Founder of Missing Children SA was a paedophile - and the McCanns sought his help

AnnaEsse wrote:
From the beginning I never saw those two as a close couple, especially when they never looked at each other during interviews: no supportive and caring glances. When Gonçalo Amaral was asked outside the court in Lisbon if he had seen the McCann couple, his response was that he had not seen 'any couple,' which imo was his way of saying they're not 'a couple.'

And its the same story with the new football pictures being discussed in the other thread. Their body language is very obvious.

docmac wrote:

AnnaEsse wrote:
From the beginning I never saw those two as a close couple, especially when they never looked at each other during interviews: no supportive and caring glances. When Gonçalo Amaral was asked outside the court in Lisbon if he had seen the McCann couple, his response was that he had not seen 'any couple,' which imo was his way of saying they're not 'a couple.'

And its the same story with the new football pictures being discussed in the other thread. Their body language is very obvious.

Just what I was thinking. They look like strangers, who just happen to be standing next to each other.

AnnaEsse wrote:

docmac wrote:

Porky wrote:Docmac, I wouldn't be too hard on yourself if I were you for being acquainted with this apology for a human being.

Even couples who have been married for years have been known to discover some dark secret about their other half so if one can conceal certain traits from the person they live with then a neighbour is no problem. Who really knows the true self of even those close to us? Scarey stuff but nonetheless a fact of life!

Makes you wonder whether all is togetherness at Rothley Castle don't it?

Porky, I strongly believe that what transpired in Portugal put a spanner in the works for someone who was about to leave someone else, if you get my drift.

From the beginning I never saw those two as a close couple, especially when they never looked at each other during interviews: no supportive and caring glances. When Gonçalo Amaral was asked outside the court in Lisbon if he had seen the McCann couple, his response was that he had not seen 'any couple,' which imo was his way of saying they're not 'a couple.'

I agree, Mr Gerrys remark " F,,k off im not here to enjoy myself" was all about them being on that hoilday to save their marriage,this is just a mans opinion.

AnnaEsse wrote:

docmac wrote:

Porky wrote:Docmac, I wouldn't be too hard on yourself if I were you for being acquainted with this apology for a human being.

Even couples who have been married for years have been known to discover some dark secret about their other half so if one can conceal certain traits from the person they live with then a neighbour is no problem. Who really knows the true self of even those close to us? Scarey stuff but nonetheless a fact of life!

Makes you wonder whether all is togetherness at Rothley Castle don't it?

Porky, I strongly believe that what transpired in Portugal put a spanner in the works for someone who was about to leave someone else, if you get my drift.

From the beginning I never saw those two as a close couple, especially when they never looked at each other during interviews: no supportive and caring glances. When Gonçalo Amaral was asked outside the court in Lisbon if he had seen the McCann couple, his response was that he had not seen 'any couple,' which imo was his way of saying they're not 'a couple.'

No indeed, there has never been any conclusive evidence of their togetherness. From the many interviews circulated in the media and subsequently on the internet we can see distinct attempts by Gerry Mccann to silence his wife presumably to prevent her from 'putting her proverbial foot in it'! Apart from the evidence that indicates his preference for controlling everything and everybody, even in times of extreme stress they appear to be estranged which one would hope is not usual for a devoted couple.

However, the silent ones are quite often the most dangerous!

I would agree......... The holding of hands and the togetherness just doesn't look spontanious....... All staged as far as I can see............

MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY OF SUBJECT,BUT some `antis' have received death threats from south africa

Badboy wrote:MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY OF SUBJECT,BUT some `antis' have received death threats from south africa

Very interesting. Were these telephonic threats, with an 027 prefix?

