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Post  Annabel on Mon 28 Dec - 6:33

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The One Million Dollars Question
Which Crime Specialist Director in London did David Payne phoned on 4th May 2007 at 23:13? (Thank you, UnterdenTeppich, from Twitter)

By the way, don't forget this brilliant analysis published by “www.mccannfiles.com”:

David Payne describes Madeleine

Extract from David Payne's statement to Leicestershire police on 10 April 2008

24 April 2009
"Mmm..., errr... Madeleine's, errr... a very striking, errr... beautiful child, I'd almost - if I want a better phrase - call her doll-like, you know. She was very, you know, I think, you know, very unique looking child, errr... she'd got very pretty, you know, blonde hair, errr... in a bob, she was quite a petite, errr... child and, you know, she was very bubbly, very, errr... you know, she was a very good child to, to interact with. She was very bright, you could have a lot of fun with Madeleine, errr... and, you know, she, she was, you know, Kate and Gerry's, you know, pride and joy. They'd had a lot of trouble conceiving, you know, with IVF and everything and, you know, Madeleine was their miracle. She was obviously very unique with the fact that she'd got the, you know, the iris defect, errr... but, you know, she was certainly a happy go lucky child, you know, she was, she would interact with the other children very well, as I said on the other, earlier recording, you know, she played very happily with L*** and, you know, indeed the other children. She was, you know, very... she is a very beautiful child and good fun."

(..)"You know, I, you know, a fact I've come across already you know, she was a... she's a very bright child, you know, she wouldn't be the kind of mischievous child who, you know, and just try and get out of the flat and, you know, get up to mischief and that, you know, there's fun in all children but she certainly wasn't that kind of child. She was very bright."

Now the same statement, with the past tense highlighted:

"Mmm..., errr... Madeleine's, errr... a very striking, errr... beautiful child, I'd almost - if I want a better phrase - call her doll-like, you know. She was very, you know, I think, you know, very unique looking child, errr... she'd got very pretty, you know, blonde hair, errr... in a bob, she was quite a petite, errr... child and, you know, she was very bubbly, very, errr... you know, she was a very good child to, to interact with. She was very bright, you could have a lot of fun with Madeleine, errr... and, you know, she... she was, you know, Kate and Gerry's, you know, pride and joy. They'd had a lot of trouble conceiving, you know, with IVF and everything and, you know, Madeleine was their miracle. She was obviously very unique with the fact that she'd got the, you know, the iris defect, errr... but, you know, she was certainly a happy go lucky child, you know, she was... she would interact with the other children very well, as I said on the other, earlier recording, you know, she played very happily with L*** and, you know, indeed the other children. She was, you know, very... she is a very beautiful child and good fun."

(..)"You know, I, you know, a fact I've come across already you know she was a... she's a very bright child. you know, she wouldn't be the kind of mischievous child who, you know, and just try and get out of the flat and, you know, get up to mischief and that, you know, there's fun in all children but she certainly wasn't that kind of child. She was very bright."

- Not only is it disturbing that David Payne consistently talks of Madeleine in the past tense but also that he feels the need, on two occasions, to quickly correct himself into the present tense.

With 'you know' highlighted:

"Mmm..., errr... Madeleine's, errr... a very striking, errr... beautiful child, I'd almost - if I want a better phrase - call her doll-like, you know. She was very, you know, I think, you know, very unique looking child, errr... she'd got very pretty, you know, blonde hair, errr... in a bob, she was quite a petite, errr... child and, you know, she was very bubbly, very, errr... you know, she was a very good child to, to interact with. She was very bright, you could have a lot of fun with Madeleine, errr... and, you know, she, she was, you know, Kate and Gerry's, you know, pride and joy. They'd had a lot of trouble conceiving, you know, with IVF and everything and, you know, Madeleine was their miracle. She was obviously very unique with the fact that she'd got the, you know, the iris defect, errr... but, you know, she was certainly a happy go lucky child, you know, she was, she would interact with the other children very well, as I said on the other, earlier recording, you know, she played very happily with L*** and, you know, indeed the other children. She was, you know, very... she is a very beautiful child and good fun."

