Paedos and rapists may be allowed to appeal against at risk register

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23923688-paedophiles-and-rapists-to-appeal-over-sex-register-naming.do
David Cameron declares war on human rights judges over 'appalling' sex offenders ruling
Joe Murphy and Martin Bentham
16 Feb 2011


The Prime Minister declared war on the Supreme Court this afternoon over its decision to let sex offenders appeal against being kept on a police register for life.

Clearly angered, David Cameron described the ruling by leading judges as "offensive and appalling".

Thousands of sex offenders could start moves to have their names removed after the Supreme Court said that not giving them the right of appeal was incompatible with their human rights to privacy. Home Secretary Theresa May vowed to restore "sanity" to Britain's legal system in the wake of the ruling.

Mr Cameron signalled he will launch a commission "to look at a British bill of rights" to strengthen Parliament's say in such matters. "It's about time we started making sure decisions are made in this Parliament rather than in the courts," he told the Commons. Mr Cameron broadened his attack to encompass over-regulation by the European Commission and even a ruling that it was sexist to give women drivers a discount on their motoring insurance.

His fiery comments imply that he is prepared to risk a Cabinet split to establish that elected MPs should be able to trump the Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights which was behind a separate ruling to allow prisoners to vote.

In squaring up to the courts, he risks upsetting Nick Clegg and other Liberal Democrats as well as Justice Secretary Kenneth Clarke.

The Prime Minister said there was "broad support" across the country to make sex offenders sign the register for life. "I am appalled by the Supreme Court ruling," he said. "We will take the minimum possible approach to this ruling."

Tory MP Philip Davies said voters were "sick to the back teeth" at seeing criminals get human rights rulings in their favour.

The Prime Minister replied: "You speak for many people when you say how completely offensive it is to have, once again, a ruling by a court that seems to fly completely in the face of common sense."

Mrs May told MPs the judgment put the rights of offenders involved in the "cruellest and most degrading" of crimes ahead of those of the public to be protected from their "predatory" behaviour. Mrs May also denounced judges for "incredible" decisions which had allowed "al Qaeda" extremists with "terrorist intent" to remain in the country to protect their human rights.

It was now time to ensure that it was "Parliament that makes our laws, not the courts" and that the Government would now seek to draw up a British Bill of Rights to bring "sanity" to such cases. The Home Secretary's criticism follows a ruling by the Supreme Court last year which gave a rapist, who was 11 at the time, and another sex attacker the right to apply to have their names removed from the register.

The court's president, Lord Phillips, and four other judges agreed with the offenders that the current rules requiring them to remain on the register for life were a breach of their right to a private family life. Mrs May said the Government had to obey the court, but accused judges of siding with offenders.

"The Government is disappointed and appalled by this ruling. It places the rights of sex offenders above the right of the public to be protected from the risk of re-offending," she told the Commons. "It is time to assert that it is Parliament that makes our laws, not the courts; that the rights of the public come before the rights of criminals; and above all, that we have a legal framework that brings sanity to cases such as these."

The Home Secretary said she also found it "incredible that we are not able to deport people who are linked with al Qaeda and have terrorist intent in this country" because of human rights laws.
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It's about time we had a say in what happens to the deviants who break our laws... We need a referendum on our membership of the paedophile, pervert and criminal appreciation society which the EU is becoming

Come on Cameron at least give the British people a say in what should happen to the deviants infringing OUR and our children's human rights.

I agree this is appalling - but doubt that Cameron is going to be able to do anything about all these Human Rights we have signed up to - (thanks to Brown was it ?) but what's just as galling is the piece in The Sunday Telegraph - now these criminals are suing for the rights to benefit.

Link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8335846/Rapists-and-killers-demand-right-to-benefits.html


"Rapists and killers demand right to benefits
Murderers and rapists locked up in psychiatric hospitals are challenging the British Government in a test case at the European Court of Human Rights which could see them win full State benefits........."

I am beginning to think seriously that we have become so weak-willed in this country that the EU is going to bleed us dry (as my Papa used to say before we joined).

Not wanting to 'frighten the horses' but there is much more of this type of thing to come - heaven knows what else we have to fork out for in the future. I would say that anyone who is here illegally and wanting to permanently live in GB should hastily form a relationship with a wood lice - apparently even pets can give you a right to stay here!

You will remember the speech Cameron gave recently in Germany about British values - well not wanting to be too hyper - but I believe this speech was made for a purpose - his insurance policy if you like. I think so much "bad news" will be coming down the pipe-line that people may start to protest - in the streets.

Angelique wrote:I agree this is appalling - but doubt that Cameron is going to be able to do anything about all these Human Rights we have signed up to - (thanks to Brown was it ?) but what's just as galling is the piece in The Sunday Telegraph - now these criminals are suing for the rights to benefit.

Link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8335846/Rapists-and-killers-demand-right-to-benefits.html


"Rapists and killers demand right to benefits
Murderers and rapists locked up in psychiatric hospitals are challenging the British Government in a test case at the European Court of Human Rights which could see them win full State benefits........."

I am beginning to think seriously that we have become so weak-willed in this country that the EU is going to bleed us dry (as my Papa used to say before we joined).

Not wanting to 'frighten the horses' but there is much more of this type of thing to come - heaven knows what else we have to fork out for in the future. I would say that anyone who is here illegally and wanting to permanently live in GB should hastily form a relationship with a wood lice - apparently even pets can give you a right to stay here!

You will remember the speech Cameron gave recently in Germany about British values - well not wanting to be too hyper - but I believe this speech was made for a purpose - his insurance policy if you like. I think so much "bad news" will be coming down the pipe-line that people may start to protest - in the streets.

It may well come to that in the not to distant future Angelique, events in the middle east seem to show that the only way to get anything out of the 'elite' who are running the show is to pull up a few cobbles......

first rep point of the day to you, malena, very well said
these politicians seem to forget that they are employed by us, the taxpayer
and they are working for us, not the other way about

ETA: Roy Whiting had been released after serving five years of a ten year sentence for a very serious assault on a small child.

The Famous Grouse wrote:first rep point of the day to you, malena, very well said
these politicians seem to forget that they are employed by us, the taxpayer
and they are working for us, not the other way about

Thanks TFG,
They continually forget this fact. Historically politicians of all parties use the power at their disposal for personal aggrandizement and, when challenged are prepared to use force to protect themselves. The Tory Government were prepared in May 1926 to use armed force on the civil population during the General Strike, having a plan already in place should a challenge to their investments occur. More recently the use of the Police as strike breakers in the miners strike shows them still to be ready to oppress real grievance by brute force.
Sorry... rant over.
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