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Post  mossman on Wed 18 Jun - 18:07

Panda wrote:
interested wrote:Together with her moan about having to make childcare arrangements, she added "we have to take time off work".  WE??? do her ambassadorial duties keep her busy full time?  Is this 'work' considered a 'job'?

As far as I know interested Kate's only "job" is the Missing children one, Gerry arrived a day after Kate so probably only needed a couple of days. Why the 11th hour request to make a Statement, could it because SY did not find any evidence which strengthened the McCann claim that Madeleine could still be alive.



It was not an 11th hour request. They made an application to the court some time ago to be allowed speak. The application was refused, the appealed and were granted permission on appeal.

Pamalam posted a really useful and helpful link to Anne Guedes reports from the court going right back here yesterday, it's just a few topics down. It's a super source of information and explains the court hearings.



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Post  kathybelle on Wed 18 Jun - 18:41

Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.

Thank you Claudia    I also thought Snr Amaral was a qualified lawyer, although not a practicing one. Can you please tell me if his daughter Sophia, who also has a law degree, is a practicing lawyer?




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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  Claudia79 on Wed 18 Jun - 19:20

kathybelle wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.

Thank you Claudia     I also thought Snr Amaral was a qualified lawyer, although not a practicing one. Can you please tell me if his daughter Sophia, who also has a law degree, is a practicing lawyer?


I'm not sure, Kathybelle.

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Post  duncanmac on Wed 18 Jun - 19:22

Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.

Thank you Claudia, I stand corrected, next time you see Mr Amaral, let him know he has many supporters in the UK

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Post  Guest on Wed 18 Jun - 19:32

Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.
The correct title I believe is DOCTOR Amaral as he has a Doctorate in Law.

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Post  LJC on Wed 18 Jun - 19:41

Panda wrote:I really don't know what is going on here. The Judge said that the 17th January was meant to be a closing and she would have presumably reached a verdict. . Five months down the line we are told the McCanns will make a Statement not necessarily needing a response. When permission to make this Statement was given  one assumes Amaral's Lawyers were notified at the time , so why the 11th hour dismissal ????

The 17th January was for closing submissions/arguments/summing up, call it what you will. It just means its near the end, but does not mean its the date a verdict will be declared by the Judge. Nigel Moore wrote an excellent piece on the adjournments in this case, which you yourself posted on another thread, so must have read. Which parts of it could you not understand? I thought it was child's play to read and explained things quite clearly.

And the 11th hour statement you refer to, what statement would that be?

The only 11th hour event was Mr Amaral sacking his legal team and the fact that that resulted in an adjournment had nothing to do with Mr Amaral, for it was the decision of the Judge and the Judge alone.

Hopefully when we get to 8th-10th July the closing submissions can be made, the McCanns can state their side of things (victim impact statements) and Mr Amaral's new legal team can sum up on his behalf also.

Then the Judge may give her verdict, not necessarily on those dates in July though; the Judge may decide to keep us waiting a bit longer if the Judge decides its best and only the Judge decides.

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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  Guest on Wed 18 Jun - 20:24

Let's get this straight. Dr Amaral has behaved like a gentleman throughout. He owes the McCanns, or their reptilian lawyer, NOTHING.

Who asked for the trial to be held in camera as a courtesy to the memory of Maddie, and who insisted it be open?
Who held on to Dr Amaral's books for many, many months after a court ordered that they be returned?
Who has had their bank account and all their assets frozen for the past five years?
Who was ordered to sell the family home and split up the joint assets?
Who gives press conferences, whining, lying and bitching in front of the court, when they don't get their own way?
Who has wished another person to be miserable and feel fear?
Who has said that they don't care whether someone's children - who are innocent parties in all this - are suffering?

If there is any courtesy or apologies that ought to be forthcoming, then it's certainly not from Dr Amaral.

It'll never happen, though.

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 18 Jun - 20:34

  

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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  wjk on Wed 18 Jun - 20:38

I second that!
He IS a true gent!
They on the other hand, have treated him like sh*t on their shoe!
He owes them nothing. Not now, not ever!!!

