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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  kathybelle on Tue 17 Jun - 11:23

Panda wrote:
Thanks Karen , a bit muddled to understand but Amaral dismissed his Lawyers at 10pm on FRIDAY, plenty of time for him to phone Duarte and the Judge out of courtesy . Duarte would have been able to contact the McCanns . I think he his lost the plot and done himself no favours .

Panda

You have made your feelings quite clear that you dislike Goncalo Amaral and you've also made your feelings quite clear, that you are on the side of the McCanns and their lawyer Isobel Duarte. I don't give a stuff about your dislike of Goncalo Amaral, what I do give a stuff about, is your constant ridiculing of him, in your quest to make him look like an idiot.

For what it's worth, I don't even give a stuff that you are now on the side of the McCanns and Isobel Duarte. However I have to say that I don't understand how anyone can be on the side of these 3 people, when their main aim is, to steal as much money as they can from Goncalo Amaral, which will cause his wife and children, to be homeless and penniless. I honestly wonder why you are on here Panda, when you can find a pro McCann site, where posters will completely agree with your views. Even though your views are not based on facts.

As you can see, I've put some links on here, regarding the banning and the overturning of the ban, of Goncalo Amaral's book, "The Truth of the Lie" If you can be bothered to read the links, with your eyes wide open and you can comprehend the information in the links, you can't fail to see that this lawsuit should never have happened.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/10/mccann-book-ban-freedoom-has-returned.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/11/goncalo-amaral-accuses-mccann-lawyer-of.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/11/mccanns-appeal-to-supreme-court-to.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/03/by-margarida-davim-kate-and-gerry.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/05/seized-books-goncalo-amaral-denounces.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/03/mccann-case-judge-orders-immediate.html




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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  mossman on Tue 17 Jun - 11:30

Yesterday was a very good lesson for Mr Redwood. It showed at first hand how rattled and unhinged Kate in particular became when questioned without a script prepared well in advance and no spokesperson to be her mouth piece.

Gerry bless him has become confused. On the one hand Madeleine is the one being hurt by yesterday's events, on the other hand there is no evidence she is being harmed at all. Therefore, the abductor is a good person, not hurting his child, Amaral is a bad man, firing lawyers and hurting the child. He cannot deviate from the seven year old script and trips himself up when he needs to move away from it.

They are breakable, Redwood just needs the will to do it.



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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  wantthetruth on Tue 17 Jun - 11:37

kathybelle wrote:
Panda

You have made your feelings quite clear that you dislike Goncalo Amaral and you've also made your feelings quite clear, that you are on the side of the McCanns and their lawyer Isobel Duarte. I don't give a stuff about your dislike of Goncalo Amaral, what I do give a stuff about, is your constant ridiculing of him, in your quest to make him look like an idiot.

For what it's worth, I don't even give a stuff that you are now on the side of the McCanns and Isobel Duarte. However I have to say that I don't understand how anyone can be on the side of these 3 people, when their main aim is, to steal as much money as they can from Goncalo Amaral, which will cause his wife and children, to be homeless and penniless. I honestly wonder why you are on here Panda, when you can find a pro McCann site, where posters will completely agree with your views. Even though your views are not based on facts.

As you can see, I've put some links on here, regarding the banning and the overturning of the ban, of Goncalo Amaral's book, "The Truth of the Lie" If you can be bothered to read the links, with your eyes wide open and you can comprehend the information in the links, you can't fail to see that this lawsuit should never have happened.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/10/mccann-book-ban-freedoom-has-returned.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/11/goncalo-amaral-accuses-mccann-lawyer-of.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/11/mccanns-appeal-to-supreme-court-to.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/03/by-margarida-davim-kate-and-gerry.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/05/seized-books-goncalo-amaral-denounces.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/03/mccann-case-judge-orders-immediate.html




You're wasting keystrokes there kathybelle......

