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Freedom of Speech, the McCanns, and Searching for Maddie/Pat Brown
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2011/11/freedom-of-speech-mccanns-and-searching.html
by Pat Brown
I have been getting a lot of questions about my search fund to be established with monies from the sale of my book, Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Some of the stuff certain folks are saying is seriously ridiculous, so I thought it best I make a clear statement with simple points they can understand.
1. I am not giving or receiving any monies from the McCanns' search fund.
2. At present, 50% of monies received from the sale of the Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann will go to the Pat Brown Maddie Search Fund. The other 50% earned from the book is income, not donations. I am selling a product and do not have to donate all earnings (or any) to charitable causes. I have chosen to donate 50% of the book's earnings to my search fund.
3. The Pat Brown Maddie Search Fund monies will be not be spent on a personal salary (any time spent will be pro bono). Monies will be used for expenses related to doing a search: travel, equipment, hiring of local PIs, or bringing in experts.
4. If I can cover any search expenses by another other method (media, work in the same location, etc.), then I will do so. I always endeavor to always keep costs low when I do pro bono work so that the funds will stretch further: inexpensive hotels, staying with local people, cheap meals, etc.). If I choose to spend above the cheapest rate I can achieve, I pay out-of-pocket.
5. The Pat Brown Maddie Search Fund will be transparent with all monies earned on the book tracked, all monies put into the account tracked, and all monies spent tracked. A full account will be made to the public of everything associated with my fund and my searches.
6. The Pat Brown Maddie Search Fund has no connection with the McCanns' search fund and the McCanns have not given my fund any endorsement. However, it would seem to me if I search in previously untargeted places and either locate Madeleine or eliminate those possibilities, then the search is nothing but beneficial to the McCanns and is following in the spirit of "Leaving No Stone Unturned."
7. There are four theories as to what happened to Madeleine which influence how one searches for the child; whether one thinks she is dead or alive.
One:, the child died accidentally in the apartment in Praia da Luz and there was a cover-up; then we are looking for a dead child in Praia da Luz, Portugal, Huelva, Spain, or England.
Two: a local pedophile abducted Madeleine; then we are looking for a dead child in Praia da Luz, Portugal or nearby.
Three: A woman wanted a little girl and got a man to kidnap Madeleine. Then we are looking for a live child somewhere in the world.
Four: A pedophile sex ring kidnapped Madeleine and she is being raped and abused on a continuing basis. Then we are looking for a live child somewhere in the world.
Now, as one only has limited funds (even the McCanns, although they have been quite hefty), it behooves one to put the strongest efforts into the most likely scenario. If the McCanns were not involved in any way (other than neglect) in the disappearance of their daughter, they ought to be using kindhearted people's donations in the most proper way; looking for a pedophile who abducted, raped and murdered their little girl, get him arrested and convicted so that Madeleine gets justice, and prevent another little girl from the same horrible fate. They should be putting a good portion of their search and investigative efforts into locating a local child sex predator.
Why? Because the methodology and descriptions of how Madeleine was supposedly kidnapped and by whom match a person from the area without even a vehicle to take her away in. There is zero evidence of any fancy plot nor even a person smart enough to park a vehicle in the car park right outside the window of Madeleine's bedroom in with which to make a quick getaway. Instead, we have the purported actions and descriptions of some creepy, not-so-bright fellow walking down the street with a child in his arms in full view of everyone. The chances of Madeleine being taken by a desperate wanna-be-Mom or a sex ring are minimal.
Should the McCanns still consider these rare possibilities and still look for a living Madeleine? Well, I can't blame the McCanns (if innocent) for wanting to believe their daughter is alive, so I can understand and accept that they want to put some efforts into that miracle possibility. However, they should be honest enough and good enough stewards of donated monies I(if innocent) to admit the likelihood of Madeleine being dead is very, very high and the likelihood of her being buried somewhere in Praia da Luz or environs is also very, very high. Their efforts should be concentrated there, with some monies set aside for the miracle.
So, I will be focusing on the two top theories; that Madeleine died in an accident and her body was hidden somewhere, or a local pedophile took her and her body is buried locally. IF it turns out that I get ANY information that proves Madeleine was abducted or if any evidence turns up that points to her murder by a stranger, this information will go straight to the police and the McCanns. If Maddie was abducted and murdered by a child predator, I want justice for Maddie and I want that creep put away and I want other children to be safe from him.
My theory as I laid out in my Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann is just that; a theory. If evidence is unsurfaced that changes my view of what happened to Madeleine, I have no problem disclosing this and adjusting my theory. Theories change based on available evidence; hence, they are called theories, not facts. Theories often change over time, even those postulated by law enforcement and the McCanns. Even Kate admits in her book, Madeleine, her theories of what happened that night have undergone change as she has spent more time analyzing the evidence or after receiving new information.