(..)"You know, I, you know, a fact I've come across already, you know, she was a... she's a very bright child, you know, she wouldn't be the kind of mischievous child who, you know, and just try and get out of the flat and, you know, get up to mischief and that, you know, there's fun in all children but she certainly wasn't that kind of child. She was very bright."

- The use of 'you know' 23 times by David Payne, could suggest three things:

1) He is not comfortable with silence or pauses in the conversation. But that would seem unusual for someone who held a position as Senior Research Fellow in cardiovascular sciences at Leicester University.

2) He is using the words 'you know' as a stalling device to give himself more time to think about what he is saying. But, given that he is simply describing Madeleine's character, why should he need to employ such a technique?

3) He is using the words 'you know' in an attempt, consciously or subconsciously, to convince the listener that he is telling the truth. But why this desire?
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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 28 Dec - 8:11

David Payne sounds like he's trying to remember everything he's been scripted to say. By the McCanns? Hence, the pausing with 'you know.' He seems to be trying to cover all the areas where there might be evidence or witness statements to the contrary. A nanny said that to begin with Madeleine was quite shy. So, Payne has to assert how she was outgoing and got on well with other children. There was a statement from a family member about Madeleine's sleep-walking and also Kate McCann's insistence that Madeleine could not have wandered off, so that Payne needs to reinforce the idea that she wouldn't leave the apartment.

Having completed a course in NLP, the obvious prompt when someone repeatedly uses the phrase 'you know,' is 'well, actually, I don't. That's why I'm asking you.'
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Post  Guest on Mon 28 Dec - 8:35

Thanks Annabel.

Which Crime Specialist Director in London did David Payne phoned on 4th May 2007 at 23:13? (Thank you, UnterdenTeppich, from Twitter)

I find this comment very , very interesting!!!!!!!!!

None of the Tapas 9 were very articulate considering they are supposed to be educated people holding responsible jobs.
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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 28 Dec - 8:40

Beattie wrote:Thanks Annabel.

Which Crime Specialist Director in London did David Payne phoned on 4th May 2007 at 23:13? (Thank you, UnterdenTeppich, from Twitter)

I find this comment very , very interesting!!!!!!!!!

None of the Tapas 9 were very articulate considering they are supposed to be educated people holding responsible jobs.

I guess it might be more difficult for them to be articulate when they are lying through their teeth, but they sound like bottom set chavs rather than educated middle-class professionals.
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Post  Guest on Mon 28 Dec - 8:55

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What"s a "bottom set chav"
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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 28 Dec - 9:22

Beattie wrote:AnnaEsse

What"s a "bottom set chav"

That's the ones who talk from their rear ends......and also the ones in school, who are assigned to the lowest streams: the girls carry little handbags containing make-up and an expensive mobile phone, but no useful scholarly equipment; the boys have oil-slicked stand-up hair, no equipment, but a pack of chewing gum in each pocket and, of course, an expensive mobile phone. All are good friends with the local Community Police Officer.
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Post  Guest on Mon 28 Dec - 9:30

Right, thanks. I see you have made a study of them.!!
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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 28 Dec - 9:54

Beattie wrote:Right, thanks. I see you have made a study of them.!!

It's hard not to when faced regularly with hordes of them! The girls are called Kayleigh-Marie, Ashleigh, Courtney, Chelsea, Chelsie, Chelsey etc. The boys are called Connor, Nathan, Ryan, Darren, Darrin, Darryn and Louis (pronounced Lewis!) The boys are going to be famous footballers and the girls are going to win X Factor.
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Post  Guest on Mon 28 Dec - 10:01

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So much for our Education System when we produce such vacuous "grown-ups"!!!!!!
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Post  kitti on Tue 29 Dec - 12:30

AnnaEsse wrote:
Beattie wrote:Right, thanks. I see you have made a study of them.!!

It's hard not to when faced regularly with hordes of them! The girls are called Kayleigh-Marie, Ashleigh, Courtney, Chelsea, Chelsie, Chelsey etc. The boys are called Connor, Nathan, Ryan, Darren, Darrin, Darryn and Louis (pronounced Lewis!) The boys are going to be famous footballers and the girls are going to win X Factor.



