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Post  Arguida on Fri 15 Jan - 3:51

Hare wrote:Whats the current situation regarding judicial secrecy in Porugal ?

Didnt the law change to relax the secrecy requirements a couple of months after the McCanns where declared as arguidos ?

There is a telegraph article in September 2007 saying the law changed. The media and various interested parties have the right to access the files. So I would guess Amaral sharing with the media would not be an actual crime. The McCann lawyer is getting up in years and maybe she didn't realize the law had changed.

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Post  Guest on Fri 15 Jan - 9:57

I think there are some good points made here, Gerry complained in 2007 (I think he has certainly made comments but do not know exact dates) about the contents of the file being leaked but at the same time, on his own admission, he was constantly briefing the press and in September 2007 hired Mitchell with that specific purpose in mind. Mitchell was also involved very early on and at the same time they employed Control Risks Group almost immediately with publically donated money and then Justice McGuinness also.

It is vindictive and nasty and will clearly do nothing at all to get Madeleine back. The only thing that could get her back is if they placed her somewhere safe and they tell us where she is. Failing that, with paeodphiles, advertised her? But they tell us there is absolutely no evidence she has come to any harm? Given they were quite properly investigated for MURDER KIDNAPPING CHILD TRAFFICKING and given the PJ obviously know that Goncalo was using this confidential information for his book and have not taken any action to date, where is the sense of proportion from the McCanns? I do think that what he did was wrong, but is wrongs pale into complete insignificance compared with perhaps selling your own child and I am sorry but that is what they have been doing from day one. They wanted book and film deals out of it, but the police case against them prevented them doing most of that, they are clearly quite furious that Goncal manage do to do a book and "just get away with it". Maybe it is about time the McCanns just woke up and smelt the coffee and realised just how serious their own position is and that there is no way they can media manipulate their way out of everyone knowing that.

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Post  Lilemor on Fri 15 Jan - 10:13

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/world/m ... 42012.html


McCanns to lodge ex-detective complaint with Portuguese police
15/01/2010 - 09:21:46

Madeleine McCann’s parents will lodge a complaint with Portuguese police alleging that former detective Goncalo Amaral broke his country’s strict judicial secrecy laws, the couple’s lawyer has said.

Kate and Gerry McCann are already embroiled in legal action against Mr Amaral in an attempt to ban his book which claims their daughter is dead.

Now the couple intend to accuse him formally of passing on information about the police investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance before the case was closed – a criminal offence in Portugal.

The McCanns’ Portuguese lawyer, Isabel Duarte, alleged that Mr Amaral broke the law by sending a draft of his book to his publishers several months before the judicial secrecy period in the case was lifted in July 2008.

She said: “It seems that Goncalo Amaral passed information in the case files before the secrecy was lifted.”

The lawyer also alleged that the ex-policeman released facts about the investigation that were not in the case files.

It will be for the Portuguese public prosecutor to decide whether the former detective has a case to answer.

Mr and Mrs McCann, both 41, from Rothley, Leicestershire in England, flew to Portugal this week to hear Mr Amaral attempt to overturn their ban on his book, 'Maddie: The Truth Of The Lie'.

The ex-policeman called a series of witnesses to support his allegations that Madeleine died in her family’s Algarve holiday flat and that her parents faked her abduction.

The McCanns admitted sitting through the evidence at Lisbon’s main civil court was painful but insisted they were right to bring the case.

The couple could have to endure years of legal battles after Mr Amaral vowed yesterday to fight all the way to the European Court of Human Rights if he loses.

Mr Amaral was the first head of the Portuguese police investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance from Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007, shortly before her fourth birthday.

A judge granted the McCanns a temporary injunction in September last year banning further sale or publication of his book and a TV documentary he made about the case.

Mr Amaral’s lawyers argue that the material in the book is contained in the official Portuguese police files for the investigation, many of which were made public in August 2008.

The McCanns say their main motive for challenging the former policeman is the fear that people will stop looking for their daughter if they think she is dead.