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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  kathybelle on Tue 17 Jun - 11:41

kathybelle wrote:
Panda wrote:
Thanks Karen , a bit muddled to understand but Amaral dismissed his Lawyers at 10pm on FRIDAY, plenty of time for him to phone Duarte and the Judge out of courtesy . Duarte would have been able to contact the McCanns . I think he his lost the plot and done himself no favours .

Panda

You have made your feelings quite clear that you dislike Goncalo Amaral and you've also made your feelings quite clear, that you are on the side of the McCanns and their lawyer Isobel Duarte. I don't give a stuff about your dislike of Goncalo Amaral, what I do give a stuff about, is your constant ridiculing of him, in your quest to make him look like an idiot.

For what it's worth, I don't even give a stuff that you are now on the side of the McCanns and Isobel Duarte. However I have to say that I don't understand how anyone can be on the side of these 3 people, when their main aim is, to steal as much money as they can from Goncalo Amaral, which will cause his wife and children, to be homeless and penniless. I honestly wonder why you are on here Panda, when you can find a pro McCann site, where posters will completely agree with your views. Even though your views are not based on facts.

As you can see, I've put some links on here, regarding the banning and the overturning of the ban, of Goncalo Amaral's book, "The Truth of the Lie" If you can be bothered to read the links, with your eyes wide open and you can comprehend the information in the links, you can't fail to see that this lawsuit should never have happened.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/10/mccann-book-ban-freedoom-has-returned.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/11/goncalo-amaral-accuses-mccann-lawyer-of.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/11/mccanns-appeal-to-supreme-court-to.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/03/by-margarida-davim-kate-and-gerry.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/05/seized-books-goncalo-amaral-denounces.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/03/mccann-case-judge-orders-immediate.html




Panda

I just want to remind you that this is a pro Madeleine forum. Anyone like yourself, who can make disparaging remarks about Goncalo Amaral, when he did so much to find out what happened to Madeleine, whilst faced with interference from the British and Portuguese Governments. Then come down on the side of the McCanns, knowing that they are the cause of whatever suffering Madeleine endured and her disappearance, is not a Madeleine supporter.

This is another reason why you should find a pro McCann site. The posters on those sites are only interested in the welfare of the McCanns, they're not interested in Madeleine or her siblings.

I'm sure you'll be much happier on one of those sites Panda, because you won't have to suffer the wrath from Madeleine supporters like myself, who want justice for Madeleine and the right people being brought to justice.


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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  kathybelle on Tue 17 Jun - 12:03

wantthetruth wrote:
kathybelle wrote:
Panda

You have made your feelings quite clear that you dislike Goncalo Amaral and you've also made your feelings quite clear, that you are on the side of the McCanns and their lawyer Isobel Duarte. I don't give a stuff about your dislike of Goncalo Amaral, what I do give a stuff about, is your constant ridiculing of him, in your quest to make him look like an idiot.

For what it's worth, I don't even give a stuff that you are now on the side of the McCanns and Isobel Duarte. However I have to say that I don't understand how anyone can be on the side of these 3 people, when their main aim is, to steal as much money as they can from Goncalo Amaral, which will cause his wife and children, to be homeless and penniless. I honestly wonder why you are on here Panda, when you can find a pro McCann site, where posters will completely agree with your views. Even though your views are not based on facts.

As you can see, I've put some links on here, regarding the banning and the overturning of the ban, of Goncalo Amaral's book, "The Truth of the Lie" If you can be bothered to read the links, with your eyes wide open and you can comprehend the information in the links, you can't fail to see that this lawsuit should never have happened.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/10/mccann-book-ban-freedoom-has-returned.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/11/goncalo-amaral-accuses-mccann-lawyer-of.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/11/mccanns-appeal-to-supreme-court-to.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/03/by-margarida-davim-kate-and-gerry.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/05/seized-books-goncalo-amaral-denounces.html

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2012/03/mccann-case-judge-orders-immediate.html




You're wasting keystrokes there kathybelle......

†wantthetruth

I know what you mean †† However I like to think my keystrokes haven't been entirely wasted, because there may be posters amongst us, who haven't seen the information in the links.

