK’s investigation work to date.

The total area of land searched and surveyed was of approximately 60,000 sq metres and included all utilities, drainage channels and derelict buildings. 41 ground anomalies were identified initially by both aerial survey and ground analysis which were then investigated fully. These included three outside of the original area.

This deployment which was the largest ever undertaken by UK police overseas in a case of this type, highlighted the effective nature of the assistance given by the Portuguese authorities, for which the investigation team and family are very grateful.

The media’s understanding and co-operation following Assistant Commissioner Rowley’s pre deployment briefing has also been noted and appreciated.

There is still a substantial amount of work yet to be completed in the coming weeks and months, which again should be viewed as no more than normal operational activity in a case of this size and complexity. This recent work is part of ensuring that all lines of enquiry are progressed in a systematic manner and covers just the one hypothesis that she was killed and buried locally. This is the same as would be done in the UK for a murder or high risk missing person enquiry. The scientific support staff involved were there to provide the highest level of assurance that this area was searched to the highest possible standards.

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Post  Chris on Wed 11 Jun - 19:33

mossman wrote: Notes to Editors
Operation Grange update



The material on this page is for media organisations only. Please do not publish links to this page.

This page was last updated on
11-Jun-2014 17:50

DMC Contacts




Operation Grange officers working alongside experts in their field from around the UK, the Policia Judicial and the Guarda Nacional Republicana today, Wednesday 11 June completed an eight day period of work searching specific areas of land in Praia da Luz.

At this time no evidence relating to Madeleine McCann has been identified. However it has given us an essential understanding of the activity on and people that have used this piece of land.

This was the first phase of this major investigation which has been agreed with the Portuguese following the four International Letters of Request submitted to date. More activity has been agreed and we expect that to commence shortly. In addition further requests are being compiled and will be submitted in due course.

The decision to search the “horse shoe” shaped piece of waste ground to the west of Praia da Luz and other sites was as a specific result of the UK’s investigation work to date.

The total area of land searched and surveyed was of approximately 60,000 sq metres and included all utilities, drainage channels and derelict buildings. 41 ground anomalies were identified initially by both aerial survey and ground analysis which were then investigated fully. These included three outside of the original area.

This deployment which was the largest ever undertaken by UK police overseas in a case of this type, highlighted the effective nature of the assistance given by the Portuguese authorities, for which the investigation team and family are very grateful.

The media’s understanding and co-operation following Assistant Commissioner Rowley’s pre deployment briefing has also been noted and appreciated.

There is still a substantial amount of work yet to be completed in the coming weeks and months, which again should be viewed as no more than normal operational activity in a case of this size and complexity. This recent work is part of ensuring that all lines of enquiry are progressed in a systematic manner and covers just the one hypothesis that she was killed and buried locally. This is the same as would be done in the UK for a murder or high risk missing person enquiry. The scientific support staff involved were there to provide the highest level of assurance that this area was searched to the highest possible standards.


To summarise - "We found nowt".

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Post  fuzeta on Wed 11 Jun - 19:45

Exactly     Did we expect otherwise?

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Post  Angelina on Wed 11 Jun - 19:48

fuzeta wrote:Exactly     Did we expect otherwise?

So that's it then....zilch, finito!

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Post  fuzeta on Wed 11 Jun - 20:10

  Angelina, yes s*d all. Talk about the keystone cops  

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 11 Jun - 20:30

This recent work is part of ensuring that all lines of enquiry are progressed in a systematic manner and covers just the one hypothesis that she was killed and buried locally.

They're not even considering an accident here.
And they have said that she may not have left 5A alive.
Put all that together and what do we have?
Murder (or at best manslaughter) in 5A and buried locally.
So ruling out abduction of a live child by a stranger (the pathetic conclusions of our skanky tabloids).

Well - what happens to the libel trial now?

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Post  fuzeta on Wed 11 Jun - 20:42

Hello almostgothic. I think with the libel trial is will be business as usual, with the McCann's saying they have not given up on finding her alive. They will need more money for the fund.

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 11 Jun - 20:46

Oh gawd - the wazzocks at the Star are at it again ...

They have not flown out to Portugal to oversee the search but remained at home in Rothley, Lancs.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/383365/Madeleine-McCann-search-No-evidence-found-say-Scotland-Yard

Hold the front page! A freak whirlwind has swept up Rothley and deposited it in Lancashire!
Rumours that Lancastrians have been seen trying to shove it back over the Pennines!

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