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Post  fedrules on Thu 14 Jan - 15:58

Hare wrote:Soares: Suddenly, the production firm lost interest in selling the documentary, because the McCanns didn't want it broadcast on our channel.

I bet they didnt, and the obvious question is WHY ?
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Very confused. Surely they'd have liked such a pro-abduction programme broadcast???!!

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 15:59

fedrules wrote:Very confused. Surely they'd have liked such a pro-abduction programme broadcast???!!

I hope he can substantiate the claim that the McCann's didnt want it broadcast. Hopefully they have something in writing to that effect, rather than it just being his personal opinion.

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Post  fedrules on Thu 14 Jan - 16:00

Had this TV station been 'unhelpful' to the McCanns in the past. Didn't they want them making money with the doc?

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:02

fedrules wrote:Had this TV station been 'unhelpful' to the McCanns in the past. Didn't they want them making money with the doc?

Broadcast would have been a win win situation. Promotion of the pro abduction adgenda, and payment.

There has to be a very good reason that the mockumentary was not shown. Fear of stirring up ill feeling amongst the Portugese population perhaps ?

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Post  Annabel on Thu 14 Jan - 16:03

Madeleine's birthday is 12th May

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:04

Soares: We had allocated a specific time slot to broadcast a documentary about Madeleine - whether it was the British or Portuguese version

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:05

Soares: The marketing and communication plan was unaffected by the version chosen.

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Post  HiDeHo on Thu 14 Jan - 16:09

Annabel wrote:Madeleine's birthday is 12th May

The documentary (as far as I can tell) was April 13th.

So why did Duarte suggest it was shown on her birthday?

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:13

HiDeHo wrote:So why did Duarte suggest it was shown on her birthday?

So tommorrows papers can lead with headlines Sick Cop shows evil documentary on poor Maddies birthday. No journalist is going to wate 2 minutes checking the facts

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Post  buildersbum on Thu 14 Jan - 16:14

welshy wrote:
ann_chovey wrote:Thursday January 14, 2010 3:29 jondipaolo
3:29 jondipaolo: Duarte: Did you know that the documentary was broadcast on Madeleine's birthday?



Mr Velho: No, I didn't know that.

Oh God this is looking really bad for Mr Amaral.


"WHY"

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Post  Annabel on Thu 14 Jan - 16:18

HiDeHo wrote:
Annabel wrote:Madeleine's birthday is 12th May

The documentary (as far as I can tell) was April 13th.

So why did Duarte suggest it was shown on her birthday?

I think the documentary was April 30th????


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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:26

Hare wrote:
The Famous Grouse wrote:I bet Gerry tries to squirm out of paying her bill too, just like he did with Justine.

Its not often you hear the Hare agreeing with any actions taken by Gerry McCann, but in this case, I think he'd be justified.

I dont think she has the philosophical framework in place to allow her to represent clients who she knows without a shadow of a doubt are invoved in the disapearence of their child. Subconsiously she's struggling with this. She's supposed to be the prosecution lawyer, but she seams constantly taking a defensive position.

I read a while ago that she had only prosecuted 4 Libel cases because Libel trials are supposedly rare in
Portugal. Presumably she was recommended by Abreu the McCanns Portugese Lawyer when Gerry and
Smethurst went there last year. If so, that"s two Bills Gerry won"t be paying.

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Post  Lilemor on Thu 14 Jan - 16:26

Hare wrote:Soares: We tried to buy the documentary produced by (British) Channel 4 but were unable to.

unbelivable ! i wonder why ? FFS this was the mockumentary produced by the McCann's themselves. Why wouldnt they want a portugese audience to see it ?

Yes!
It would have been important especially in Portugal, really.
Madeleine is near PDL, we heard from the McCanns private "cop".

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Post  Lilemor on Thu 14 Jan - 16:28

COURT: McCanns' lawyer, Isabel Duarte, is cross-examining Mr Soares on the subject of the channel's decision-making.

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:31

Lilemor wrote:COURT: McCanns' lawyer, Isabel Duarte, is cross-examining Mr Soares on the subject of the channel's decision-making.

I can't see what this has to do with GA?

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:31

Lilemor wrote:COURT: McCanns' lawyer, Isabel Duarte, is cross-examining Mr Soares on the subject of the channel's decision-making.

Jesus, so now all Portugese TV output needs the McCann's seal of approval !

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:33

Lilemor wrote:Mr Velho: The amount of people who saw the documentary based on the book was far smaller than the audience for the McCanns' Oprah interview.

That was a good one but so is the McCanns lawyer, she shot back with how many in Portugal and did you know the docu was played on Madeleine's birthday/

I wish I had been there, I would have said did you know the McCanns were laughing their socks off on Madeleine's birthday just days after she disappeared!

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:41

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Lilemor wrote:COURT: McCanns' lawyer, Isabel Duarte, is cross-examining Mr Soares on the subject of the channel's decision-making.

I can't see what this has to do with GA?

They are in the dock as well, not just Goncalo, if they cannot get damages from Goncalo.....!

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Post  fedrules on Thu 14 Jan - 16:43

Is the live thread still working? Can't get it on sky..
Pandora's box- all the evil in the world came out of that. Could be very appropriate for these two...