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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  mossman on Tue 17 Jun - 12:09


Hi Panda

Amaral has not been afforded any special treatment in the courts. The justice system is the system and a very very slow one at that. This is not unique to Portugal, it's the same in many places.

Had Amaral told the Judge on Friday, it would have made little difference IMO. The court would have to sit through the formalities anyway so the judge could make her ruling and there are other defendants in this case, who at this point in time, I believe were there. It has not been reported they were not. So another case would not have gone ahead anyway.

Amaral's lawyer has been quoted as saying he des not know why he was fired. That is very interesting. He could have said many things - no comment, it's private, we had a disagreement. To say he does not know means a conversation like

A. Morning mr lawyer, you are fired

L. Why

A. I'm not telling you

L. Ok so, bye

Without looking for false hope or conspiracy theories, maybe, just maybe, he was asked to do this and instructed not to tell anybody why, including the fired lawyer. Alternatively he may have wanted to delay the case on foot of something he knows is going to happen soon.

No decision would have been made by the judge yesterday, he had nothing to gain other than annoying people. I don't know him, but nothing I have ever seen or heard from him shows him to be a person who would do that. He knows what is in those files, the ones never released. I would be surprised if he were not privy to whats happening with the current investigation as well.

If there is a single person outside of the tapas group who knows about that week in PDL left on this earth, then it is him so when he pulls a stroke like yesterday I think it might be significant and certainly worth watching what happens next.








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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  wantthetruth on Tue 17 Jun - 12:12

mossman wrote:
Hi Panda

Amaral has not been afforded any special treatment in the courts. †The justice system is the system and a very very slow one at that. †This is not unique to Portugal, it's the same in many places.

Had Amaral told the Judge on Friday, it would have made little difference IMO. †The court would have to sit through the formalities anyway so the judge could make her ruling and there are other defendants in this case, who at this point in time, I believe were there. †It has not been reported they were not. †So another case would not have gone ahead anyway.

Amaral's lawyer has been quoted as saying he des not know why he was fired. †That is very interesting. †He could have said many things - no comment, it's private, we had a disagreement. †To say he does not know means a conversation like

A. † Morning mr lawyer, you are fired

L. † †Why

A. † †I'm not telling you

L. † †Ok so, bye

Without looking for false hope or conspiracy theories, maybe, just maybe, he was asked to do this and instructed not to tell anybody why, including the fired lawyer. †Alternatively he may have wanted to delay the case on foot of something he knows is going to happen soon.

No decision would have been made by the judge yesterday, he had nothing to gain other than annoying people. †I don't know him, but nothing I have ever seen or heard from him shows him to be a person who would do that. †He knows what is in those files, the ones never released. †I would be surprised if he were not privy to whats happening with the current investigation as well.

If there is a single person outside of the tapas group who knows about that week in PDL left on this earth, then it is him so when he pulls a stroke like yesterday I think it might be significant and certainly worth watching what happens next.









† well said

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Post  tanszi on Tue 17 Jun - 12:13

add me to that please, well said.

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Post  Guest on Tue 17 Jun - 15:39

fred wrote:I think he played a blinder. †Amaral owes nothing to the Mccanns, and I hope in 10 days time, he can find something to delay it again! †The Mccanns have had it their way from the begining, and it only now after 7 long years that public opinion is turning against them!

I think he should re-hire the lawyer. Can you just picture Kate's face! †

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Post  wjk on Tue 17 Jun - 15:41

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fred wrote:I think he played a blinder. †Amaral owes nothing to the Mccanns, and I hope in 10 days time, he can find something to delay it again! †The Mccanns have had it their way from the begining, and it only now after 7 long years that public opinion is turning against them!

I think he should re-hire the lawyer. †Can you just picture Kate's face! †
I think he will! Seriously!

