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Post  chrissie on Wed 11 Jun - 17:12

With thanks to Astro   

Monday 16 June at 9.30am

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Post  kitti on Wed 11 Jun - 17:15

Wonder if the mccanns will be there.



Sorry....money


Funny if it overlapped the digging and they just attended the libel trial.

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Post  Panda on Wed 11 Jun - 17:23

Well folks, it's all happening we'll be hard pushed to keep up to date

I wonder what the McCanns are thinking now, the search will be over tomorrow , there were only 3 sites earmarked and Redwood knows he can't do any more to disrupt the lives of the Portugese now that their message has probably gone viral   

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Post  tanszi on Wed 11 Jun - 17:38

sorry have I missed something what message has gone viral please ? oh sorry I know. not at my best today!

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Post  mossman on Wed 11 Jun - 18:09

Not sure if I misunderstand, but I thought the last word from the judge was that it would resume on 16th June if all legal teams were available. Has it been confirmed they are going ahead for sure on that day or will it be an application to postpone/confirm a new date ?

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Post  chrissie on Wed 11 Jun - 18:17

Astro has said it is going ahead. Apparently the legal teams canmake that date after all

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Post  mossman on Wed 11 Jun - 18:24

chrissie wrote:Astro has said it is going ahead. Apparently the legal teams canmake that date after all


Thank you Chrissie and Astro. Wow.   

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Post  interested on Wed 11 Jun - 18:26

kitti wrote:Wonder if the mccanns will be there.



Sorry....money


Funny if it overlapped the digging and they just attended the libel trial.



Didn't they "vow" not to return to Portugal unless Madeleine's DNA was discovered?

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Re: Date for libel trial to resume

Post  mossman on Wed 11 Jun - 18:28

interested wrote:
kitti wrote:Wonder if the mccanns will be there.



Sorry....money


Funny if it overlapped the digging and they just attended the libel trial.



Didn't they "vow" not to return to Portugal unless Madeleine's DNA was discovered?


Actually, weren't they TOLD to stay away while the digging was on, their defence for not going. So, do they do as they are told, or follow the money.

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Post  dazedandconfused on Wed 11 Jun - 18:28

tanszi wrote:sorry have I missed something what message has gone viral please ? oh sorry I know.  not at my best today!

There was something painted on a wall near where the latest searches are being undertaken and it said something along the lines of English Police being rubbish and the McCanns killed Madeleine. That's perhaps what was referred to.

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Post  chrissie on Wed 11 Jun - 18:29

tanszi wrote:sorry have I missed something what message has gone viral please ? oh sorry I know. not at my best today!

Hi tanzi, it's onthe thread by interested at 3.58pm. Parents killed madddie English police are stupid.

It was graffiti sprayed on a wall in PDL.

Hope you feel better soon :)

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 11 Jun - 18:31

Didn't the judge allow a statement by GM after all?
Mind you, I don't know if it is to be a written one, or if he has to turn up in person.

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Re: Date for libel trial to resume

Post  chrissie on Wed 11 Jun - 18:32

mossman wrote:
interested wrote:
kitti wrote:Wonder if the mccanns will be there.



Sorry....money


Funny if it overlapped the digging and they just attended the libel trial.



Didn't they "vow" not to return to Portugal unless Madeleine's DNA was discovered?


Actually, weren't they TOLD to stay away while the digging was on, their defence for not going. So, do they do as they are told, or follow the money.

Yes they were. What a dilemna for them....

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 11 Jun - 18:37

Joana Morais ‏@xklamation 13m

Trying to get the trial completely confirmed, please don't book flights yet. http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/06/mccann-couple-versus-goncalo-amaral.html … #McCann

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Post  kathybelle on Wed 11 Jun - 18:43

chrissie wrote:With thanks to Astro   

Monday 16 June at 9.30am

Thank you Chrissie and Astro.    

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Post  Panda on Wed 11 Jun - 18:59


Ward of Court: Decision issued by Judge in Libel Trial

1 Jun 2014






Judge rules that Kate and Gerry McCann do not possess the authority to sue Gonçalo Amaral in their daughter’s name.


The judge at the Civil Court of Lisbon who is trying the ‘libel’ case which Kate and Gerry McCann have filed against Gonçalo Amaral and 3 other parties has issued a decision concerning the matter of Madeleine McCann being a Ward of Court.

On the 3rd of January 2014, Gonçalo Amaral had argued before the Lisbon Court that Madeleine’s parents do not possess the necessary power to represent their daughter in this action, since the child had been made a Ward of Court in the United Kingdom.

The judge decided that Mr Amaral should present a certificate of the relevant British judicial ruling. That certificate was delivered to the Court on the 2nd of May, after a lengthy, expensive process.

The judge then had to decide whether or not Madeleine’s parents were entitled to represent their daughter in this lawsuit. In the judge’s recent ruling, it is mentioned that “within the 'Wardship', the High Court holds ultimate responsibility over the child, but it does not suppress or annul the exercise of the parental responsibilities”. The High Court takes control over “the most important decisions for the life” of the child. The judge further considers that “the decision to file a judicial action in the name of the child” is a decision “of the magnitude that is demanded for the agreement or consent of the court”.

The judge’s ruling further notes that the matters that have been brought before the High Court that holds the Wardship have been matters of an “eminently judiciary nature, like the revelation of confidential information and documents, that are related to the child’s disappearance and were in the possession of the local police”.

The text continues with the consideration that because Madeleine was made a Ward of the Court on the 2nd of April of 2008, her parents did not possess, in 2009, “the necessary capacity of representation of their daughter to file the present action without the authorization from the British court”.