Oh my God,
Just realized who this guy is, a friend of mine paid him a R2000.00 + a full months rent,to share the flat he was in,when he went to move in this Boshoff guy would not let him in. Words were exchanged and arguments etc.Then it comes out he was still advertising the flat on Gumtree, he was reported and the ad taken off of Gumtree.Then while they were sorting it all out he threw himself off the balcony. My friend was feeling very guilty and thought he was somehow to blame for Boshoffs death as some angry exchanges took place.I never realized who he was but will say he was a nut-case and kept saying " you don't know who I am ". We kept on saying really, well you don't know who we are either so just pay us the money back. He never got his Money back seems he had been doing it quite a while.... and he kept saying he was friends of Helen Zille !
Small world eh !

jozi wrote:Oh my God,
Just realized who this guy is, a friend of mine paid him a R2000.00 + a full months rent,to share the flat he was in,when he went to move in this Boshoff guy would not let him in. Words were exchanged and arguments etc.Then it comes out he was still advertising the flat on Gumtree, he was reported and the ad taken off of Gumtree.Then while they were sorting it all out he threw himself off the balcony. My friend was feeling very guilty and thought he was somehow to blame for Boshoffs death as some angry exchanges took place.I never realized who he was but will say he was a nut-case and kept saying " you don't know who I am ". We kept on saying really, well you don't know who we are either so just pay us the money back. He never got his Money back seems he had been doing it quite a while.... and he kept saying he was friends of Helen Zille !
Small world eh !

Jozi

Sorry for your friend. He was far from alone in being taken for a ride by this creature. It is indeed a small world. Though I'm far enough away from Jozi thank goodness.

docmac wrote:

jozi wrote:Oh my God,
Just realized who this guy is, a friend of mine paid him a R2000.00 + a full months rent,to share the flat he was in,when he went to move in this Boshoff guy would not let him in. Words were exchanged and arguments etc.Then it comes out he was still advertising the flat on Gumtree, he was reported and the ad taken off of Gumtree.Then while they were sorting it all out he threw himself off the balcony. My friend was feeling very guilty and thought he was somehow to blame for Boshoffs death as some angry exchanges took place.I never realized who he was but will say he was a nut-case and kept saying " you don't know who I am ". We kept on saying really, well you don't know who we are either so just pay us the money back. He never got his Money back seems he had been doing it quite a while.... and he kept saying he was friends of Helen Zille !
Small world eh !

Jozi

Sorry for your friend. He was far from alone in being taken for a ride by this creature. It is indeed a small world. Though I'm far enough away from Jozi thank goodness.

Hi There,
Nothing wrong with Jozi except ??? I moved to the Cape 6 Yrs ago, it is a small world.

jozi wrote:

Hi There,
Nothing wrong with Jozi except ??? I moved to the Cape 6 Yrs ago, it is a small world.

No TM, no sea and worst of all, no winelands. A belated welcome to CT!

And here is some more on this fellow.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/boshoff-s-secret-double-life-1.690082

docmac wrote:And here is some more on this fellow.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/boshoff-s-secret-double-life-1.690082

Ahh, makes perfect sense after reading that, he certainly did not seem like a raving queer when my friend agreed to share the flat with him , that did not come out until he was trying to get his money back.
Then he went into drama queen mode. Wow, I'm still shocked of who he is, we were only speaking about it last week, then to log on here and find out its him.

But the weather is hot, hot, hot in jozi and no wind.

docmac wrote:

Badboy wrote:MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY OF SUBJECT,BUT some `antis' have received death threats from south africa

Very interesting. Were these telephonic threats, with an 027 prefix?

quite POSSIBLY,interestingly there was a 027 number in the released files.

jozi wrote:

docmac wrote:And here is some more on this fellow.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/boshoff-s-secret-double-life-1.690082

Ahh, makes perfect sense after reading that, he certainly did not seem like a raving queer when my friend agreed to share the flat with him , that did not come out until he was trying to get his money back.
Then he went into drama queen mode. Wow, I'm still shocked of who he is, we were only speaking about it last week, then to log on here and find out its him.

But the weather is hot, hot, hot in jozi and no wind.

Yes, he seemed to be a very straight down the line asexual do-gooder. There are many of them around here. Now I'm watching my kid's back!

No wind = smog.

Badboy wrote:...interestingly there was a 027 number in the released files.

I'm willing to bet that 027 was a mobile number, not an international dialling code. If not it would be all the more interesting.

Doc, I came late to this thread. I am sooo sorry! It does give you one hell of a shock when you find out and you had no idea!

It happened to me a number of years ago with an ex student of mine. I had taught him for three years, he seemed a nice enough laddie if a wee bit scatty. Next thing we all knew, he was up in the High Court for attempting to rape a young boy who had come round on an errand for his mother. None of us would ever have believed it possible.