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Post  wantthetruth on Tue 17 Jun - 15:45

wjk wrote:
Iris wrote:
fred wrote:I think he played a blinder. †Amaral owes nothing to the Mccanns, and I hope in 10 days time, he can find something to delay it again! †The Mccanns have had it their way from the begining, and it only now after 7 long years that public opinion is turning against them!

I think he should re-hire the lawyer. †Can you just picture Kate's face! †
I think he will! Seriously!

Me too!

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Post  kitti on Tue 17 Jun - 16:23

9.00am....'your fired'



9.01am....'your hired'

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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  fred on Tue 17 Jun - 16:42

Poor kate, she has to bewk her hotel, bewk her flight, and bewk childcare, and all along she wrote a bewk! I'm confused!

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Post  mossman on Tue 17 Jun - 16:47

Iris wrote:
fred wrote:I think he played a blinder. †Amaral owes nothing to the Mccanns, and I hope in 10 days time, he can find something to delay it again! †The Mccanns have had it their way from the begining, and it only now after 7 long years that public opinion is turning against them!

I think he should re-hire the lawyer. †Can you just picture Kate's face! †




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Post  Claudia79 on Tue 17 Jun - 16:55

Iris wrote:
fred wrote:I think he played a blinder. †Amaral owes nothing to the Mccanns, and I hope in 10 days time, he can find something to delay it again! †The Mccanns have had it their way from the begining, and it only now after 7 long years that public opinion is turning against them!

I think he should re-hire the lawyer. †Can you just picture Kate's face! †

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Post  Claudia79 on Tue 17 Jun - 16:58

Let's get something straight: the judge decided to postpone the session. Not anyone else. If the McCanns are going to address the court and not give evidence, they will not be cross examined. That means that if the judge decided so they could have addressed the court yesterday without the need for the session to be postponed. If she decided she should postpone it for 10 days, it's her decision so the McCanns have to complain to the judge or stuff it.

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Post  almostgothic on Tue 17 Jun - 17:03

Exactly! †

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Post  tanszi on Tue 17 Jun - 17:11

love it Claudia79 stuff it!

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Post  interested on Tue 17 Jun - 18:12

Claudia79 wrote:Let's get something straight: the judge decided to postpone the session. Not anyone else. If the McCanns are going to address the court and not give evidence, they will not be cross examined. That means that if the judge decided so they could have addressed the court yesterday without the need for the session to be postponed. If she decided she should postpone it for 10 days, it's her decision so the McCanns have to complain to the judge or stuff it.



Thanks Claudia for that explanation. I wish we could get the UK press to read the 'memo'.

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Post  wantthetruth on Tue 17 Jun - 18:34

Claudia79 wrote:Let's get something straight: the judge decided to postpone the session. Not anyone else. If the McCanns are going to address the court and not give evidence, they will not be cross examined. That means that if the judge decided so they could have addressed the court yesterday without the need for the session to be postponed. If she decided she should postpone it for 10 days, it's her decision so the McCanns have to complain to the judge or stuff it.

Exactly what I said earlier on in the thread. They should complain about the Judge instead of whinging about Amaral.

And where the hell did they get that tripe about him postponing it four times?

Total blatant lies!!

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Post  pennylane on Tue 17 Jun - 18:39

Looks like poor old Operation Grange are going to have to hustle up yet another useless piece of drama immediately prior to the next court date. †It's most inconvenient for Kate, Gerry and Andy when this happens as it totally scuppers the rhythm of their facade.

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Post  interested on Tue 17 Jun - 20:58

She has displayed her true colours (again) - she says she has forgiven Madeleine's "abductor" but has a meltdown on the steps of the courthouse because the judge has delayed her potential payday.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Tue 17 Jun - 22:27

http://mccannfiles.com/id232.html

The truth of the lie (to coin a phrase) about the postponements all being the fault of Mr Amaral.

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Post  duncanmac on Wed 18 Jun - 5:16

interested wrote:She has displayed her true colours (again) - she says she has forgiven Madeleine's "abductor"

I am sure it is quite easy to forgive someone who doesnt exist

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