Nevertheless, the judge has decided that the final court session, which will include a statement from Gerald McCann and the presentation of closing arguments from all sides, should take place regardless of the matter of the Wardship.

After that hearing is completed, the proceedings will be suspended for 30 days. During that period, Madeleine’s parents “shall arrange for the collection and documentation in the records of the British Court’s authorization for the bringing of this action on behalf of the minor Madeleine McCann”. If they fail to do so, the defendants will be “acquitted of the proceedings concerning the requests that have been formulated on behalf of the latter”.

The judge has proposed the date of 16th June for the final session, but each of the lawyers involved have the possibility of declining said date and suggesting alternative dates.

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There is no mention of her deducting any part of the E1.2 million claimed , no doubt that will be made in Court when it resumes on 16th June

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Post  chrissie on Thu 12 Jun - 13:26

Well they're going to be in Lisbon on Monday!         

http://news.sky.com/story/1280871/mccanns-search-shows-madeleine-may-be-alive

Meanwhile, Mr and Mrs McCann will return to Portugal on Monday to deliver statements to the libel trial of former Portuguese police chief Goncalo Amaral, who they are suing over claims in his book The Truth Of The Lie.

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Post  almostgothic on Thu 12 Jun - 14:37

Both of them?

I trust Lisbon is already preparing itself ......

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Post  kitti on Thu 12 Jun - 14:52

Told you they will go back for the money.....

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Post  almostgothic on Thu 12 Jun - 15:27

Couple are flying to Portugal for libel case of disgraced Portuguese detective

Spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: 'I can confirm that Kate and Gerry are planning to attend court in Lisbon on Monday when they will give their personal statements having successfully appealed to do so.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2656222/It-reinforces-belief-alive-Madeleine-McCanns-parents-positive-no-evidence-death-far-new-investigation.html#ixzz34R1vNsz4

Isn't it strange that, now Mitchell is being quoted in his own name again, Mr Amaral is once again being described as 'disgraced'?

B@st@rds.

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Post  quickfingers on Thu 12 Jun - 17:47

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccanns-parents-tell-court-3681476

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Post  Karen on Thu 12 Jun - 18:43

With special thanks to haroldd2 Jill Havern site   

According to this article published less than an hour ago on the Mirror's website, the McCanns are going to appear in court next week in the libel case.

Apparently "The couple won the latest round in their long legal battle to silence ex-police chief Goncalo Amaral - who claims they were responsible for Madeleine's death." (Their demand for £1million is only mentioned much further on.)

Moreover, "The pair will describe how the cruel and malicious lies from Amaral have caused them unnecessary grief and hampered the search for Madeleine."

You wouldn't be able to say that in a British newspaper if the libel case were in England.

And it gets more ridiculous. "They have both been granted permission to give emotional statements in a Lisbon court on Monday." (Really?)

"Kate, 46, and Gerry, 45, learned they will be allowed to speak in court shortly after they told of their renewed hope that their daughter could still be alive."

So it is looking as if the latest dig effort may have been to help with their PR. Either that or they will feel the strong arm of the law when they go to Portugal. I dearly hope it's the latter but think that's unlikely.

"A source close to the McCanns said: 'Finally it looks like drawing to a close and they are hopeful they can win the case.'"

"'They both want to see an end to it. The poisonous lies said against Kate and Gerry have caused them great distress and have hindered the search for Madeleine.'"

"'It will be the final stage of the trial and there is not expected to be any cross examination.'"

So the man they've taken to court and are demanding £1million from won't get, or won't want, a chance to test their personal evidence against him? And nor will the judge? Really?

"Kate and Gerry have applied to give declarations, the court has now agreed and they have been asked to be present in person on Monday."

"They will describe the impact that Mr Amaral's comments have had on them and the wider family."

"The judge will listen, assess it and retire to consider a verdict. It is the final stage of the court procedure but judgement will be reserved."

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Post  MaryB on Thu 12 Jun - 19:00

Well I suppose we'll have to wait and see what happens next. I'm not very optimistic of fairness I'm afraid.

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Post  jinvta on Thu 12 Jun - 19:12

I remain optimistic about this case, just as I did the book banning case. I think it was a very good idea by the judge to allow both the McCanns to speak in court, even if they are not allowed to be cross-examined. The reason being, is that it will be one less thing for the McCanns to complain about once they lose this frivolous lawsuit.

Given the amount of recent activitiy in Portugal, and the likelihood that SY was searching for a body still 7 years on, shows that Amaral's conclusions were not far fetched, and are clearly not hindering any search for Madeleine, dead or alive.

I also think that it is likely that one of the McCanns, or both, will put their foot in their mouth. They really just can't help themselves, can they?

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Post  wjk on Thu 12 Jun - 19:17

jinvta wrote:I remain optimistic about this case, just as I did the book banning case. I think it was a very good idea by the judge to allow both the McCanns to speak in court, even if they are not allowed to be cross-examined. The reason being, is that it will be one less thing for the McCanns to complain about once they lose this frivolous lawsuit.

Given the amount of recent activitiy in Portugal, and the likelihood that SY was searching for a body still 7 years on, shows that Amaral's conclusions were not far fetched, and are clearly not hindering any search for Madeleine, dead or alive.

I also think that it is likely that one of the McCanns, or both, will put their foot in their mouth. They really just can't help themselves, can they?
Agree with you 100% jinvta!   
I'm quite looking forward to it actually   

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