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Post  MaryB on Wed 18 Jun - 21:02

He is certainly very courageous and has behaved with dignity. I wonder if we'll find out why he dismissed his legal team. Maybe he will apply to speak as well now the McCanns have. I'm sure I read ages ago that neither side had asked to speak and then the McCanns did.

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Post  kathybelle on Wed 18 Jun - 21:32

Iris wrote:Let's get this straight.  Dr Amaral has behaved like a gentleman throughout.  He owes the McCanns, or their reptilian lawyer, NOTHING.

Who asked for the trial to be held in camera as a courtesy to the memory of Maddie, and who insisted it be open?
Who held on to Dr Amaral's books for many, many months after a court ordered that they be returned?
Who has had their bank account and all their assets frozen for the past five years?
Who was ordered to sell the family home and split up the joint assets?
Who gives press conferences, whining, lying and bitching in front of the court, when they don't get their own way?
Who has wished another person to be miserable and feel fear?
Who has said that they don't care whether someone's children - who are innocent parties in all this - are suffering?

If there is any courtesy or apologies that ought to be forthcoming, then it's certainly not from Dr Amaral.

It'll never happen, though.

  Well said Iris.   

My blood boils when I read such nasty comments about Snr Amaral.

If Madeleine was alive, she would be proud to have Snr Amaral fighting her corner. He has been more of a family to her, than her genetic family, all they've done is used her as a cash cow, everything he has done he has done to get justice for her.

Her apology for a mother, wrote her book of sex and lies, in the pretext that all the money would be spent on Madeleine's searches and we all know how that money has been spent don't we.

Snr Amaral was forced to write a book, it was the only way he could state what really happened in that investigation and we all know what happened there don't we.

I think it's a travesty of justice that Snr Amaral's bank accounts are still frozen. The ban on his book was overturned in the Appeals Court and the Supreme Court stated that the ban must remain overturned. I don't understand why his bank accounts should remain frozen.

He can't even sell his book, thanks to the spineless book publishers, who would rather sell the sex and lies book of Kate McCann. The woman who along with her husband was the root cause of her daughter Madeleine's disappearance.

What kind of world are we living in, when people like Gerry and Kate McCann are being lauded and protected by people who should be upholding the law?

What kind of world are we living in when Kate McCann can become an ambassador for missing children? When she has a track record for not looking after her own 3 children.

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Post  dutchclogs on Wed 18 Jun - 21:44

yes well said everybody , Mr Amaral is a true gent       

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Post  kathybelle on Wed 18 Jun - 22:00

Panda wrote:
Not Born Yesterday wrote:Some people think she might be the webmaster on the Official Find Madeleine Facebook page so that must keep her busy deleting reasonable questions.

Hi NBY  It's like being on a rollercoaster trying to understand what's going on , one minute we are on a high , the next feeling down , I really thought this was going to be endgame . I think Amaral's book is still selling so he can't be that broke.

Panda

When are you going to give up making snide comments about Goncalo Amaral? You haven't a clue whether Goncalo Amaral's book is selling or not, all you are doing is basing what you think, as fact, which is something you've been doing since you started making your snide comments about him.

By the way Panda, Goncalo Amaral has two books for sale, 'The Truth of the Lie' and The English Gag.' If the books are selling, I hope he is allowed to keep every penny of the profits he makes from the books. He needs the money, thanks to the McCanns lawyer, successfully requesting his bank accounts were frozen, back in 2009.

In case you've forgotten, Goncalo Amaral has a wife and two young children to support. Although word has it that he is now divorced, he will still have to support his two daughters and maybe his wife if she is now his ex wife. Remember this the next time you decide to make snide comments about Goncalo Amaral's finances.



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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  Panda on Wed 18 Jun - 22:46

LJC wrote:
Panda wrote:I really don't know what is going on here. The Judge said that the 17th January was meant to be a closing and she would have presumably reached a verdict. . Five months down the line we are told the McCanns will make a Statement not necessarily needing a response. When permission to make this Statement was given  one assumes Amaral's Lawyers were notified at the time , so why the 11th hour dismissal ????