The hearing was adjourned until February 10 when two further witnesses will give evidence for Mr Amaral before the lawyers make closing speeches.

The judge, Maria Gabriela Cunha Rodrigues, is expected to send her ruling directly to the McCanns and Mr Amaral before the end of February.

There will then be a full trial on whether the injunction banning the book should be made permanent at a later date, Ms Duarte said.

The McCanns are also seeking €1.2m in compensation for defamation in separate proceedings against Mr Amaral in Portugal.

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Post  Lilemor on Fri 15 Jan - 10:13

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpres ... PDzK9B6CeQ

McCanns lodge complaint with police

(UKPA) – 23 minutes ago

Madeleine McCann's parents will lodge a complaint with Portuguese police alleging that former detective Goncalo Amaral broke his country's strict judicial secrecy laws, the couple's lawyer said.

Kate and Gerry McCann are already embroiled in legal action against Mr Amaral in an attempt to ban his book which claims their daughter is dead.

Now the couple intend to accuse him formally of passing on information about the police investigation into Madeleine's disappearance before the case was closed - a criminal offence in Portugal.

The McCanns' Portuguese lawyer, Isabel Duarte, alleged that Mr Amaral broke the law by sending a draft of his book to his publishers several months before the judicial secrecy period in the case was lifted in July 2008.

The lawyer also alleged that the ex-policeman released facts about the investigation that were not in the case files.

It will be for the Portuguese public prosecutor to decide whether the former detective has a case to answer.

Mr and Mrs McCann, both 41, from Rothley, Leicestershire, flew to Portugal this week to hear Mr Amaral attempt to overturn their ban on his book, Maddie: The Truth Of The Lie.

The judge, Maria Gabriela Cunha Rodrigues, is expected to send her ruling directly to the McCanns and Mr Amaral before the end of February. There will then be a full trial on whether the injunction banning the book should be made permanent at a later date, Ms Duarte said.

The McCanns are also seeking 1.2 million euro (£1.08 million) in compensation for defamation in separate proceedings against Mr Amaral in Portugal.

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Post  Lilemor on Fri 15 Jan - 10:38

They lodge it WITH PORTUGUESE POLICE....


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Post  Guest on Fri 15 Jan - 11:20

Lilemor wrote:http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpres ... PDzK9B6CeQ

McCanns lodge complaint with police

(UKPA) – 23 minutes ago

Madeleine McCann's parents will lodge a complaint with Portuguese police alleging that former detective Goncalo Amaral broke his country's strict judicial secrecy laws, the couple's lawyer said.

Kate and Gerry McCann are already embroiled in legal action against Mr Amaral in an attempt to ban his book which claims their daughter is dead.

Now the couple intend to accuse him formally of passing on information about the police investigation into Madeleine's disappearance before the case was closed - a criminal offence in Portugal.

The McCanns' Portuguese lawyer, Isabel Duarte, alleged that Mr Amaral broke the law by sending a draft of his book to his publishers several months before the judicial secrecy period in the case was lifted in July 2008.

The lawyer also alleged that the ex-policeman released facts about the investigation that were not in the case files.

It will be for the Portuguese public prosecutor to decide whether the former detective has a case to answer.

Mr and Mrs McCann, both 41, from Rothley, Leicestershire, flew to Portugal this week to hear Mr Amaral attempt to overturn their ban on his book, Maddie: The Truth Of The Lie.

The judge, Maria Gabriela Cunha Rodrigues, is expected to send her ruling directly to the McCanns and Mr Amaral before the end of February. There will then be a full trial on whether the injunction banning the book should be made permanent at a later date, Ms Duarte said.

The McCanns are also seeking 1.2 million euro (£1.08 million) in compensation for defamation in separate proceedings against Mr Amaral in Portugal.

Really? And what about all the leaks that Pinky handed to the Shitish Meedja while the McScum were still arguido? Do the same rules not apply?

