Madeleine police face deadline - questioning Portuguese-suspects

Politicians and indeed the Met are very good at PR, so that should be no problem.

jassi wrote:Politicians and indeed the Met are very good at PR, so that should be no problem.

well, politicians for sure but i'm not sure why the police would want to, after all, it would make for a handsome feather in their cap if they cracked the case, wouldn't it?

Marky wrote:

jassi wrote:Politicians and indeed the Met are very good at PR, so that should be no problem.

well, politicians for sure but i'm not sure why the police would want to, after all, it would make for a handsome feather in their cap if they cracked the case, wouldn't it?

Well it would indeed, but as we are beginning to see in the 'establishment paedophile' cover-up, high ranking police officers can't always be trusted to do the right thing.

jassi wrote:

Marky wrote:

jassi wrote:Politicians and indeed the Met are very good at PR, so that should be no problem.

well, politicians for sure but i'm not sure why the police would want to, after all, it would make for a handsome feather in their cap if they cracked the case, wouldn't it?

Well it would indeed, but as we are beginning to see in the 'establishment paedophile' cover-up, high ranking police officers can't always be trusted to do the right thing.

good point but what's to cover up where this case is concerned?

I have to admit that, speaking entirely personally, I think that this could be being covered up for the same reason as the other cases mentioned by Jassi.

Then again, if that was true, the McCanns screaming their version of events from the rooftops from day one, rather than keeping schtum, is very strange.

So really the answer is I don't know!

me neither.but if it's a cover up its been a very public one.

Marky wrote:

jassi wrote:

Marky wrote:

jassi wrote:Politicians and indeed the Met are very good at PR, so that should be no problem.

well, politicians for sure but i'm not sure why the police would want to, after all, it would make for a handsome feather in their cap if they cracked the case, wouldn't it?

Well it would indeed, but as we are beginning to see in the 'establishment paedophile' cover-up, high ranking police officers can't always be trusted to do the right thing.

good point but what's to cover up where this case is concerned?

A monumental lack of judgement, at the very least.

Marky wrote:me neither.but if it's a cover up its been a very public one.

Yes, but going through the motions yet coming to the wrong conclusion can be a very effective way of avoiding the truth - eg numerous government initiated inquiries that never reveal anything.

I wasn't at the inquest so don't have first hand knowledge of it. however several people have reported that there were no photographs presented or referred to as exhibit whatever number, of helium cans or other items needed to cause helium asphyxiation, which surprised me. I only have experience of one inquest and all the documentation, of which I was given a copy, all forensic reports etc., was also with the coroner, and were referred to. So yes im very surprised at that.

tanszi wrote:I wasn't at the inquest so don't have first hand knowledge of it. however several people have reported that there were no photographs presented or referred to as exhibit whatever number,  of helium cans or other items needed to cause helium asphyxiation, which surprised me.  I only have experience of one inquest  and all the documentation, of which I was given a copy, all forensic reports etc., was also with the coroner, and were referred to.  So yes im very surprised at that.

Surprising too that the cause of death (complete with details of helium cans and other item required) were "leaked" to the press prior to the inquest.

and so the thread goes off topic.

jassi wrote:

Marky wrote:

jassi wrote:

Marky wrote:

jassi wrote:Politicians and indeed the Met are very good at PR, so that should be no problem.

well, politicians for sure but i'm not sure why the police would want to, after all, it would make for a handsome feather in their cap if they cracked the case, wouldn't it?

Well it would indeed, but as we are beginning to see in the 'establishment paedophile' cover-up, high ranking police officers can't always be trusted to do the right thing.

good point but what's to cover up where this case is concerned?

A monumental lack of judgement, at the very least.

if you refer to messrs blair and brown then yes, you have a point.

jassi wrote:

Marky wrote:me neither.but if it's a cover up its been a very public one.

Yes, but going through the motions yet coming to the wrong conclusion can be a very effective way of avoiding the truth - eg numerous government initiated inquiries that never reveal anything.

aside from a little political ass covering i still can't see what's to cover up.

Nor can I, though that might indicate how effective any such cover up is - if there is a cover-up.

jassi wrote:Nor can I, though that might indicate how effective any such cover up is - if there is a cover-up.

ah, right.

Well if Maddie was an experimental IVF 'frankenstein' baby that would be something to cover up !

Lioned wrote:Well if Maddie was an experimental IVF 'frankenstein' baby that would be something to cover up !

wouldn't it just and hey, wasn't she ivf? oooher missus.

A cover up of illegal acts by high rankers, perhaps...

Judge Dread wrote:A cover up of illegal acts by high rankers, perhaps...

gonna flesh that out??

Marky wrote:

Judge Dread wrote:A cover up of illegal acts by high rankers, perhaps...

gonna flesh that out??

Nothing to flesh out really… As this thread has meandered in to ‘cover ups’, it was just an observation based on the fact that the IPCC believe a number of high ranking VIP’s ‘illegal acts’ have been covered up by corrupt police…

Judge Dread wrote:

Marky wrote:

Judge Dread wrote:A cover up of illegal acts by high rankers, perhaps...

gonna flesh that out??

Nothing to flesh out really… As this thread has meandered in to ‘cover ups’, it was just an observation based on the fact that the IPCC believe a number of high ranking VIP’s ‘illegal acts’ have been covered up by corrupt police…

which is relevant to this case how?

Marky wrote:

Judge Dread wrote:

Marky wrote:

Judge Dread wrote:A cover up of illegal acts by high rankers, perhaps...

gonna flesh that out??

Nothing to flesh out really… As this thread has meandered in to ‘cover ups’, it was just an observation based on the fact that the IPCC believe a number of high ranking VIP’s ‘illegal acts’ have been covered up by corrupt police…

which is relevant to this case how?

We'll just have to wait and see, won't we...

Judge Dread wrote:

Marky wrote:

Judge Dread wrote:

Marky wrote:

Judge Dread wrote:A cover up of illegal acts by high rankers, perhaps...

gonna flesh that out??

Nothing to flesh out really… As this thread has meandered in to ‘cover ups’, it was just an observation based on the fact that the IPCC believe a number of high ranking VIP’s ‘illegal acts’ have been covered up by corrupt police…

which is relevant to this case how?

We'll just have to wait and see, won't we...

no, didn't think you could.

I would say most possibly relevant as there was obviously some coverup done which we know from the fact security services were involved, interference from British Government, Freedom of Information Acts being unanswered due to national security, holding back of the Gaspar Statements by Police etc.

cherry1 wrote:I would say most possibly relevant as there was obviously some coverup done which we know from the fact security services were involved, interference from British Government, Freedom of Information Acts being unanswered due to national security, holding back of the Gaspar Statements by Police etc.

okey doke, why?