The 17th January was for closing submissions/arguments/summing up, call it what you will.  It just means its near the end, but does not mean its the date a verdict will be declared by the Judge.  Nigel Moore wrote an excellent piece on the adjournments in this case, which you yourself posted on another thread, so must have read.  Which parts of it could you not understand?  I thought it was child's play to read and explained things quite clearly.

And the 11th hour statement you refer to, what statement would that be?  

The only 11th hour event was Mr Amaral sacking his legal team and the fact that that resulted in an adjournment had nothing to do with Mr Amaral, for it was the decision of the Judge and the Judge alone.

Hopefully when we get to 8th-10th July the closing submissions can be made, the McCanns can state their side of things (victim impact statements) and Mr Amaral's new legal team can sum up on his behalf also.  

Then the Judge may give her verdict, not necessarily on those dates in July though; the Judge may decide to keep us waiting a bit longer if the Judge decides its best and only the Judge decides.

Thanks LJC, to be honest, with what is going on in the rest of the World I am putting the McCann case on the back burner, the horrors of Iraq and the refugee crisis around the World is far more important to. me ..

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Re: Mccanns angry over cynical libel trial delay

Post  Claudia79 on Thu 19 Jun - 1:25

Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.
The correct title I believe is DOCTOR Amaral as he has a Doctorate in Law.

Actually, Iris, everybody who has a degree here is called doctor (silly, I know). But I think GA has a masters, not a PhD.

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Post  Claudia79 on Thu 19 Jun - 1:27

duncanmac wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.

Thank you Claudia, I stand corrected, next time you see Mr Amaral, let him know he has many supporters in the UK

Thanks, Duncanmac. He knows.

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Post  Guest on Thu 19 Jun - 9:18

Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.
The correct title I believe is DOCTOR Amaral as he has a Doctorate in Law.

Actually, Iris, everybody who has a degree here is called doctor (silly, I know). But I think GA has a masters, not a PhD.

I stand corrected! But he is still called DOCTOR and should be referred to with his proper title. The McCanns don't have doctorates either. They have degrees in medicine, which entitles them to be called Doctor so it's kind of the same thing. Their degrees are no better than Dr Amarals, just before anybody starts getting all snobby about it.   

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Post  kathybelle on Thu 19 Jun - 10:01

Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.
The correct title I believe is DOCTOR Amaral as he has a Doctorate in Law.

Actually, Iris, everybody who has a degree here is called doctor (silly, I know). But I think GA has a masters, not a PhD.

I stand corrected!  But he is still called DOCTOR and should be referred to with his proper title.  The McCanns don't have doctorates either.  They have degrees in medicine, which entitles them to be called Doctor so it's kind of the same thing.  Their degrees are no better than Dr Amarals, just before anybody starts getting all snobby about it.   

Good morning Iris  

I once read that Gerry McCann is classed as Mister, now he is a Consultant.

I have a title for this vile creep, which is a more suitable title than Mister. Unfortunately I'd have to resort to the same gutter language that he and his equally vile wife use, if I put the word on here. By the way because I believe in equality for men and women, I have given her the same title.

When I've listened to the McCanns speak, and witnessed their behaviour, when things are not going their way, I wonder how the pair of them ever managed to get a degree in medicine, let alone jobs in medicine.

We all know that Goncalo Amaral, has been put through the mill by the McCanns, the British media and others, who for reasons best known to themselves, support the McCanns. He has never once lost his rag when he has been interviewed, he has behaved in a dignified way throughout.

One of the reasons he behaves this way, is because he has been brought up to behave this way. However in my opinion, he also behaves this way, because he doesn't want to be an embarrassment to his children and he wants to show them, that it is always better to behave in a dignified way, when things aren't going the way they should do.




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Post  jassi on Thu 19 Jun - 12:49

kathybelle wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.
The correct title I believe is DOCTOR Amaral as he has a Doctorate in Law.