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Post  T4two on Fri 15 Jan - 11:35

I take this latest move to smear Dr. Amaral extremely seriously just as I took all the previous attempts which were either thrown out of court or are the subject of an appeal after a courtroom farce. The reason why it is being done is simply to be able to cast aspersions on Dr Amaral's name whenever it is mentioned; hence the one about him misusing legal aid and giving false information concerning his assets etc is already dead therefore a new one had to be invented to take its place. The teaming up of that obnoxious woman from the Sun newspaper with the BBC to 'invent' the smear about Amaral's use of the English F-word shows us clearly the type of scum we are dealing with here. I am confident that Dr. Amaral will continue to present himself as the quiet and reasonable man dedicated to searching for the truth that he undoubtedly is. With every new attempt to smear him he gains in stature.

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as above

Post  halfamo on Fri 15 Jan - 13:04

The Famous Grouse wrote:
Laffin Assasin wrote:Vexticious Litigants, springs to mind !!!

Yeah, first he's fiddled his Legal Aid and now he's published his book three days too early. That is really damning stuff, he should be burnt at the stake for that.

That is just sooooooo sad if it's the best that the Bag Lady can come up with. Hare's right. If I were Gerry I wouldn't pay her bill neither.


Where did you find that T.F.G.Great likeness to our learned friend.

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Post  tanszi on Fri 15 Jan - 13:43

Does anyone know what the facts are which G Amaral released which werent in the PJ files?

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Post  Guest on Fri 15 Jan - 14:30

viv wrote:Handing confidential details of the police file over to his publishers to be printed etc whilst it was still under secrecy of justice and false statements, sorry but this is serious. But is Duarte so confident of winning the civil action they started if she is resorting to this? I guess she probably is, sorry guys but this is real bad IMO.


Debbie I am afraid she can have it both ways, false statements and handing over confidential details of the police files whilst still subject to secrecy of justice are CRIMINAL OFFENCES. On top of the civil action already commenced for defamation. The legal aid is not mentioned in this article, but that may be fraud, not sure we do not have the details.

you are completely joking aren't you? don't you think the POLICE THEMSELVES would have charged him AGES AGO lol

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Post  Guest on Fri 15 Jan - 15:52

I think they know - or at least are very, very scared - that they are about to lose this case. So they are putting Plan B into action.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 15 Jan - 15:54

The Famous Grouse wrote:I think they know - or at least are very, very scared - that they are about to lose this case. So they are putting Plan B into action.

I think they're scratching around for whatever they can find.

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Post  oliver on Fri 15 Jan - 16:00

amythest - what a eureka moment i thought
with all this shite being sprayed about, its hard to look at simplicity
and you have!

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Post  fedrules on Fri 15 Jan - 16:02

Me too famous. Don't think violation of secrecy is a big offence anyway. Remember a journalist interviewed on Panorama said it was quite usual for details to be provided to the media in spite of this law. Of course the McCanns claimed they stuck to it rigidly, but then they used it as an excuse not to answer any searching questions!!

This report is on Telegraph website with a rather unflattering photo of McCann looking pugnacious and Kate hard-faced.

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Post  Lilemor on Fri 15 Jan - 16:15

Joana Morais said that not only the McCanns work with lodging compliants...

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 15 Jan - 16:21

Lilemor wrote:Joana Morais said that not only the McCanns work with lodging compliants...

Yayyyyyy Joana.....yayyyyy!!!!

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 15 Jan - 16:27

Lilemor wrote:Joana Morais said that not only the McCanns work with lodging compliants...

What an amazing photo on Joana's blog. Kate looks like Scraggy Aggy and Gerry looks like he's just won the lottery!

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Post  jay2001 on Fri 15 Jan - 16:51

What about when Justine McG was blabbing about her and Kate texting in the police station so they could make the news. Giggling like a naughty school girl and they were in a very serious situation. Has it all been a game to these people?

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Post  Judge Dread on Fri 15 Jan - 19:19

Looking very bad for Amaral! Are you having a laugh!

On the contrary, it's looking very bad for the McCann's.

After two and a half years of McCann lies and propaganda, the other side of the coin is finally being aired all around the world, (the last thing the McCann's would have wanted to happen!).