Why the McCanns had Carter-Ruck threaten Amazon with legal action to get a theory removed from public view is curious as it is only a theory, an opinion, one person's take on probabilities based on what is known at this point in time. Perhaps we will find out why they went to these lengths when the McCanns get on the witness stand in a court of law (when my lawsuit for libel and tortious interference with business makes it to court; I have retained prominent attorney Anne Bremner of Stanford Frey Cooper). Perhaps, then, they will explain why one person's opinion is so concerning they need to go to extremes to get have it silenced.
Madeleine McCann is the most recognized missing child in the world, with the most media attention of any missing child in the world. Unless I am mistaken, more money has been donated to finding Madeleine McCann than any child in the world. My Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann should hardly affect such a large and successful (moneywise) campaign; so the one wonders if the real issue McCanns have with my profile is that my theory is that it might actually be correct.
I believe in Freedom of Speech. I don't object to the theories of others on cases even if they different than mine. I don't even object to someone analyzing my theory and writing their opinion of it. I would never try to shut down their viewpoint (even when things are taken out of context and misrepresented in some way); I merely suggest that interested people go to the source and compare the two viewpoints and think for themselves about what theories and concepts are more supportable by evidence and logic.
The McCanns could simply have ignored this profiler's opinion on Madeleine's disappearance or made a simple statement that they do not think my analysis is very good. If the book was truly libelous as they claimed through their solicitors, Carter-Ruck, they should have informed me of this or sued me directly. Instead, they went behind the scenes and had the book pulled from the market. Inquiring minds wonder why.
I will be in Portugal in February to support Detective Amaral's fight against the McCanns in court, to begin search analysis, and to hear just what the Gerry and Kate McCann have to say.
May the truth come out one day and justice for Madeleine McCann prevail.
The Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann is available online through Barnes & Noble and Smashwords.
by Pat Brown
I have been getting a lot of questions about my search fund to be established with monies from the sale of my book, Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Some of the stuff certain folks are saying is seriously ridiculous, so I thought it best I make a clear statement with simple points they can understand.
1. I am not giving or receiving any monies from the McCanns' search fund.
2. At present, 50% of monies received from the sale of the Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann will go to the Pat Brown Maddie Search Fund. The other 50% earned from the book is income, not donations. I am selling a product and do not have to donate all earnings (or any) to charitable causes. I have chosen to donate 50% of the book's earnings to my search fund.
3. The Pat Brown Maddie Search Fund monies will be not be spent on a personal salary (any time spent will be pro bono). Monies will be used for expenses related to doing a search: travel, equipment, hiring of local PIs, or bringing in experts.
4. If I can cover any search expenses by another other method (media, work in the same location, etc.), then I will do so. I always endeavor to always keep costs low when I do pro bono work so that the funds will stretch further: inexpensive hotels, staying with local people, cheap meals, etc.). If I choose to spend above the cheapest rate I can achieve, I pay out-of-pocket.
5. The Pat Brown Maddie Search Fund will be transparent with all monies earned on the book tracked, all monies put into the account tracked, and all monies spent tracked. A full account will be made to the public of everything associated with my fund and my searches.
6. The Pat Brown Maddie Search Fund has no connection with the McCanns' search fund and the McCanns have not given my fund any endorsement. However, it would seem to me if I search in previously untargeted places and either locate Madeleine or eliminate those possibilities, then the search is nothing but beneficial to the McCanns and is following in the spirit of "Leaving No Stone Unturned."
7. There are four theories as to what happened to Madeleine which influence how one searches for the child; whether one thinks she is dead or alive.
One:, the child died accidentally in the apartment in Praia da Luz and there was a cover-up; then we are looking for a dead child in Praia da Luz, Portugal, Huelva, Spain, or England.
Two: a local pedophile abducted Madeleine; then we are looking for a dead child in Praia da Luz, Portugal or nearby.
Three: A woman wanted a little girl and got a man to kidnap Madeleine. Then we are looking for a live child somewhere in the world.
Four: A pedophile sex ring kidnapped Madeleine and she is being raped and abused on a continuing basis. Then we are looking for a live child somewhere in the world.
Now, as one only has limited funds (even the McCanns, although they have been quite hefty), it behooves one to put the strongest efforts into the most likely scenario. If the McCanns were not involved in any way (other than neglect) in the disappearance of their daughter, they ought to be using kindhearted people's donations in the most proper way; looking for a pedophile who abducted, raped and murdered their little girl, get him arrested and convicted so that Madeleine gets justice, and prevent another little girl from the same horrible fate. They should be putting a good portion of their search and investigative efforts into locating a local child sex predator.