Actually, Iris, everybody who has a degree here is called doctor (silly, I know). But I think GA has a masters, not a PhD.

I stand corrected!  But he is still called DOCTOR and should be referred to with his proper title.  The McCanns don't have doctorates either.  They have degrees in medicine, which entitles them to be called Doctor so it's kind of the same thing.  Their degrees are no better than Dr Amarals, just before anybody starts getting all snobby about it.   

Good morning Iris  

I once read that Gerry McCann is classed as Mister, now he is a Consultant.

I have a title for this vile creep, which is a more suitable  title than Mister. Unfortunately I'd have to resort to the same gutter language that he and his equally vile wife use, if I put the word on here. By the way because I believe in equality for men and women, I have given her the same title.

When I've listened to the McCanns speak, and witnessed their behaviour, when things are not going their way, I wonder how the pair of them ever managed to get a degree in medicine, let alone jobs in medicine.

We all know that Goncalo Amaral, has been put through the mill by the McCanns, the British media and others, who for reasons best known to themselves, support the McCanns. He has never once lost his rag when he has been interviewed, he has behaved in a dignified way throughout.

One of the reasons he behaves this way, is because he has been brought up to behave this way. However in my opinion,  he also behaves this way, because he doesn't want to be an embarrassment to his children and he wants to show them, that it is always better to behave in a dignified way, when things aren't going the way they should do.




Wrong. Only surgeons are referred to as Mr. Gerry is a Physician.

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Post  Claudia79 on Thu 19 Jun - 16:16

Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.
The correct title I believe is DOCTOR Amaral as he has a Doctorate in Law.

Actually, Iris, everybody who has a degree here is called doctor (silly, I know). But I think GA has a masters, not a PhD.

I stand corrected!  But he is still called DOCTOR and should be referred to with his proper title.  The McCanns don't have doctorates either.  They have degrees in medicine, which entitles them to be called Doctor so it's kind of the same thing.  Their degrees are no better than Dr Amarals, just before anybody starts getting all snobby about it.   

Personally, I dislike titles. There's a cultural reason why here everybody with a degree is called 'Doutor'. Before we were a democracy only very few people were able to go to University because only rich people could afford it. They were all called 'Doutores' because it was rare and it was kind of a deference. Fortunately, things have changed a lot. Since we became a democracy education was guaranteed to everybody, with or without money, and those who couldn't afford Uni were given scholarships so the financial situation wouldn't stop anyone from studying if they wished so. Many people started going to Uni, many people had degrees and it was 'established' that if the rich ones from the past were called 'doutores' so should all the others. Personally I think that tittle should only be given to Medical doctors and people with PhDs. But it's a lost cause because as much as I repeat that my name is Cláudia, as soon as it is know that I have an academic background, there the 'doutora' comes. I know a very sweet man who owns a newsagent shop and who knows me since I was about twelve. He saw me grow up and he knew I went to Uni. Once he bumped into my mother and she told him I had already finished Uni. From that moment on I was 'senhora doutora' although every time he called me that I told him 'It's Cláudia'. One of those times when he called me 'doutora' I told him 'my name is Cláudia' to which he replied 'I'm sorry, doutora Cláudia.'   

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Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 19 Jun - 16:49

Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.
The correct title I believe is DOCTOR Amaral as he has a Doctorate in Law.

Actually, Iris, everybody who has a degree here is called doctor (silly, I know). But I think GA has a masters, not a PhD.

I stand corrected!  But he is still called DOCTOR and should be referred to with his proper title.  The McCanns don't have doctorates either.  They have degrees in medicine, which entitles them to be called Doctor so it's kind of the same thing.  Their degrees are no better than Dr Amarals, just before anybody starts getting all snobby about it.   