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:43

I"m a bit confused here, are we talking about the Documentary shown last year? If so, no wonder the Producers
didn"t want it shown in Portugal, Kate"s part ended up on the cutting room floor and it was a poor Docu anyway.

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Jan - 16:46

viv wrote:
MissBlonde wrote:
Lilemor wrote:COURT: McCanns' lawyer, Isabel Duarte, is cross-examining Mr Soares on the subject of the channel's decision-making.

I can't see what this has to do with GA?

They are in the dock as well, not just Goncalo, if they cannot get damages from Goncalo.....!



Nothing would surprise me - make me sick yes - but not surprise me. :(

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Post  Lilemor on Thu 14 Jan - 16:48

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... enced.html

Madeleine McCann: Portuguese detective 'won't be silenced'
The parents of missing Madeleine McCann face years of torment after the detective accusing them of covering up their daughter's death insisted he would never be silenced.

By Fiona Govan in Lisbon
Published: 4:33PM GMT 14 Jan 2010

Kate and Gerry McCann could be forced to endure hearing repeated allegations of their involvement in their daughter’s disappearance in courts across Europe for years to come, it emerged.

Speaking on the third day of a libel hearing outside the main civil court in Lisbon, the detective who led the initial investigation into the missing girl said he would take his battle “all the way to the European Court of Human Rights.”

Goncalo Amaral is fighting to lift an injunction banning a book in which accuses the McCanns of concealing Madeleine’s body and faking her abduction after their daughter accidentally died after being left unattended.

The former detective, who led the initial investigation into the three-year-old’s disappearance from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007, called a series of top Portuguese law enforcement officials as witnesses to support his theory.

Mrs McCann, 41, admitted that listening to the claims presented in court had been difficult but incomparable to the pain of losing their child.

“It’s not easy,” she said during a break in proceedings. “But it’s never going to be as bad as what we’ve been through already.”

But she expressed no regret in bringing the libel action even though it had provided their detractor with a public platform on which to air his suspicions.

“I’m pleased we took this action,” said Mrs McCann. “It’s been shown again that there is no evidence that Madeleine came to any harm and no evidence that we’re involved.

“The bottom line is that Mr Amaral’s book is based on opinion but not on fact and as it’s a child’s life we need facts and evidence.”

Only minutes before her statement, Mr Amaral said that whatever the outcome of the hearing he would fight to get his book, “Maddie: The Truth Of The Lie” back on the shelves.

The ex-policeman's lawyers argue that the material in his book is contained in the official Portuguese police files for the investigation, many of which were made public in August 2008.

The police case was archived and the McCanns, both doctors from Rothley, Leics, were removed as suspects in their daughter’s disappearance after police failed to provide any evidence.

“No matter what happens I will go wherever I need to guarantee freedom of speech of the Portuguese people,” the former Algarve detective said outside court. “I believe that this injunction goes against the Portuguese constitution.”

He said if the judge ruled in the McCanns’ favour he would appeal within Portugal and even take the battle to Strasburg.

“If I need to I will go all the way to the European court of human rights.”

The McCanns lawyer, Isabel Duarte, admitted that the process could continue for years to come and likened it to a “Pandora’s box”.

“I am most confident we will win” she said. “I’m just sorry that my clients have to be submitted to this pain and distress but we knew a Pandora’s box was opening so we have to expect these things - we have to face the enemy.”

The hearing, which is one step in a lengthly legal battle in which the McCanns are seeking libel damages worth at least 1 million euros, has been adjourned until February 10.


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Post  Lilemor on Thu 14 Jan - 16:48

Court:
Proceedings have been put on hold for a short break.

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Post  roseland69 on Thu 14 Jan - 16:52

If there was a law against specific scheduling by tv broadcasters, then most shows on television would be in breach. TV programmes are scheduled for a reason - be it the audience they wish to capture or to coincide with an event, anniversary or suchlike. Its just hpw its done to ensure maximum audience share for ratings and thus revenue from advertisers. Furthermore, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. The Mccann's have no hesitation in scheduling their own shows around the anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

This line of questioning is pointless really. Its a cynical attempt to try to make out TVI to be the bad guy in all of this - all they did is commission a programme and broadcast it. And if any injunction or other penalty against them were to happen you can bet your life they will appeal as any such precedent could have serious ramifications for all European broadcasters. The Mccan's may have powerful friends perhaps but if they start rattling the cages of broadcasters they will regret it. Biting the hand that feeds springs to mind.

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Post  HiDeHo on Thu 14 Jan - 16:55

Annabel wrote:
HiDeHo wrote:
Annabel wrote:Madeleine's birthday is 12th May

The documentary (as far as I can tell) was April 13th.

So why did Duarte suggest it was shown on her birthday?

I think the documentary was April 30th????

Was the documentary shown beforehand?

My Email sent 15 minutes before it aired ....

From: ***** [mailto:*****@*****.com]
Sent: April 13, 2009 3:13: PM
To: *****, *****
Subject: Madeleine McCann DOCUMENTARY 15mins



Portuguese Documentary Watch here...



http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... ch-it.html 9.25 pm Portugal time 3.25pm EST?

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