Why? Because the methodology and descriptions of how Madeleine was supposedly kidnapped and by whom match a person from the area without even a vehicle to take her away in. There is zero evidence of any fancy plot nor even a person smart enough to park a vehicle in the car park right outside the window of Madeleine's bedroom in with which to make a quick getaway. Instead, we have the purported actions and descriptions of some creepy, not-so-bright fellow walking down the street with a child in his arms in full view of everyone. The chances of Madeleine being taken by a desperate wanna-be-Mom or a sex ring are minimal.
Should the McCanns still consider these rare possibilities and still look for a living Madeleine? Well, I can't blame the McCanns (if innocent) for wanting to believe their daughter is alive, so I can understand and accept that they want to put some efforts into that miracle possibility. However, they should be honest enough and good enough stewards of donated monies I(if innocent) to admit the likelihood of Madeleine being dead is very, very high and the likelihood of her being buried somewhere in Praia da Luz or environs is also very, very high. Their efforts should be concentrated there, with some monies set aside for the miracle.
So, I will be focusing on the two top theories; that Madeleine died in an accident and her body was hidden somewhere, or a local pedophile took her and her body is buried locally. IF it turns out that I get ANY information that proves Madeleine was abducted or if any evidence turns up that points to her murder by a stranger, this information will go straight to the police and the McCanns. If Maddie was abducted and murdered by a child predator, I want justice for Maddie and I want that creep put away and I want other children to be safe from him.
My theory as I laid out in my Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann is just that; a theory. If evidence is unsurfaced that changes my view of what happened to Madeleine, I have no problem disclosing this and adjusting my theory. Theories change based on available evidence; hence, they are called theories, not facts. Theories often change over time, even those postulated by law enforcement and the McCanns. Even Kate admits in her book, Madeleine, her theories of what happened that night have undergone change as she has spent more time analyzing the evidence or after receiving new information.
Why the McCanns had Carter-Ruck threaten Amazon with legal action to get a theory removed from public view is curious as it is only a theory, an opinion, one person's take on probabilities based on what is known at this point in time. Perhaps we will find out why they went to these lengths when the McCanns get on the witness stand in a court of law (when my lawsuit for libel and tortious interference with business makes it to court; I have retained prominent attorney Anne Bremner of Stanford Frey Cooper). Perhaps, then, they will explain why one person's opinion is so concerning they need to go to extremes to get have it silenced.
Madeleine McCann is the most recognized missing child in the world, with the most media attention of any missing child in the world. Unless I am mistaken, more money has been donated to finding Madeleine McCann than any child in the world. My Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann should hardly affect such a large and successful (moneywise) campaign; so the one wonders if the real issue McCanns have with my profile is that my theory is that it might actually be correct.
I believe in Freedom of Speech. I don't object to the theories of others on cases even if they different than mine. I don't even object to someone analyzing my theory and writing their opinion of it. I would never try to shut down their viewpoint (even when things are taken out of context and misrepresented in some way); I merely suggest that interested people go to the source and compare the two viewpoints and think for themselves about what theories and concepts are more supportable by evidence and logic.
The McCanns could simply have ignored this profiler's opinion on Madeleine's disappearance or made a simple statement that they do not think my analysis is very good. If the book was truly libelous as they claimed through their solicitors, Carter-Ruck, they should have informed me of this or sued me directly. Instead, they went behind the scenes and had the book pulled from the market. Inquiring minds wonder why.
I will be in Portugal in February to support Detective Amaral's fight against the McCanns in court, to begin search analysis, and to hear just what the Gerry and Kate McCann have to say.
May the truth come out one day and justice for Madeleine McCann prevail.
The Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann is available online through Barnes & Noble and Smashwords.
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Oh it just gets my goat when all the fluckers on tm sticks their oar in and slags,gives out ,telling all and sundry that they cant defed themselves.Only the mcs can do that.HOW FLUCKIN STUPID ARE TM..I hope pat brown takes the ugly shits to the cleaners.
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Have the mccanns stepped on the wrong toes here?
Pat Browns appetite for the truth has grown even more since she was rucked & i wish her well in her trip to Portugal
Pat Browns appetite for the truth has grown even more since she was rucked & i wish her well in her trip to Portugal
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When you think about it..Madeleine McCann has had around 6 million quid spent on her one way or another ( adding in the 3.5 million for the 'review'...)
That is about as much as live aid made. How many living children could this money have saved?
It's revolting, actually. If the McCanns don't eventually get brought to justice then more and more little Caylees etc will go the same way. They've started something really ugly. Time to stop them now.
That is about as much as live aid made. How many living children could this money have saved?
