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Tweets (Twitter) regarding the verdict

Post  Lilemor on Mon 22 Feb - 23:52

#Miranda: "... The Fundamental Rights are given by the State". "Therefor the Rights of Personality are above the Fundamental Rights"
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rupial #Miranda:"The Rights of Personality are born with the
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rupial #Miranda:"The Rights of Personality presume equality
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rupial Professor Jorge Miranda states: "The Fundamental
Rights presumes power relations among them.
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rupial Hope I brought interesting information to this issue.
Thanks again.
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For this reason, and eventually others to which I can't acess, the #McCann vs #Amaral's judge decided to keep the injunction.
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without breaking the system's unity".
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as #Miranda states "no Right is absolutely streched and every new Right has to coexist with all the other Rights, ...
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was not able to give full and definitive envidence, the #McCann vs #Amaral's judge decided to prevail the Right to Dignity, because ...
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when put face to face two Constitutional Rights,The Freedom of Speach and The Right to Dignity and Legal Protection, and because Mr. #Amaral
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However, Mr. #Amaral has all the possibilities to express himself, onc he has the Right of Freedom of Speach. But...
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Mr. #Amaral defended a thesis for wich he was unable to give a definitive evidence.
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#McCann vs #Amaral: ... and The Right to Dignity and Legal Protection, Article 37 and Article 26 of the Portuguese Constitution
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According to the #McCann vs #Amaral's veredict, there were two Rights that were opposing to each other: The Right of Freedom Speach...
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I'm back. Now with the #McCann vs #Amaral's veredict.
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Post  lea on Mon 22 Feb - 23:57

Mr. #Amaral defended a thesis for wich he was unable to give a definitive evidence.
summs it up.

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Post  lea on Mon 22 Feb - 23:59

thanks for posting this lilemor

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Post  lea on Tue 23 Feb - 0:37

so this is the main reason ,The Fundamental Rights are given by the State". "Therefor the Rights of Personality are above the Fundamental Rights"

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Post  Lilemor on Tue 23 Feb - 8:01

lea wrote:so this is the main reason ,The Fundamental Rights are given by the State". "Therefor the Rights of Personality are above the Fundamental Rights"

Yes, Lea.
And it is - imo - because there is NO conviction.
The judge could have decided differently, I am sure of.
Especially after the imo unbearable behaviour of the McCanns since May 2007.
Amarals book is based on opinions. Opinions which are based on facts.
And it is not only Dr. Amaral who shared these opinions.
He never wrote: Person x killed M. ....
Never ever did he state that in his book.
He is gagged from giving his opinion.
He is prevented from presenting facts.
NO LIES AT ALL in his book.
To be honest, I don┤t know if it the judges decision is 1▀▀% okay!
A jury would have been much better!!!
I would have tried to request a jury.

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Post  Lizzy11268 on Tue 23 Feb - 8:11

Lilemor wrote:
lea wrote:so this is the main reason ,The Fundamental Rights are given by the State". "Therefor the Rights of Personality are above the Fundamental Rights"

Yes, Lea.
And it is - imo - because there is NO conviction.
The judge could have decided differently, I am sure of.
Especially after the imo unbearable behaviour of the McCanns since May 2007.
Amarals book is based on opinions. Opinions which are based on facts.
And it is not only Dr. Amaral who shared these opinions.
He never wrote: Person x killed M. ....
Never ever did he state that in his book.
He is gagged from giving his opinion.
He is prevented from presenting facts.
NO LIES AT ALL in his book.
To be honest, I don┤t know if it the judges decision is 1▀▀% okay!
A jury would have been much better!!!
I would have tried to request a jury.

I understand why there is no jury though. Given the attititude of the Portugese general public towards Gerry and Kate they wouldnt even need to hear any evidence

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Post  jinvta on Tue 23 Feb - 8:21

Lilemor, I agree. The book is all facts, and opinions shared by others that are based on facts. The McCanns can yell "abduction" with no proof whatsoever at the expense of Portugal and its fine people, yet Amaral is not allowed to state his rational conclusions as shared by other investigators.

Following are Amaral's conclusions as given in the book:

It is now important to present a summary of this case, based on our deductions: reject what is false, throw out what we can't show with sufficient certainty and validate that which can be proven.

1. The theory of abduction was defended from the start by Maddie's parents.

2. In their group, only the McCanns state that they saw the bedroom window open. The others cannot confirm it since they arrived at the apartment after the alert was raised.

3. The only person to have seen that window open with the shutters raised is Amy, one of the play workers from the children's centre of the Ocean Club. She made that observation at around 10.20/1030pm, which means well after the alert - which doesn't exclude that the window could have been closed at the time of the criminal act.

