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Priorities in leaving no stones unturned

Post  Chris on Thu 17 Jul - 9:45

One wonders how long SY and Mr Cameron can justify the 30 odd squad of detectives and support working on Grange given its singular lack of substantive results after 3 years. By comparison SY have deployed 7 detectives to investigate allegations of historic child abuse by those who claim to govern us.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2681117/Cameron-orders-probe-happened-missing-dossier-alleged-paedophile-activity-Westminster-1980s.html

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Post  tanszi on Thu 17 Jul - 11:35

Chris I made the same point in a post to Daily Mail but it wasn't published. I also made the same point on the petition to Government launched by Tom Watson and others. Got a thank you for it. Watson, Danzuk and others are doing their utmost to have this investigation, why has SY only given so few officers to it and 30 odd to the Madeleine McCann investigation, needs answering.

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Post  wjk on Thu 17 Jul - 12:30

I'm hoping public anger and Tom Watson (I signed the petition too tanszi) will make those in charge realise that only a full scale investigation will do now. And someone totally independent to oversee it! 7 detectives is just ridiculous and an insult to all the victims, imo!

ETA Its mentioned on this link too

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/donal-macintyre-s-crime-cafe/childless-couple-theory-takes-lead-in-maddie-inquiry

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Post  frencheuropean on Thu 17 Jul - 13:30

"The public has lost confidence in these kind of official reviews, which usually result in a whitewash."

Indeed.


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Post  LJC on Thu 17 Jul - 14:55

Just to say really, a Police investigation can start off with a certain number of officers/civilian personnel, but as time goes on the numbers do change, but all anyone knows is the number of personnel officially allocated at the start - we are never told after that what changes in personnel there are. So, the numbers can go up or down. If an investigation starts off with 30, it can end up with 7 and likewise an investigation that starts off with 7 can end up with 30.

And it depends on the type of investigation as well. If its plenty of manual work, getting out and about and interviewing/obtaining statements from many people etc, it can start off with a larger number than an investigation which is more office based, about reading certain material, which starts off with fewer staff and then can grow as time goes on.

And it is very much the case that all police enquiries nowadays consist more of civilian personnel than police officers. Almost all computer inputting and data reading is done by civilian staff overseen by police staff with many of them working flexible or part time hours to suit their needs especially those with young children themselves. And like all organisations, the big six week school holiday reduces numbers of staff considerably.(yes the police service has moved with the times and has to accommodate staff who have reason to work part time hours).

And the number officially given at the start of an investigation may also include outside experts who are brought in to help.

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Post  tanszi on Thu 17 Jul - 18:21

whilst I understand all that you are saying LJC much is made of the 30+ officers on the McCann case whilst Sir Hogan Howe who I understand oversees both investigations has clearly stated that 7 have been allocated to the Abuse enquiry. He has also publicly stated that there will be no restriction of funds for the McCann case and I have asked if Mrs May is going to use a similar separate fund as used for McCs to be used for the abuse investigation.

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