It's revolting, actually. If the McCanns don't eventually get brought to justice then more and more little Caylees etc will go the same way. They've started something really ugly. Time to stop them now.
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It scares me the amount off people that are copying them and it worries me that children are not getting the justice they deserve .
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Alternative Search
An alternative search - what an absolutely brillient stroke of genius by Pat Brown The McC's must really be bricking it now. With the PJ investigation shelved, the Met limited toa review, the only thing thats left is the McC's PI's. But with Pat Brown's search she can pick up where the PJ left off, pull up 'information' that would not otherwise have come to light and start to flush out more of the truth. No doubt Amaral will be able to give her a few leads but also some of the sterling work done on the internet, by the bloggers and the nutters, will have opened up new questions - new stones to be turned. Be prepared to be inundated with lots of false leads from TM.
But also be warned Pat, if the establishment really is shoreing up the McC's version of events then remember what is happening to Julian Assange, dont forget Sean Hoare
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dbd_1311019945
or David Kelly for that matter and of course the nasty things that have happened to dear Amaral.
Good luck in all you are doing Pat, I wish I could come out there and join you in the search.
But also be warned Pat, if the establishment really is shoreing up the McC's version of events then remember what is happening to Julian Assange, dont forget Sean Hoare
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dbd_1311019945
or David Kelly for that matter and of course the nasty things that have happened to dear Amaral.
Good luck in all you are doing Pat, I wish I could come out there and join you in the search.
Last edited by NoStone on Mon 7 Nov - 8:24; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : I forgot (how could I) to mention Amaral as a victim)
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Morning NoStone,
It is good News that Pat Brown intends to "search" but her Fund will have to raise Millions to start at the beginning. Amaral will obviously be helpful and
no doubt she will go through mccannfiles starting from scratch copying relevant information. do you think she will find anything that the PJ overlooked?
Presumably she will not be allowed access to their files , nor the LP Files , so it"s a big ask for her to find new clues.
It is good News that Pat Brown intends to "search" but her Fund will have to raise Millions to start at the beginning. Amaral will obviously be helpful and
no doubt she will go through mccannfiles starting from scratch copying relevant information. do you think she will find anything that the PJ overlooked?
Presumably she will not be allowed access to their files , nor the LP Files , so it"s a big ask for her to find new clues.
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comments:
Re: STATEMENT FROM 'PROFILER' PAT BROWN
Post Lamplighter Today at 9:27 am
From Myths:
12 comments:
Anonymous said...
good for you pat,i hope you succeed
in what your hoping to achieve.
Will you be sueing the mccanns in usa and is your attorney Anne Bremner ready to meet the fearfull
c.r,haha.Again good luck , i know you have a lot of followers who will be with you in spirit on this journey you are undertaking.
November 6, 2011 1:50 PM
Johanna said...
I think the Huelva option is a dead end. The dogs arrived on the 30th July. The parents went to Huelva on the 3rd August. The search of the car happened at the 6th August. A neighbor of them at the villa told police that the car was aired for weeks. And to leave the dogs searching for 3 days before going to Huelva would be far too risky. They knew the dogs were coming. When Mark Harrison started to set up the parameters for the dogs search around the middle of July, the trips to the so called Triangle between Sagres, Budens and Raposeira.
Check this article (scroll down for English)
http://unterdenteppichgekehrt.blogspot.com/search?q=triangle
November 6, 2011 2:24 PM
Pat Brown said...
Thanks, Anon. There is a lot at stake here in the arena of missing and murdered children. There has been a heartwarming rise in folks who care about crimes against children, but, there is also an increase of guilty people and criminal defense lawyers using the media as a tool to galvanize groups to protest their innocence, sway juries, and make huge sums of money through donations, television appearances, the sale of photos, books and movies. These people also make us skeptical of innocent parents whose children really WERE abducted and women who really WERE assaulted or kidnapped (as opposed to those seeking attention like Jennifer Wilbanks, the runaway bride or that lady in Canada who threw acid in her own face to become famous).
If free speech is shut down and those who questions high profile "victims" in the media can't speak up, then imposters will have free reign.
I don't know which category the McCanns fall into because there is not proof that they or anyone else is responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine. However, free speech allows us to analyze and discuss crime elements and behaviors and consider the possibilities. The McCanns have done so themselves, over and over, on television, on the Internet, and in Kate's book. They have theories as to who might have done something to Madeleine and how the PJ handled the case. If they have the right to free speech, so should other people.
November 6, 2011 2:36 PM
The Rooster said...
Hi Pat, thank you, thank you, thank you. You give hope to what previously looked like a grid-locked situation. The McCanns should welcome the arrival of a professional. You deserve recognition for your efforts. I'm 110% behind you.
Cheers
The Rooster
November 6, 2011 3:44 PM
Child Advocate said...