They surely know they are very likely going to lose this case and it's so blatantly obvious that they are now desperately trying to muddy the waters where Amaral is concerned, in any straw clutching and ridiculous way they can.

It's absolutely pathetic, and so are they. In fact, it beggars belief that they continue pushing on with what is now an utter farce!

They, and Team McCann must realise by now that the gig is up! That thanks to this case, (a case they themselves brought about), virtually everybody on the planet can now see the real truth of the lie!

Good ol' Kate 'n' Gerry really have become their own worst enemies and will very shortly be the true architects of their own impending downfall!


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Post  oliver on Fri 15 Jan - 19:24

here here

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Post  fred on Fri 15 Jan - 19:48

It's looking bloody good for Amaral. The McCanns are just repeating a mantra,"There is no evidence to suggest Madeleine is dead" that is all they say, they backed the wrong horse when they took on Amaral.

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Post  Guest on Fri 15 Jan - 20:31

I think the McCanns really like the doggy/death theory being run and run, it is a marvellous money earner for them.

They deliberately blocked TVI from running their own Channel 4 documentary even though it clearly casts them in a favourable light. Do you think when they did that they had one eye on the money, what this has always been about. They are not just suing Goncalo Amaral but the publisher and TV company also. That way they make sure they get their cash.

Same cynical plot with the Daily Express, firstly one sits back and waits for at least 12 months for lots of erm "libel" to have been done to them, that puts the damages bill up. They wait until there is so much of this doggy story being repeated they just cannot fail. They have lawyers and they know doggies cannot give evidence of any death in court. They know there is no other evidence. The nice man from the press complaints commission said to Gerry, now look Gerry I can intervene and stop the Daily Express, I can do this privately with the minimum of fuss to protect you, Kate and your reputations. What did Gerry say, no don't you dare, we want to sue them! Now if you think about these two examples very carefully maybe you will spot a game plan going on. They do not give a toss about the doggy stories, they love them, they want them oft repeated, they do not want the stories countered or stopped, that would stop the cash tills ringing.

As for am I joking? Well Goncalo Amaral is saying that if the court make a permanent injunction he will fight it through the courts and go all the way to the European Court of Human Rights. Now does it sound like he thinks he is going to win? I believe the Judge will do what British Police want her to do, shut both the McCanns and Goncalo Amaral up.

Very good article covering both points here, not allowed to copy it:

http://www.algarveresident.com/story.asp?SID=158

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Post  Guest on Fri 15 Jan - 20:45

so...they block the TV company from running a favourable McCann documentary to put their side of the story across in Portugal and then they sue them for a million quid for erm yes defaming them. This is why SOCA find the McCanns so fascinating. They have a Maddie Cash Till

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Post  Judge Dread on Fri 15 Jan - 22:48

I have to disagree with you Viv, I think Amaral is very confident he will win this case. Look at the difference between him and the McCann's. He, extremely relaxed and buoyant! They, sullen, unsure and losing it big time!

But, in any event, after all he's been through to get this far in the search for the truth of what really happened to Maddie, do you honestly think that if, (and that's a very big if), Amaral loses the case he is just going to roll over and give up! Of course he's not! And why should he!

To date, he is the only person on the planet to stand up to the McCann's. The only person prepared to see them in court!

All he is quite rightly saying, (particularly to the McCann's) is that if, (and it's a big if), he loses, he will not give up the fight but will take it all the way.

And I think he deserves a lot of credit for that!


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Post  Guest on Sat 16 Jan - 1:31

I think you support Goncalo for what you see are all the best reasons, but he has made himself anti establishment. Do you seriously think a Judge will be able to approve of that?

He said he would prove Madeleine died in the apartment on no more than the dogs findings which is not proof of that at all, as we have heard. How is that searching for the truth?

He could have written a book based upon all the other evidence that led the police to know from day one, the McCanns were involved in her disappearance. Why did he need to insist she is dead, he could have done the McCanns far more harm and himself far less harm!

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