Personally, I dislike titles. There's a cultural reason why here everybody with a degree is called 'Doutor'. Before we were a democracy only very few people were able to go to University because only rich people could afford it. They were all called 'Doutores' because it was rare and it was kind of a deference. Fortunately, things have changed a lot. Since we became a democracy education was guaranteed to everybody, with or without money, and those who couldn't afford Uni were given scholarships so the financial situation wouldn't stop anyone from studying if they wished so. Many people started going to Uni, many people had degrees and it was 'established' that if the rich ones from the past were called 'doutores' so should all the others. Personally I think that tittle should only be given to Medical doctors and people with PhDs. But it's a lost cause because as much as I repeat that my name is Cláudia, as soon as it is know that I have an academic background, there the 'doutora' comes. I know a very sweet man who owns a newsagent shop and who knows me since I was about twelve. He saw me grow up and he knew I went to Uni. Once he bumped into my mother and she told him I had already finished Uni. From that moment on I was 'senhora doutora' although every time he called me that I told him 'It's Cláudia'. One of those times when he called me 'doutora' I told him 'my name is Cláudia' to which he replied 'I'm sorry, doutora Cláudia.'    


I was a student at the time when it was possible to get a grant rather than a loan to study in England. As part of my course, I was funded to spend some time at the university of Caen in Normandy. We English students all had grants which paid for dinner tickets every day we were there. It soon became clear to us that there were a lot of poor French students, who didn't have the luxury of a grant because when we took our lunch trays back, there were students waiting to pick trays off that still had food on them. We spoke to a few of them and they said it was the only way they got a meal and paid their tuition fees.

The lunch buffet was for an all-in price and it was help yourself. So we did! We would heap our plates up with extra food that we put to one side. That way, the waiting French students got some food that hadn't been touched!

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Post  Claudia79 on Thu 19 Jun - 17:09

AnnaEsse wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
duncanmac wrote: I dont believe there has been any fallout,I think the dismissal of his lawyer was an agreed tactic as Mr Amaral, as a qualified lawyer is probably capable of giving his own summing up.

GA has a degree in law. He isn't a lawyer.
The correct title I believe is DOCTOR Amaral as he has a Doctorate in Law.

Actually, Iris, everybody who has a degree here is called doctor (silly, I know). But I think GA has a masters, not a PhD.

I stand corrected!  But he is still called DOCTOR and should be referred to with his proper title.  The McCanns don't have doctorates either.  They have degrees in medicine, which entitles them to be called Doctor so it's kind of the same thing.  Their degrees are no better than Dr Amarals, just before anybody starts getting all snobby about it.   

Personally, I dislike titles. There's a cultural reason why here everybody with a degree is called 'Doutor'. Before we were a democracy only very few people were able to go to University because only rich people could afford it. They were all called 'Doutores' because it was rare and it was kind of a deference. Fortunately, things have changed a lot. Since we became a democracy education was guaranteed to everybody, with or without money, and those who couldn't afford Uni were given scholarships so the financial situation wouldn't stop anyone from studying if they wished so. Many people started going to Uni, many people had degrees and it was 'established' that if the rich ones from the past were called 'doutores' so should all the others. Personally I think that tittle should only be given to Medical doctors and people with PhDs. But it's a lost cause because as much as I repeat that my name is Cláudia, as soon as it is know that I have an academic background, there the 'doutora' comes. I know a very sweet man who owns a newsagent shop and who knows me since I was about twelve. He saw me grow up and he knew I went to Uni. Once he bumped into my mother and she told him I had already finished Uni. From that moment on I was 'senhora doutora' although every time he called me that I told him 'It's Cláudia'. One of those times when he called me 'doutora' I told him 'my name is Cláudia' to which he replied 'I'm sorry, doutora Cláudia.'    


I was a student at the time when it was possible to get a grant rather than a loan to study in England. As part of my course, I was funded to spend some time at the university of Caen in Normandy. We English students all had grants which paid for dinner tickets every day we were there. It soon became clear to us that there were a lot of poor French students, who didn't have the luxury of a grant because when we took our lunch trays back, there were students waiting to pick trays off that still had food on them. We spoke to a few of them and they said it was the only way they got a meal and paid their tuition fees.

The lunch buffet was for an all-in price and it was help yourself. So we did! We would heap our plates up with extra food that we put to one side. That way, the waiting French students got some food that hadn't been touched!

