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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 5 Aug - 9:52

I think there can be no doubt that some people with government connections have been allowed to escape justice.

On the other hand, there have been some very big names brought down in their own lifetime; Rolf Harris is the one which shocked me the most, he had been part of my TV life for as long as I can remember!

I don't believe that, IF there were strong allegations that Cliff Richard is a child abuser, he would not be charged.

The Hollie Greig hoax has changed my views in recent years. I thought when I first heard of the case that abuse and cover-ups were rife everywhere but now I am aware that stories can just start with one disturbed person (Hollie's mother of course, not Hollie herself) and then they mushroom out of control.

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Post  Guest on Fri 5 Aug - 13:24

cherry1 wrote:
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cherry1 wrote:If there was no evidence the Police would not have submitted it to the CPS

Insufficient evidence isn't no evidence

insufficient evidence means there is evidence but not enough to get a realistic conviction

Nobody is surprised by this verdict in view of his connections - as I said more will be revealed when he is no longer alive.

insufficient evidence means a negligible amount of evidence, absence of sufficient evidence, bereft of evidence, deficient amount of evidence, devoid of sufficient proof, failing proof, inadequate amount of persuasive facts, inadequate confirmation, inadequate facts to prove the point in question, inadequate means of proof, inadequate proof, inadequate proof of facts, inadequate substantiation, incomplete evidence, insufficient admitted testimony, insufficient body of facts, insufficient corroboration, insufficient facts to establish the point in issue, insufficient means of proving a fact, insufficient proof at trial, insufficient veriiication, lacking proof, lean on evidence, meager degree of evidence, paltry amount of evidence, scant testimony, slim proof, sparse proof, thin evidence, weak on evidence.



aka, nothing. á



Obviously not heard of the establishment coverup of VIP child abuse!


evidence?

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 5 Aug - 15:14

er.....that's why it's a coverup!!


There has been plenty of evidence, not heard the one about the 'lost' files or the files of evidence which were handed over but then we are told they didn't exist, only for them to be found, then lost again........

You not heard about the Police who have turned whistleblowers who explained in detail how they were working on cases of child abuse and when they found there were VIPS involved they were told from higher up to shut down the operation. You not heard about the Police, Health Service, and others who covered up for Jimmy Savile, etc. etc. etc.

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Post  Woody on Fri 5 Aug - 15:22

That is true, however there has never been a whisper about Cliff Richard before.

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Post  Guest on Fri 5 Aug - 15:41

cherry1 wrote:er.....that's why it's a coverup!!


There has been plenty of evidence, not heard the one about the 'lost' files or the files of evidence which were handed over but then we are told they didn't exist, only for them to be found, then lost again........

You not heard about the Police who have turned whistleblowers who explained in detail how they were working on cases of child abuse and when they found there were VIPS involved they were told from higher up to shut down the operation. You not heard about the Police, Health Service, and others who covered up for Jimmy Savile, etc. etc. etc. á á á á

plenty of evidence yet the police investigation is on the verge of closing down due to a lack of evidence.

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 5 Aug - 16:15

which is what happens in coverups as the Police who have turned whistleblowers have clearly stated and as was clearly stated in the case of Savile and others

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 5 Aug - 16:16

there most certainly has been stuff come out before in relation to Cliff Richard.

He is too well protected but I have no doubt more will come out in the fullness of time.

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Post  Woody on Fri 5 Aug - 16:30

Why would CR be protected by the establishment when the likes of Max Clifford, DLT, Stuart Hall and Rolf Harris weren't?

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Post  Woody on Fri 5 Aug - 16:55

Max Clifford in particular must have known a lot of powerful people and also know a lot of dirt.

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 5 Aug - 17:14

It ties in with another VIP cover up so if they were to take him down on other allegations he could spill the beans which in effect would bring the whole lot crashing down.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 5 Aug - 17:29

I haven't heard anything about Cliff myself. Unsubstantiated rants on blogs like the Coleman Experience count for nothing.

I'm old enough to remember whispers that he was "one of them" (as we used to say about homosexuals) and that would have been a big problem prior to 1967.

Of course anything now which involves consenting adults wouldn't bat an eyelid.


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Post  Guest on Fri 5 Aug - 20:08

cherry1 wrote:there most certainly has been stuff come out before in relation to Cliff Richard.

He is too well protected but I have no doubt more will come out in the fullness of time.

don't hold your nose.

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Post  Guest on Fri 5 Aug - 20:10

cherry1 wrote:It ties in with another VIP cover up so if they were to take him down on other allegations he could spill the beans which in effect would bring the whole lot crashing down.

don't forget to stock up on popcorn.

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 5 Aug - 20:11

I know what I know

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Post  Guest on Fri 5 Aug - 20:27

cherry1 wrote:I know what I know

sorry chezza, you know no more than anyone else. you just believe what you want to believe. yours is just an opinion you can't support with facts. a lot of people have been hurt by this sort of nonsense but the accusers just walk away.

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 5 Aug - 20:31

You assume I know no more than anyone else and your assumption would be wrong

A lot of people have been hurt by having their allegations of child abuse dismissed and not believed - that is the ones still alive who didn't commit suicide

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Post  Guest on Fri 5 Aug - 20:41

cherry1 wrote:You assume I know no more than anyone else and your assumption would be wrong

A lot of people have been hurt by having their allegations of child abuse dismissed and not believed - that is the ones still alive who didn't commit suicide

in which case, instead on banging on about it on a forum you should take your concerns and evidence to the police. oh, hang on...

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 5 Aug - 20:43

don't think you are getting it... they already know ...hence the coverup

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Post  Guest on Fri 5 Aug - 20:45

cherry1 wrote:don't think you are getting it... they already know ...hence the coverup

ah well, they told you to stop wasting their time huh.

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 5 Aug - 20:48


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Post  Guest on Fri 5 Aug - 21:07

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indeed. they're after you. part of the cover up you see.

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 5 Aug - 21:27


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Post  Guest on Sat 6 Aug - 7:20

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no point being in denial. if you know something you shouldn't they will be watching. be afraid. be very afraid.

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Post  cherry1 on Sat 6 Aug - 11:22




nobody needs to tell them anything, they already KNOW!

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Post  Guest on Sat 6 Aug - 12:43

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nobody needs to tell them anything, they already KNOW!

well, that's you done for then.

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