I wish you luck in your search for the truth. I find it odd that the McCanns have gone to such lengths to stop your book. If it were my child, I would challenge you to prove your theory is correct. After all, if innocent, perhaps during your search, you would find the real person/persons responsible. Instead, they choose to silence you. As I said, I find it odd. I admire your donating half the earnings to search for Madeline and other missing children. Keep up the good work. God Bless you.
November 6, 2011 4:10 PM
Child Advocate said...
I wish you luck in your search for the truth. I find it odd that the McCanns have gone to such lengths to stop your book. If it were my child, I would challenge you to prove your theory is correct. After all, if innocent, perhaps during your search, you would find the real person/persons responsible. Instead, they choose to silence you. As I said, I find it odd. I admire your donating half the earnings to search for Madeline and other missing children. Keep up the good work. God Bless you.
November 6, 2011 4:11 PM
Pat Brown said...
Johanna, you make some very good points. Huelva is just one possibility. Before I do any hands on searching, I have a lot of information to review and geography and geology to analyze. As I do more analysis, it may become clearer where efforts should go (and this can include a pedophile who has disposed of body).
I am looking forward to spending more time on this issue and seeing where it leads. Who knows? If there is startling new evidence that pops up that indicates Madeleine might be alive, I would happily pursue this (which has no bearing on Freedom of Speech and Tortious Interference with Business and the McCanns neglect of their children, obstructing the police investigation, and other concerning behaviors.)
Pat
November 6, 2011 6:42 PM
l said...
Hi Pat,
How can we help you?
November 6, 2011 8:19 PM
Châtelaine said...
Dear Ms. Brown, Pat:-) if I may. Madeleine is dead. I've never doubted the cadaver & blood dogs' [Eddie & Keela] alerts.
If you need any money over and above your royalty share, let me know.
November 6, 2011 8:20 PM
TJ said...
Hi Pat,
I'm so happy you have taken this on. The truth needs to come out - whatever it is. While I think this was was an accident that was covered up by the parents, I will be more than happy to see an investigation prove otherwise, as long as we find out what happened to Madeline, once and for all. Gerry McCann strikes me as a guy with a short fuse. I think he lost it with Maddie that day and she ended up dead. With Maddie gone, the parents decided it was much better to be the parents of an abducted child (sympathy factor), rather than face the shame (and loss of status) associated with a trial where Gerry is accused of manslaughter due to child abuse. Or it may be that they medicated Madeline and she did wake up alone, and was fatally injured while they were dining. Whatever happened, Kate and Gerry know more than what they are saying. The fact that they tried to have your book pulled from the market is telling. I think you hit a little to close to the mark and they can't allow that. We're all pulling for you to help solve this case. The McCanns should be grateful to have someone of your caliber and experience looking into this case.
November 6, 2011 9:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Bravo Ms. Brown!
Your commitment to transparency with your fund is very refreshing in light of "Madeleine's fund" being used by her parents to pay their mortgage, themselves and family members' salaries, a battery of lawyers including one with anti-extradition expertise, etc. etc. etc.
I bought your book and have amply recommended it to friends. I am not well off but would gladly contribute more to your fund - it is high time somebody started actually turning over stones rather than posturing, as the McCanns continue to do.
Mexx
November 7, 2011 12:19 AM
ModNrodder said...
Please remember, Madeleine Beth McCann. A missing child.
Not a political pinball and a tool for spite or to gain selfish publicity for those who seek martyrdom.
This is about finding a missing child, not contempt for that missing child's parents.
November 7, 2011 3:38 AM
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Re: STATEMENT FROM 'PROFILER' PAT BROWN
Post Lamplighter Today at 9:27 am
From Myths:
12 comments:
Anonymous said...
good for you pat,i hope you succeed
in what your hoping to achieve.
Will you be sueing the mccanns in usa and is your attorney Anne Bremner ready to meet the fearfull
c.r,haha.Again good luck , i know you have a lot of followers who will be with you in spirit on this journey you are undertaking.
November 6, 2011 1:50 PM
Johanna said...
I think the Huelva option is a dead end. The dogs arrived on the 30th July. The parents went to Huelva on the 3rd August. The search of the car happened at the 6th August. A neighbor of them at the villa told police that the car was aired for weeks. And to leave the dogs searching for 3 days before going to Huelva would be far too risky. They knew the dogs were coming. When Mark Harrison started to set up the parameters for the dogs search around the middle of July, the trips to the so called Triangle between Sagres, Budens and Raposeira.
Check this article (scroll down for English)
http://unterdenteppichgekehrt.blogspot.com/search?q=triangle
November 6, 2011 2:24 PM
Pat Brown said...