  

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Post  kathybelle on Thu 19 Jun - 18:46

jassi wrote:
kathybelle wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:
The correct title I believe is DOCTOR Amaral as he has a Doctorate in Law.

Actually, Iris, everybody who has a degree here is called doctor (silly, I know). But I think GA has a masters, not a PhD.

I stand corrected!  But he is still called DOCTOR and should be referred to with his proper title.  The McCanns don't have doctorates either.  They have degrees in medicine, which entitles them to be called Doctor so it's kind of the same thing.  Their degrees are no better than Dr Amarals, just before anybody starts getting all snobby about it.   

Good morning Iris  

I once read that Gerry McCann is classed as Mister, now he is a Consultant.

I have a title for this vile creep, which is a more suitable  title than Mister. Unfortunately I'd have to resort to the same gutter language that he and his equally vile wife use, if I put the word on here. By the way because I believe in equality for men and women, I have given her the same title.

When I've listened to the McCanns speak, and witnessed their behaviour, when things are not going their way, I wonder how the pair of them ever managed to get a degree in medicine, let alone jobs in medicine.

We all know that Goncalo Amaral, has been put through the mill by the McCanns, the British media and others, who for reasons best known to themselves, support the McCanns. He has never once lost his rag when he has been interviewed, he has behaved in a dignified way throughout.

One of the reasons he behaves this way, is because he has been brought up to behave this way. However in my opinion,  he also behaves this way, because he doesn't want to be an embarrassment to his children and he wants to show them, that it is always better to behave in a dignified way, when things aren't going the way they should do.




Wrong. Only surgeons are referred to as Mr.  Gerry is a Physician.

Hi Jassi

Thank you, for putting me right. I read that Gerry McCann was addressed as Mr., on a forum and that was because someone called him a doctor and another poster said that as a hospital consultant he was addressed as Mr.

However in my opinion, Gerry McCann isn't worthy of any title within medicine, in fact he should not be working in medicine. Along with his wife, he has portrayed a cavalier attitude towards Madeleine's disappearance and if he can portray that kind of an attitude towards Madeleine, especially when along with his wife, he is the root cause of her disappearance, then I shudder to think what kind of an attitude he has towards patients in his care.

When Gerry McCann, returned to work, as an arguido, his boss publicly stated, that he would not take part in the day to day care of patients, he would be working on a project. I like to think that if he is still employed in that hospital, he is still not taking part in the day to day care of patients.


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Post  malena stool on Thu 19 Jun - 19:18

kathybelle wrote:
jassi wrote:
kathybelle wrote:
Iris wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:

Actually, Iris, everybody who has a degree here is called doctor (silly, I know). But I think GA has a masters, not a PhD.

I stand corrected!  But he is still called DOCTOR and should be referred to with his proper title.  The McCanns don't have doctorates either.  They have degrees in medicine, which entitles them to be called Doctor so it's kind of the same thing.  Their degrees are no better than Dr Amarals, just before anybody starts getting all snobby about it.   

Good morning Iris  

I once read that Gerry McCann is classed as Mister, now he is a Consultant.

I have a title for this vile creep, which is a more suitable  title than Mister. Unfortunately I'd have to resort to the same gutter language that he and his equally vile wife use, if I put the word on here. By the way because I believe in equality for men and women, I have given her the same title.

When I've listened to the McCanns speak, and witnessed their behaviour, when things are not going their way, I wonder how the pair of them ever managed to get a degree in medicine, let alone jobs in medicine.

We all know that Goncalo Amaral, has been put through the mill by the McCanns, the British media and others, who for reasons best known to themselves, support the McCanns. He has never once lost his rag when he has been interviewed, he has behaved in a dignified way throughout.

One of the reasons he behaves this way, is because he has been brought up to behave this way. However in my opinion,  he also behaves this way, because he doesn't want to be an embarrassment to his children and he wants to show them, that it is always better to behave in a dignified way, when things aren't going the way they should do.




Wrong. Only surgeons are referred to as Mr.  Gerry is a Physician.