I was also quite shocked to see that someone being accused in Hollie Greig's paedophile ring is an ex-boss of mine. I didn't know him that well but I still can't get my head quite round it.

docmac wrote:

There was a huge shock awaiting local newspaper readers here this morning. Pieter Boshoff, the founder and ex head of Missing children SA, has been exposed as a paedophile. He will not have to face justice, as he committed suicide just a few weeks back. I am sad to say that I was acquainted with the man - he lived around the corner - and had absolutely no idea of his other side. The article makes it quite clear that he was very popular with an assortment of high fliers in Cape Town and further afield. His reputation and that of the organisation even alerted the McCanns - he was contacted and asked for help by John McCann in 2007.

http://m.iol.co.za/article/view/s/11/a/29734

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Maddie-SA-group-asked-to-help-20071008

What a bastard!!

From above link:

"Somebody they know told them"

Wonder who the someone, the McCanns knew, was?

The Famous Grouse wrote:Doc, I came late to this thread. I am sooo sorry! It does give you one hell of a shock when you find out and you had no idea!

It happened to me a number of years ago with an ex student of mine. I had taught him for three years, he seemed a nice enough laddie if a wee bit scatty. Next thing we all knew, he was up in the High Court for attempting to rape a young boy who had come round on an errand for his mother. None of us would ever have believed it possible.

I was also quite shocked to see that someone being accused in Hollie Greig's paedophile ring is an ex-boss of mine. I didn't know him that well but I still can't get my head quite round it.

I had an experience of disbelief a few years ago (around 14 years!) A young man whom I had become friendly with through going to the same Tai Chi class, arrived at my house one day very distressed. His landlord in whose house he had been renting a room, had been arrested as a suspected paedophile and the young man wanted to distance himself (OK, I was a bit naive to be taken in, but he did seem very nice) so he was going to his mum's and could he leave his car outside my house? No problem, I said.

Well, in the night, I kind of half woke up to orange lights swirling round my bedroom like a fun fair, but I didn't look out the window because I didn't properly wake up. The following day, the car was gone and when I phoned the police, I was told that it had been 'lifted,' in the night. My suggestion that if they had knocked on the door, I could have given them the keys, didn't go down very well! Anyway, I later found out that the 'landlord,' was the young man's gay partner and that he had been helping this man run a computer business and that thousands of images of child abuse had been found and also that the young man was being charged with abusing a child!

Indirectly appertaining to this thread, it's extraordinary how clan Mccann thought it necessary to spread their 'private' investigation globally. They are British, they mislaid their daughter in Portugal (Europe) and yet mysteriously they latch onto an assortment of fraudsters to assist with the search!?! Why South Africa? Short of other favoured locations to put us off the scent, New Zealand and Australia, you couldn't get much further away from the hub of the investigation. We even have another SA connection, the infamous Danie Krugal and his patent instant infallible body detector. Why South Africa, what is the connection?

Then we have a connection with the USA. Geralds trip to Washington, the Oprah appearance, Halligans bogus company, the unreliable doggy story, a Mccann relative in Canada. Why did they take their ficticious 'search' as far away as possible from the crime scene? Apart from the obvious reason, to create further confusion, I can't imagine what they hoped to gain by involving countries worldwide that had no apparent connection with disappearance of their child. OK, the illusive 'abductor' could have spirited her away to anywhere in the world but who better to pursue such possibilites as the official police force. They have experience, international contacts and I hope cooperation, effective technology so why waste time and money on dubious characters that have little or in some cases no experience in locating missing children?

Of course the answer is fairly obvious but still I wonder why South Africa! Could it be for the same reason as they chose Portugal for their holiday, the same reason they decided upon Morocco as a likely destination for harbouring a missing child, the same reason they selected a Spanish team of private investigators to assist in the non-search ~ because they underestimate their ability?

Porky wrote:Why South Africa, what is the connection?

Why SA indeed! Missing children SA was founded only 2 months before Maddie died was murdered disappeared. So how in the world had they developed the kind of renown that might have alerted the McCanns by October that year? Something odd in that.

docmac wrote:

Porky wrote:Why South Africa, what is the connection?

Why SA indeed! Missing children SA was founded only 2 months before Maddie died was murdered disappeared. So how in the world had they developed the kind of renown that might have alerted the McCanns by October that year? Something odd in that.