Thanks, Anon. There is a lot at stake here in the arena of missing and murdered children. There has been a heartwarming rise in folks who care about crimes against children, but, there is also an increase of guilty people and criminal defense lawyers using the media as a tool to galvanize groups to protest their innocence, sway juries, and make huge sums of money through donations, television appearances, the sale of photos, books and movies. These people also make us skeptical of innocent parents whose children really WERE abducted and women who really WERE assaulted or kidnapped (as opposed to those seeking attention like Jennifer Wilbanks, the runaway bride or that lady in Canada who threw acid in her own face to become famous).
If free speech is shut down and those who questions high profile "victims" in the media can't speak up, then imposters will have free reign.
I don't know which category the McCanns fall into because there is not proof that they or anyone else is responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine. However, free speech allows us to analyze and discuss crime elements and behaviors and consider the possibilities. The McCanns have done so themselves, over and over, on television, on the Internet, and in Kate's book. They have theories as to who might have done something to Madeleine and how the PJ handled the case. If they have the right to free speech, so should other people.
November 6, 2011 2:36 PM
The Rooster said...
Hi Pat, thank you, thank you, thank you. You give hope to what previously looked like a grid-locked situation. The McCanns should welcome the arrival of a professional. You deserve recognition for your efforts. I'm 110% behind you.
Cheers
The Rooster
November 6, 2011 3:44 PM
Child Advocate said...
I wish you luck in your search for the truth. I find it odd that the McCanns have gone to such lengths to stop your book. If it were my child, I would challenge you to prove your theory is correct. After all, if innocent, perhaps during your search, you would find the real person/persons responsible. Instead, they choose to silence you. As I said, I find it odd. I admire your donating half the earnings to search for Madeline and other missing children. Keep up the good work. God Bless you.
November 6, 2011 4:10 PM
Child Advocate said...
I wish you luck in your search for the truth. I find it odd that the McCanns have gone to such lengths to stop your book. If it were my child, I would challenge you to prove your theory is correct. After all, if innocent, perhaps during your search, you would find the real person/persons responsible. Instead, they choose to silence you. As I said, I find it odd. I admire your donating half the earnings to search for Madeline and other missing children. Keep up the good work. God Bless you.
November 6, 2011 4:11 PM
Pat Brown said...
Johanna, you make some very good points. Huelva is just one possibility. Before I do any hands on searching, I have a lot of information to review and geography and geology to analyze. As I do more analysis, it may become clearer where efforts should go (and this can include a pedophile who has disposed of body).
I am looking forward to spending more time on this issue and seeing where it leads. Who knows? If there is startling new evidence that pops up that indicates Madeleine might be alive, I would happily pursue this (which has no bearing on Freedom of Speech and Tortious Interference with Business and the McCanns neglect of their children, obstructing the police investigation, and other concerning behaviors.)
Pat
November 6, 2011 6:42 PM
l said...
Hi Pat,
How can we help you?
November 6, 2011 8:19 PM
Châtelaine said...
Dear Ms. Brown, Pat:-) if I may. Madeleine is dead. I've never doubted the cadaver & blood dogs' [Eddie & Keela] alerts.
If you need any money over and above your royalty share, let me know.
November 6, 2011 8:20 PM
TJ said...
Hi Pat,
I'm so happy you have taken this on. The truth needs to come out - whatever it is. While I think this was was an accident that was covered up by the parents, I will be more than happy to see an investigation prove otherwise, as long as we find out what happened to Madeline, once and for all. Gerry McCann strikes me as a guy with a short fuse. I think he lost it with Maddie that day and she ended up dead. With Maddie gone, the parents decided it was much better to be the parents of an abducted child (sympathy factor), rather than face the shame (and loss of status) associated with a trial where Gerry is accused of manslaughter due to child abuse. Or it may be that they medicated Madeline and she did wake up alone, and was fatally injured while they were dining. Whatever happened, Kate and Gerry know more than what they are saying. The fact that they tried to have your book pulled from the market is telling. I think you hit a little to close to the mark and they can't allow that. We're all pulling for you to help solve this case. The McCanns should be grateful to have someone of your caliber and experience looking into this case.
November 6, 2011 9:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Bravo Ms. Brown!
Your commitment to transparency with your fund is very refreshing in light of "Madeleine's fund" being used by her parents to pay their mortgage, themselves and family members' salaries, a battery of lawyers including one with anti-extradition expertise, etc. etc. etc.
I bought your book and have amply recommended it to friends. I am not well off but would gladly contribute more to your fund - it is high time somebody started actually turning over stones rather than posturing, as the McCanns continue to do.
Mexx
November 7, 2011 12:19 AM
ModNrodder said...
Please remember, Madeleine Beth McCann. A missing child.