Hi Jassi

Thank you, for putting me right. I read that Gerry McCann was addressed as Mr., on a forum and that was because someone called him a doctor and another poster said that as a hospital consultant he was addressed as  Mr.

However in my opinion, Gerry McCann isn't worthy of any title within medicine, in fact he should not be working in medicine. Along with his wife, he has portrayed a cavalier attitude towards Madeleine's disappearance and if he can portray that kind of an attitude towards Madeleine, especially when along with his wife, he is the root cause of her disappearance, then I shudder to think what kind of an attitude he has towards patients in his care.

When Gerry McCann, returned to work, as an arguido, his boss publicly stated, that he would not take part in the day to day care of patients, he would be working on a project. I like to think that if he is still employed in that hospital, he is still not taking part in the day to day care of patients.

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MB ChB University of Glasgow, 1992
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Pathophysiological consequences of myocardial dysfunction
Cardiac imaging especially cardiac MRI

Assessment of myocardial function (both left and right ventricular)/remodeling

External Positions

Royal College of Physicians Representative on the Health Protection Agency- Medical Practices Subcommittee on CT scanning in Asymptomatic Subjects. April 2006-June 2008

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Inaugural Council Member British Heart Valve Society (BHVS) 2010-present

Key Publications

McCann GP, Steadman CD, Ray SG, Newby DE; on behalf of the British Heart Valve Society. Managing the asymptomatic patient with severe aortic stenosis: randomised controlled trials of early surgery are overdue. Heart. 2011 Jul 97 14 1119-21

Steadman CD, Ray S, Ng LL, McCann GP. Natriuretic peptides in common valvular heart disease. J Am Coll Cardiol. 2010 May 11 55 19 2034-48

Nijveldt R, Germans T, McCann GP, Beek AM, van Rossum AC. Semi-quantitative assessment of right ventricular function in comparison to a 3D volumetric approach: a cardiovascular magnetic resonance study. Eur Radiol. 2008 Nov;18(11):2399-405. Epub 2008 Jun 4.

McCann GP, Van Dockum WG, Beek AM, Nijveldt R, Ten Cate FJ, Ten Berg JM, Van Rossum AC. Extent of myocardial infarction and reverse remodeling assessed by cardiac magnetic resonance in patients with and without right bundle branch block following alcohol septal ablation for obstructive hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Am J Cardiol. 2007 Feb 15;99(4):563-7. Epub 2007 Jan 2.

McCann GP, Gan CT, Beek AM, Niessen HW, Vonk Noordegraaf A, van Rossum AC. Extent of MRI delayed enhancement of myocardial mass is related to right ventricular dysfunction in pulmonary artery hypertension. AJR Am J Roentgenol. 2007 Feb;188(2):349-55.

Bondarenko O, Beek AM, Nijveldt R, McCann GP, van Dockum WG, Hofman MB, Twisk JW, Visser CA, van Rossum AC.  Functional outcome after revascularization in patients with chronic ischemic heart disease: a quantitative late gadolinium enhancement CMR study evaluating transmural scar extent, wall thickness and periprocedural necrosis. J Cardiovasc Magn Reson. 2007;9(5):815-21.

Gan CT, McCann GP, Marcus JT, van Wolferen SA, Twisk JW, Boonstra A, Postmus PE, Vonk-Noordegraaf A. NT-proBNP reflects right ventricular structure and function in pulmonary hypertension. Eur Respir J. 2006 Dec;28(6):1190-4. Epub 2006 Sep 13.

McCann GP, Beek AM, Vonk-Noordegraaf A, van Rossum AC. Delayed contrast-enhanced magnetic resonance imaging in pulmonary arterial hypertension. Circulation. 2005 Oct 18;112(16):e268.

McCann GP, Hillis WS. Surgery in asymptomatic aortic stenosis. BMJ. 2004 Jan 10;328(7431):63-4.

McCann GP, Muir DF, Hillis WS. Athletic left ventricular hypertrophy: long-term studies are required. Eur Heart J. 2000 Mar;21(5):351-3.

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