Yes, something very 'odd' in that! Apart from the SA connection being somewhat ambiguous in itself as far as it concerns the populace, the populace that they have moved heaven and earth to delude, any logical thinking person would query why they chose to engage the services/assistance of people and/or organisations so far removed from the place of their daughters disappearance. Did they not realise that such an outlandish route would create suspicion?

Ignoring for the moment Danie Krugal because he is obviously a self confessed genius so we can't argue with him but from the point of view of this latest fraudulant creep, what possible use could he be or any other SA based organisation to assisting the search of a little child missing in Europe? Especially a little child that is not 'missing' in the true sense of the word!

Porky wrote:

docmac wrote:

Porky wrote:Why South Africa, what is the connection?

Why SA indeed! Missing children SA was founded only 2 months before Maddie died was murdered disappeared. So how in the world had they developed the kind of renown that might have alerted the McCanns by October that year? Something odd in that.

Yes, something very 'odd' in that! Apart from the SA connection being somewhat ambiguous in itself as far as it concerns the populace, the populace that they have moved heaven and earth to delude, any logical thinking person would query why they chose to engage the services/assistance of people and/or organisations so far removed from the place of their daughters disappearance. Did they not realise that such an outlandish route would create suspicion?

Ignoring for the moment Danie Krugal because he is obviously a self confessed genius so we can't argue with him but from the point of view of this latest fraudulant creep, what possible use could he be or any other SA based organisation to assisting the search of a little child missing in Europe? Especially a little child that is not 'missing' in the true sense of the word!

http://m.iol.co.za/article/view/s/11/a/29734

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Maddie-SA-group-asked-to-help-20071008

From 0P link:


Cape Town - The McCann family has contacted a South African volunteer organisation, Missing Children, to ask for their help, after hearing about the organisation's high success rate in finding missing children.

Madeleine McCann's uncle, John McCann, called Missing Children director, Pieter Boshoff, on Sunday.

"Somebody they know told them we are very successful in finding missing children here in South Africa," Boshoff told News24 on Monday.

Missing Children has, since its inception in March 2007, worked closely with police and its volunteer network to help find missing children. "The success rate this year in the recovery of children is 83% in the Western Cape," said Boshoff.


"Somebody they know told them"

Wonder who the someone, the McCanns knew, was?.

zodiac wrote:

Porky wrote:

docmac wrote:

Porky wrote:Why South Africa, what is the connection?

Why SA indeed! Missing children SA was founded only 2 months before Maddie died was murdered disappeared. So how in the world had they developed the kind of renown that might have alerted the McCanns by October that year? Something odd in that.

Yes, something very 'odd' in that! Apart from the SA connection being somewhat ambiguous in itself as far as it concerns the populace, the populace that they have moved heaven and earth to delude, any logical thinking person would query why they chose to engage the services/assistance of people and/or organisations so far removed from the place of their daughters disappearance. Did they not realise that such an outlandish route would create suspicion?

Ignoring for the moment Danie Krugal because he is obviously a self confessed genius so we can't argue with him but from the point of view of this latest fraudulant creep, what possible use could he be or any other SA based organisation to assisting the search of a little child missing in Europe? Especially a little child that is not 'missing' in the true sense of the word!

http://m.iol.co.za/article/view/s/11/a/29734

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Maddie-SA-group-asked-to-help-20071008

From 0P link:


Cape Town - The McCann family has contacted a South African volunteer organisation, Missing Children, to ask for their help, after hearing about the organisation's high success rate in finding missing children.

Madeleine McCann's uncle, John McCann, called Missing Children director, Pieter Boshoff, on Sunday.

"Somebody they know told them we are very successful in finding missing children here in South Africa," Boshoff told News24 on Monday.

Missing Children has, since its inception in March 2007, worked closely with police and its volunteer network to help find missing children. "The success rate this year in the recovery of children is 83% in the Western Cape," said Boshoff.


"Somebody they know told them"

Wonder who the someone, the McCanns knew, was?.

Quite!

The mind boggles!
Interestingly,there are a fair number of south africans living around pdl.
Its seems that south africa has a problem with ch*ld p*orn,look on internet for more information.