Not a political pinball and a tool for spite or to gain selfish publicity for those who seek martyrdom.
This is about finding a missing child, not contempt for that missing child's parents.
November 7, 2011 3:38 AM
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Panda wrote:Morning NoStone,
It is good News that Pat Brown intends to "search" but her Fund will have to raise Millions to start at the beginning. Amaral will obviously be helpful and
no doubt she will go through mccannfiles starting from scratch copying relevant information. do you think she will find anything that the PJ overlooked?
Presumably she will not be allowed access to their files , nor the LP Files , so it"s a big ask for her to find new clues.
Hi Panda,
I dont think Pat will need to start at the beginning as she is not conducting and investigation - the important word is SEARCH - so she is going to search for Madeleine.I dont think she will pick up on anything the PJ overlooked but she might pick up on some new leads - perhaps people that did not want to come forward to the PJ before - not everyone likes talking to the police you know Maybe the priest will take her quietly by the hand and without saying a word - lead her to the place!??? LikeI posted before - a stunning fortune awaits anyone who lifts the lid on the truth of this case, I hope it is Pat & Amaral working together.
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Pesonally, I would not rule out Huelva as a final resting place! Who is to say that the body was not moved in the week or so before the arrival of the dogs - hidden away but still to be finally 'placed'. That would explain the earlier smells in the car and the 'Huelva detour'.
If its not Huelva then maybe the triangle is the place to look, less remote though so if this is the case I would go with my theory that the body has been 'lodged' either in a coffin or a grave of a legitimate burial. Its possible given that there are lots of 'small chapels' in the triangle. It certainly would cut down the search if we knew what burials took place in that area at the time in question!!! There cannot be that many can there??
If its not Huelva then maybe the triangle is the place to look, less remote though so if this is the case I would go with my theory that the body has been 'lodged' either in a coffin or a grave of a legitimate burial. Its possible given that there are lots of 'small chapels' in the triangle. It certainly would cut down the search if we knew what burials took place in that area at the time in question!!! There cannot be that many can there??
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NoStone wrote:Pesonally, I would not rule out Huelva as a final resting place! Who is to say that the body was not moved in the week or so before the arrival of the dogs - hidden away but still to be finally 'placed'. That would explain the earlier smells in the car and the 'Huelva detour'.
If its not Huelva then maybe the triangle is the place to look, less remote though so if this is the case I would go with my theory that the body has been 'lodged' either in a coffin or a grave of a legitimate burial. Its possible given that there are lots of 'small chapels' in the triangle. It certainly would cut down the search if we knew what burials took place in that area at the time in question!!! There cannot be that many can there??
Hi NOStone, there was speculation that Madeleine was buried in the crypt a the Church which the McCanns were given to the church in PDL. A Father
Pacecho kindly gave them the key to go and pray whenever they wished . However, he was later to regret it but never told us why. Could it be a
confession that he could not repeat.?
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How the Hell do people find this stuff???? Not looking good for Pat Brown is it.
I would have thought her books would have earned her a comfortable lliving .
Thanks NoStone
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How the Hell do people find this stuff???? Not looking good for Pat Brown is it.
I would have thought her books would have earned her a comfortable lliving .
Thanks NoStone
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They have been tweeting this all last night. Just remind them who employes Pinochets ex lawyer
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Panda wrote:
Hi NOStone, there was speculation that Madeleine was buried in the crypt a the Church which the McCanns were given to the church in PDL. A Father
Pacecho kindly gave them the key to go and pray whenever they wished . However, he was later to regret it but never told us why. Could it be a
confession that he could not repeat.?
Hi everybody!
I agree that this comment from Father Pacecho is quite disturbing.. I think he said that «the McCanns destroyed my life», or something like that.. So he knows something, for sure..
So now, considering the place where is Madeleine, everybody talks about the Triangle, Huleva, cliffs, Rothley, etc.. But nobody talks about the sea. For me, it is the most possible place because water destroys everything.. Moreover, PDL is surrounded by the sea, it's obvious that it could be a good spot to hide a body for many years..
I apologize for my mistakes!
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maive wrote:Panda wrote:
Hi NOStone, there was speculation that Madeleine was buried in the crypt a the Church which the McCanns were given to the church in PDL. A Father
Pacecho kindly gave them the key to go and pray whenever they wished . However, he was later to regret it but never told us why. Could it be a
confession that he could not repeat.?
Hi everybody!
I agree that this comment from Father Pacecho is quite disturbing.. I think he said that «the McCanns destroyed my life», or something like that.. So he knows something, for sure..
So now, considering the place where is Madeleine, everybody talks about the Triangle, Huleva, cliffs, Rothley, etc.. But nobody talks about the sea. For me, it is the most possible place because water destroys everything.. Moreover, PDL is surrounded by the sea, it's obvious that it could be a good spot to hide a body for many years..