Dont forget kylie lol

I went round a well known market in dagenham a few weeks ago and you can spot them from a mile off....their was a family off them....mum, dad, kids, aunties, uncles, grans and grandads...cloned to look alike with their HUGE prams and the kids dressed like they wouldnt stand out off place sitting on top off a toilet roll....frills...ghastly!


Then the older kids in their white fluffy ugg lookalike boots with their whie handbangs, then you got the even older girls with their white stilletoes....was is it with white and chavs!
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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 29 Dec - 13:26

kitti wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Beattie wrote:Right, thanks. I see you have made a study of them.!!

It's hard not to when faced regularly with hordes of them! The girls are called Kayleigh-Marie, Ashleigh, Courtney, Chelsea, Chelsie, Chelsey etc. The boys are called Connor, Nathan, Ryan, Darren, Darrin, Darryn and Louis (pronounced Lewis!) The boys are going to be famous footballers and the girls are going to win X Factor.



Dont forget kylie lol

I went round a well known market in dagenham a few weeks ago and you can spot them from a mile off....their was a family off them....mum, dad, kids, aunties, uncles, grans and grandads...cloned to look alike with their HUGE prams and the kids dressed like they wouldnt stand out off place sitting on top off a toilet roll....frills...ghastly!


Then the older kids in their white fluffy ugg lookalike boots with their whie handbangs, then you got the even older girls with their white stilletoes....was is it with white and chavs!

Ah yes! Some classes have a few Kylies! I was in the Co-op the other day behind a young woman who was wearing a white cardigan: it had multi-level frills, a few right down to her knees at the back, and the front was very low-cut! And yes, she did have those white fluffy boots on!
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Post  kitti on Tue 29 Dec - 13:33

Your a quick learner lol and well spotted!
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Post  MaryB on Tue 29 Dec - 14:12

Somebody mentioned a Verity to me the other day. And I said well that's a posh name isn't it. I've never known one personally. Though there was one in quite a good Agatha Christie novel.
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Post  kitti on Tue 29 Dec - 14:16

Havent heard that name in years lol...


Another chav name....Lordes...yes...LORDES......good grief lol...theirs a few living in dagenham.
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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 29 Dec - 16:00

My grandson's best friend is called Atticus.
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Post  ann_chovey on Wed 30 Dec - 14:49

My daughter's former neighbours' offspring were named Cole and Rooney. The dog was called Tyson. Truly.
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Post  MJH1901 on Wed 30 Dec - 15:01

Blimey! My son has a Chardonnay and a Paris at his school.
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Post  Guest on Wed 30 Dec - 17:16

We know of a family with twins, they are called Dolce and Gabbana. I kid you not.
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Post  Alfiefinn on Wed 30 Dec - 17:25

I can well believe it Grouse There's probably someone out there with Armani and Prada. We did once buy a second-hand car off a dealer with a daughter called Lexus!
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Post  kitti on Wed 30 Dec - 18:29

DONT FORGET MERCEDES!!

AND PORCHE!!
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Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 30 Dec - 18:33

.............and Harley!
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Post  kitti on Wed 30 Dec - 18:34

quite like harley lol
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Post  Guest on Wed 30 Dec - 19:15

I knew two indian boys at school, twins, called Kicka and Boota

Seriously.
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Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 30 Dec - 19:27

I had a really nasty girl, called Melana, in a class I taught. She was rude, spiteful, verbally abusive and just downright nasty, until one day I asked her did she know that her name was a nasty medical symptom, which she didn't! After I explained to her, she became, not exactly pleasant, but was somewhat subdued!
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Post  Guest on Wed 30 Dec - 20:24

No one beats the Brazilians with theirs strange names.

Um Dois Três de Oliveira Quatro - One Two Three de Oliveira Four
Abecê Nogueira - ABC Nogueira
Antônio Querido Fracasso - Antônio Sweet Failure

Here's a long list of unpronounceable names

http://cosmos.oninetspeed.pt/s.reis/docs/Nomesbrasileiros.pdf
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