4. The witness statements raise a great number of inaccuracies, inconsistencies and contradictions. Jane Tanner's witness statement in favour of the theory of abduction is probably false: little by little it has lost all credibility because of successive modifications introduced by Jane, modifications that have ended up invalidating it.

5. The body, the existence of which has been confirmed by the EVRD and CSI dogs but also by the results of the preliminary laboratory analyses, cannot be found.

The conclusions my team and I have arrived at are the following:

1. The minor, Madeleine McCann died inside apartment 5A of the Ocean Club in Vila da Luz, on the night of May 3rd 2007;

2. There was simulation of abduction.

3. Kate Healy and Gerald McCann were probably involved in the concealment of their daughter's body.

4. The death may have occurred as a result of a tragic accident;

5. The evidence proves the parents' negligence concerning the care and safety of the children.

The sun is going down over this beautiful countryside. Children are playing under the watchful gaze of their parents. I think about the enthusiasm that was characteristic of him when I met Tavares in November 1981, at the judiciary police school, and which still fires him. The past seems distant, but it's not forgotten. We gave the best of ourselves to resolve this case. Our conclusions rest on the proven facts and the evidence interpreted within the principles of the law. Our work was done in the cause of justice, based on the material truth, the only thing that must prevail in a universe where the lie is raised up as truth.

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Re: Tweets (Twitter) regarding the verdict

Post  lea on Tue 23 Feb - 9:45

Lilemor wrote:
lea wrote:so this is the main reason ,The Fundamental Rights are given by the State". "Therefor the Rights of Personality are above the Fundamental Rights"

Yes, Lea.
And it is - imo - because there is NO conviction.
The judge could have decided differently, I am sure of.
Especially after the imo unbearable behaviour of the McCanns since May 2007.
Amarals book is based on opinions. Opinions which are based on facts.
And it is not only Dr. Amaral who shared these opinions.
He never wrote: Person x killed M. ....
Never ever did he state that in his book.
He is gagged from giving his opinion.
He is prevented from presenting facts.
NO LIES AT ALL in his book.
To be honest, I don┤t know if it the judges decision is 1▀▀% okay!
A jury would have been much better!!!
I would have tried to request a jury.

yes i agree,what about Amarals right for dignity?
he only wrote what was in the files,
he has been treated terribly by our press ,
i do feel for him and his family,
the mccs behaviour has been shameful and they dont deserve any dignity until they cooperate with the pj and start answering some questions.

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Post  Carolina on Tue 23 Feb - 13:42

Jinvta: Those conclusions at the end of the book are not those of Gonšalo Amaral but those of the report dated 10 September 2007 by the Inspector Tavares de Almeida.

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Post  kitti on Tue 23 Feb - 14:00

Was it kate or gerry mccann that said.....we thank the judge blah blah and it proved that mr amaral was lieing in the book.

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Post  Lilemor on Tue 23 Feb - 14:06

kitti wrote:Was it kate or gerry mccann that said.....we thank the judge blah blah and it proved that mr amaral was lieing in the book.

Yes.
THEY lied ("Amaral was lying in the book")!!!
BUT nobody sues THEM...
For THEIR lies.

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Post  MaryB on Tue 23 Feb - 14:18

This is what worries me. If Mr Amaral is gagged then are others free to tell their version. There are two different issues here. Was Madeleine abducted or not. Did the police officers on the case suspect she was not abducted. Ny answer would be. There is not enough evidence to prove conclusively that Madeleine was abducted. And also yes some of the police officers did suspect she might not have been abducted. That is why the case must be re-opened and every avenue re-checked. Including the possibility she may have wandered off.

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Post  Lilemor on Tue 23 Feb - 15:02

Finally I do not understand why Dr. Amaral does not sue them for their lies.
Or Mr. Paiva or de Almeida or whoever from the PJ.
Thy are the humans who are in the know.

What about the shutter-issue, for example?

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Post  MissGivings on Tue 23 Feb - 15:09

Lilemor wrote:Finally I do not understand why Dr. Amaral does not sue them for their lies.
Or Mr. Paiva or de Almeida or whoever from the PJ.
What about the shutter-issue, for example?


Lilemor, I can't understand why he doesn't either. I read or heard in one of his interviews or newspaper interviews that he was thinking about it, so why hasn't he? Perhaps it is going through the system, we know how long ago R Murat filed this case that is going on right now. Mr. Amaral's reputation has been tarnished, and his livelehood taken away. The press have called him all manner of things and I'm sure there at least he would have a very strong case.

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