I apologize for my mistakes!
Welcome maive ,
As it happens, a couple of years ago I travelled on a Coach to Gatwick got chatting to the Lady sitting next to me and it turned out she lived in Faro
and a Friend of hers was also a friend of Mrs. Fenn.......small world eh? The Portugese believe Madeleine was thrown into the Sea from nearby cliffs.
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I've had the feeling for some time that Madeleine's fate will be discovered when a dog runs off a landfill site with a bone that turns out to be human. People who have committed crimes often tell the truth as far as they are able to. The McCanns are doctors who stated that they carried rotting meat in the hire car. Large chunks distributed around tips over a wide area? Well, I hope no one is horrified by the suggestion, but it has happened plenty of times before.
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AnnaEsse wrote:I've had the feeling for some time that Madeleine's fate will be discovered when a dog runs off a landfill site with a bone that turns out to be human. People who have committed crimes often tell the truth as far as they are able to. The McCanns are doctors who stated that they carried rotting meat in the hire car. Large chunks distributed around tips over a wide area? Well, I hope no one is horrified by the suggestion, but it has happened plenty of times before.
HI AnnaEsse,
Anything is possble , from the time when Gerry was asked if he knew Murat and his reply was "no comment", that for me was the point at which I beleived
the McCanns were involved in Madeleine"s disappearance.
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How the Hell do people find this stuff???? Not looking good for Pat Brown is it.
I would have thought her books would have earned her a comfortable lliving .
Thanks NoStone
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This is a sort of reaction that I would expect TM to be involved with. It can only draw out the worst from them and I would hope that Pat Brown is aware of the pre-planning aspect of TM and their lawyers. They may have something up their sleeve to forestall her Search, if they can find something to hinder it, they will.
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Panda wrote:maive wrote:Panda wrote:
Hi NOStone, there was speculation that Madeleine was buried in the crypt a the Church which the McCanns were given to the church in PDL. A Father
Pacecho kindly gave them the key to go and pray whenever they wished . However, he was later to regret it but never told us why. Could it be a
confession that he could not repeat.?
Hi everybody!
I agree that this comment from Father Pacecho is quite disturbing.. I think he said that «the McCanns destroyed my life», or something like that.. So he knows something, for sure..
So now, considering the place where is Madeleine, everybody talks about the Triangle, Huleva, cliffs, Rothley, etc.. But nobody talks about the sea. For me, it is the most possible place because water destroys everything.. Moreover, PDL is surrounded by the sea, it's obvious that it could be a good spot to hide a body for many years..
I apologize for my mistakes!
Welcome maive ,
As it happens, a couple of years ago I travelled on a Coach to Gatwick got chatting to the Lady sitting next to me and it turned out she lived in Faro
and a Friend of hers was also a friend of Mrs. Fenn.......small world eh? The Portugese believe Madeleine was thrown into the Sea from nearby cliffs.
Thank you Panda for your welcome and this information.
And yes it's a small world, such a coincidence!!!!!!!!!!!
When I was reading your post, I have had an horrible vision of a little child thrown off the cliffs into the ocean. It's heartbreaking..
Poor Madeleine, RIP.
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Hi everybody!
I agree that this comment from Father Pacecho is quite disturbing.. I think he said that «the McCanns ,
As it happens, a couple of years ago I travelled on a Coach to Gatwick got chatting to the Lady sitting next to me and it turned out she lived in Faro
and a Friend of hers was also a friend of Mrs. Fenn.......small world eh? The Portugese believe Madeleine was thrown into the Sea from nearby cliffs.
Do they? I live here, and there are numerous people who have gone with the theory that she was abducted, never heard anyone say she was chucked off a cliff.
I agree that this comment from Father Pacecho is quite disturbing.. I think he said that «the McCanns ,
As it happens, a couple of years ago I travelled on a Coach to Gatwick got chatting to the Lady sitting next to me and it turned out she lived in Faro
and a Friend of hers was also a friend of Mrs. Fenn.......small world eh? The Portugese believe Madeleine was thrown into the Sea from nearby cliffs.
Do they? I live here, and there are numerous people who have gone with the theory that she was abducted, never heard anyone say she was chucked off a cliff.
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I am sure that Pat's lawyers are monitoring all this and ready to send out their version or CR letters!!!
Knock Knock!
I am sure that Pat's lawyers are monitoring all this and ready to send out their version or CR letters!!!
Knock Knock!
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NoStone wrote:http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com/topic1624.html
I am sure that Pat's lawyers are monitoring all this and ready to send out their version or CR letters!!!
Knock Knock!
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