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"McCann family vs Amaral et al Judgment Verdict - April 27, 2015" Anne Guedes/Pamalam

Post  frencheuropean on Fri 8 May - 16:43

The 52 pages translated by Anne Guedes

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/v01.htm

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Post  weissnicht on Sat 9 May - 18:57

frencheuropean wrote:The 52 pages translated by Anne Guedes

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/v01.htm
Thanks for posting.

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Post  wjk on Sat 9 May - 19:13

Yes, thanks, frencheuropean for posting and Anne for all your hard work

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Post  tanszi on Sat 9 May - 23:47

yes please add my thanks too

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Post  kitti on Sun 10 May - 8:36

One minute she says it isn't a crime to say in a book that Madeleine is dead and the next she is demanding the books be destroyed and to pay the mccanns money...for what?

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Post  frencheuropean on Sun 10 May - 12:23

kitti wrote:One minute she says it  isn't a crime to say in a book that Madeleine is dead and the next she is demanding the books be destroyed and to pay the mccanns money...for what?

Indeed, it's page 48: http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/v01.htm

"It is important to keep in mind that it is not illegal to sustain the thesis according to which Madeleine McCann died in the apartment of Praia da Luz and that her body was concealed by her parents. The scope of the lawsuit is the affirmation, by the defendant Goncalo Amaral, in the book, the interview and the documentary, in the concrete terms that he used, of the same thesis."

So,G.Amaral was condemned not for having said Madeleine died in the flat but for having omitted to put his words  in inverted commas. 250 000 Euros the comma! It's mad!

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Post  jinvta on Sun 10 May - 18:02

It is sounding more and more like this judge was bought off. By whom (the Maddie fund or the UK Government), I don't know, with the hopes that Amaral would be unable to fund an appeal. Just as the book banning was overturned, surely this rogue judge's nonsensical ruling will be overturned as well. Her ruling completely lacks logic, and the fact that she reinstated the book banning which two higher level courts had disagreed with, shows that she is out of her league.

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Post  interested on Sun 10 May - 18:26

wjk wrote:Yes, thanks, frencheuropean for posting and Anne for all your hard work


My thanks to both as well. Having now read through the document, I can't understand, while the ban on the book was overturned on appeal, this particular judgement reinstates the ban. I hope Dr. Amaral's further appeal will result in a favourable verdict for him and Madeleine.

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Post  kitti on Sun 10 May - 18:33

The appeal won't worry the Mccanns as the court ruling will be thrown down our throats, before, during and after,


Like the book ban, the result won't be printed.

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Post  frencheuropean on Sun 10 May - 18:41

The second main point of the judge is that G.Amaral didn't respect his "duty of reserve" and that his freedom of expression arrives after this duty, even if he was retired. If so, why wasn't G.Amaral sanctionned by his hierarchy, when  other civil servants in a similar position are allowed to write books and not he?
Amaral, after he left, was severely criticized, even difamed by the British medias and the McCanns. His hierarchy never stood up for him when it was its duty to do it. In such a situation where G.Amaral had to defend alone his reputation, his duty of reserve was, imo, out of date.

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Re: "McCann family vs Amaral et al Judgment Verdict - April 27, 2015" Anne Guedes/Pamalam

Post  frencheuropean on Wed 13 May - 9:15

Anne Guedes just added interesting notes/comments to her translation of the final Judgment Verdict in order we understand better what is at stake in some obscure parts. Merci again for her fantastic job.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/v01.htm The notes are in red numbers, you click on them to have the explanation.

Or, you read the explanations together( faster but rather confusing) at :http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Notes.htm#3

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Post  frencheuropean on Wed 13 May - 12:55

frencheuropean wrote:Anne Guedes just added  interesting notes/comments to her translation of the final Judgment Verdict in order we understand better what is at stake in some obscure parts. Merci again for her fantastic job.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/v01.htm   The notes are in red numbers, you click on them to have the explanation.

Or, you read the explanations together( faster but rather confusing) at :http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Notes.htm#3

Anne Guedes also translated "The Matter of Proof – Final determinations concerning facts"


http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/v02.htm

"Introduction
The document, a matéria de prova, was released for all lawyers at the last hearing, on January 21, 2015, in order for them to read it and eventually discuss it or ask for clarifications. The lawyers had been provided before the hearing with a list of all requirements written by the judge.

As this document's objective was to orientate the lawyers in their last task in the trial, the allegations of law, it wasn't supposed to be released to the media. But it happened to be and not in an appropriate and correct manner. Gonçalo Amaral's lawyer was left with no choice but releasing the document itself to the media. He limited it to the first part of the document, the decisions of the judge concerning the evidence.

The document is composed of 2 parts, the first being the judge's decisions about the evidence and the second including 4 sub-parts : 1) the references, 2) the judge's analysis of certain statements, 3) the elements leading to a positive conviction and 4) the elements leading to a negative conviction.

In the first part of the document and for each of the 37 points, the judge mentioned the considered affirmation only when she reformulated it.
When this affirmation has been kept in the exact form it has in the list of requirements established by the judge, it had no reason to be repeated. In this case and to allow understanding, the affirmation is added in the blue colour.
When the judge has reformulated the affirmation, it is mentioned, but what she suppressed or changed isn’t. In this case and to improve understanding, a note is added in the green colour."

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