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Post  katertaif on Sat 26 Sep - 12:33

fuzeta wrote:Hello kitti, well it is strange about the photographs and film they have. áFirstly I saw the poor little boy being found on a very small sandy bit between two rocks. áThen on the TV news they showed a film of him being found on the edge of a beach. áI have been wondering about that á

The photograph(s) are only one aspect of this tale fuzeta. It doesn't detract from the children and their Mother dying in a particularly horrible way, there are many many points which need clearing up. The photograph(s), the loss of ID, suddenly turning up again to allow him to return to Kobane. (I think we can safely rule out humanitarian considerations as far as IS goes) The visas not being issued, so The father will get his teeth attended to in Europe instead (Are there no dentists in Canada) All that sounds as if the family did have money, so why did he need to go in an overcrowded, unseaworthy boat and risk his family? How did he come by it? The list of improbables goes on.


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Post  joyce1938 on Sat 26 Sep - 13:39

I think 2 brothers has died ,? was surprised that all the talk was about one small boy ,so the different places found was possably 2nd boy ? joyce1938

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Post  Claudia79 on Sat 26 Sep - 14:59

joyce1938 wrote:I think 2 brothers has died ,? was surprised that all the talk was about one small boy ,so the different places found was possably 2nd boy ? joyce1938

The older boy wasn't caught on film and was found dead later according to what I read.

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Post  mara thon on Sat 26 Sep - 16:00

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mara thon wrote:Claudia there was an interview with a woman who was on the boat that sank, her two children died too, she stated in the interview how much she had paid the father of the boy for the boat journey. áOther reports are also filtering through from other people who were on the boat. áThere is also an interview with a Syrian doctor who is in Turkey, he is making BIG money sending people to Greece, he has sent his own son to Holland, he said as a child alone the boy would receive instant care. áThis doctor actually buys cheap "seaworthy" boats, cheap because he says he knows the boats will not be returning, he also says none of his boats have sunk. áThe doctor says he will eventually go to Holland to join his son.

Marathon. I'm aware of the interviews. Although they didn't reach the Portuguese press as far as I'm aware, I read them in English. That, however, doesn't meean I have to believe what I read. Firstly, because of the newspapers themselves. Secondly, because it doesn't make sense and I have a head of my own. If he was a smuggler, what sense does it make to be making lots of money and put his children on a boat? He could just put them on a plane. Anyway, that is not even what's in question. What's in question is why he ran. Well, if I was a Syrian citizen I would only stay if I didn't have the chance to leave. I'd rather lose everything I owned and leave than stay and see my loved ones die.


The interviews I refer to are not ones printed in the papers, not the ones I have seen anyway, they are video recordings, interviews via an interpreter. áI have no doubt you can find them if you wish.

edited to add: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/21/syrian-doctor-now-makes-60000-month-trafficking-migrants-greece/

The above is just one of many reports.

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Post  kitti on Sat 26 Sep - 16:39

I'm quite sure Fuzeta the new multi billion rail link HS2 that will knock off 48mins (if on time) from Manchester to London will be worth the loss off villages that have been standing their for centuries and disruption and noise for the next 7 years for all who haven't had their little cottages 'compulsory purchased', pensioners will have something to look forward to in their old age by hopping on the last train to 'scrape heap ' land somewhere in outer Mongolia and don't forget to drop off your hard earned pension you've saved up and worked for at the ticket office before you board, after all, it will be needed here and where your going you will only need a chair and nappy and cold fish ..and that's on a good day, Sunday it's mince and mash...whoopppeeee, something to look forward to in my old age.

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Post  Claudia79 on Sat 26 Sep - 16:52

mara thon wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
mara thon wrote:Claudia there was an interview with a woman who was on the boat that sank, her two children died too, she stated in the interview how much she had paid the father of the boy for the boat journey. áOther reports are also filtering through from other people who were on the boat. áThere is also an interview with a Syrian doctor who is in Turkey, he is making BIG money sending people to Greece, he has sent his own son to Holland, he said as a child alone the boy would receive instant care. áThis doctor actually buys cheap "seaworthy" boats, cheap because he says he knows the boats will not be returning, he also says none of his boats have sunk. áThe doctor says he will eventually go to Holland to join his son.

Marathon. I'm aware of the interviews. Although they didn't reach the Portuguese press as far as I'm aware, I read them in English. That, however, doesn't meean I have to believe what I read. Firstly, because of the newspapers themselves. Secondly, because it doesn't make sense and I have a head of my own. If he was a smuggler, what sense does it make to be making lots of money and put his children on a boat? He could just put them on a plane. Anyway, that is not even what's in question. What's in question is why he ran. Well, if I was a Syrian citizen I would only stay if I didn't have the chance to leave. I'd rather lose everything I owned and leave than stay and see my loved ones die.


The interviews I refer to are not ones printed in the papers, not the ones I have seen anyway, they are video recordings, interviews via an interpreter. áI have no doubt you can find them if you wish.

edited to add: á http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/21/syrian-doctor-now-makes-60000-month-trafficking-migrants-greece/

The above is just one of many reports.

I have read lots of things. That, however, isn't even related to what prompted my first post here. It's obvious what these people are running away from. You just have to see pictures of Syria before and after the war. The fact that there are people making money from misery and pain (when in the History of Humanity has that not happened?) doesn't make these people's ordeal any less difficult and these children's (and adults' too, of course!) deaths any less dramatic. That a woman's reaction to the death of a child is to mention the alledged staging of a photo, just makes me But I shouldn't be so shocked I know. We are all equal but some of us are more equal than others.

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Post  Badboy on Sat 26 Sep - 17:10

LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE FLEEING SYRIA,DON'T WANT TO BE UNDER ISIS ETC.
ISIS ARE ANOTHER LOT EXPOITING PICTURE FORTHEIR OWN SICK EVIL TWISTED ENDS.
CORRECTION HER NAME IS SUSAN HOPKINS.

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Post  joyce1938 on Sat 26 Sep - 18:05

were the people that didn't want isas also tried to get rid of assan is that right name ? joyce1938

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Post  Badboy on Sat 26 Sep - 18:37

joyce1938 wrote: áwere the people that didn't want isas also tried to get rid of assan is that right name ? joyce1938
ASSAD,UNDERSTANDLY NOONE WANTS TO LIVE IN A WARZONE.

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Post  katertaif on Sat 26 Sep - 18:42

Badboy wrote:
joyce1938 wrote: áwere the people that didn't want isas also tried to get rid of assan is that right name ? joyce1938
ASSAD,UNDERSTANDLY NOONE WANTS TO LIVE IN A WARZONE.

according to the latest report, Putin has promised to prevent the west from deposing Assad. He has certainly put some heavy firepower in there already.

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