"Are Cadaver Dogs saying You're Lying" Pat Brown 13/12/2011
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"Are Cadaver Dogs saying You're Lying" Pat Brown 13/12/2011
New article of Pat Brown in the blog "women in crime"
( photos with the link)
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2011/12/are-cadaver-dogs-saying-youre-lying.html
Tuesday, December 13, 2011
Are Cadaver Dogs saying You're Lying?
by Pat Brown
Funny thing about those cadaver dogs; they haven't got a bone to pick with the person being investigated, no interest in closing a case or in railroading anyone. They just do what they have been trained to do. They may not be perfect in that they miss hitting on a spot, but they don't hit on spots for no reason. They are trained to locate where dead bodies of humans have been, not live human beings, not dirty diapers, not on a package of meat, nor a hundred other unseen types of biological items. There is only one thing that trips them up; the body of a decomposing pig (because of the similarity it has to a human body). Unless you can prove you had a dead hog lying about in you living room or in your car, the hit a cadaver dog makes is going to be on human remains. Actually, I am the one of very few people who could actually have a cadaver dog hit in my house for that very reason since my beloved potbelly pig, Gwendolyn (see the video) did indeed expire on my living room floor; however, most people can't make that claim.
Gerry and Kate McCann, parents of the missing child, Madeleine McCann, dismiss the fact that Eddie, the cadaver dog, hit in their vacation apartment and in their rental car in 2007 (but not in any of their friends' vacation apartments nor early suspect Robert Murat's house or property) as meaningless because cadaver dogs are "rubbish." In that same year, a cadaver dog also alerted to the smell of death in Adrian Prout's UK home after his wife, Kate, vanished. Although he claimed he was innocent and her body had not been found, Prout was convicted. After having a fan club that protested steadily that Prout was railroaded, Prout confessed and indicated the area where the body was buried; then more cadaver dogs helped police in the search and Kate's body was found on his farm.
Next we have cadaver dogs hitting in the case of missing baby, Lisa Irwin, who supposedly was abducted in the middle of the night while her intoxicated mother slept. They hit on one spot in the Kansas City home of the parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, right on the floor next to the bed in the master bedroom. Deborah, the mother, claims she changed diapers there, but if the dogs were hitting on dirty diapers in the home, I would gather they would hit in more places than that one spot.
Now, cadaver dogs have hit again in a missing child case. Two-year-old Bianca Jones went missing in Detroit on December 2. Her father, D'Andre Lane, who was babysitting her at time, claimed on the day he was to return the child to her mother's home, he was carjacked at 10 in the morning by two men with guns. Now, his story stinks worse than a decomposing body. First of all, the "carjackers" choose him (a streetwise felon) driving a 1994 Mercury Marquis (not exactly a hot car from the most carjacked automobiles list). Daddy, seeing two thugs are about to drive off with his little girl puts up no resistance. Instead he calls 911 and the police go searching for the car.
Oddly, it is found just six blocks away (and one block from Binika Jones' house, the mother of Bianca), with no child in it. So, let me get this straight. These two carjackers went to the trouble of ousting D'Andre Lane from a car with a toddler in the car seat, don't take the car somewhere and strip it, don't sell it, don't use it for committing robberies (a common use of a carjacked vehicle) and don't take it for a joyride. They drive just six blocks and dump it. Maybe they didn't realize there was a child in it and, therefore abandoned the car? Maybe, but then why would they take the child? The story blows. And so did Dre's attempt to pass the polygraph. Not only that, but two witnesses saw the action: one saw D'Andre driving alone down the street and the other, standing by a window overlooking the alley, saw Lane pull the vehicle into it and walk away. No baby seen with him or in the car.
D'Andre Lane is swearing up and down he didn't have anything to do with his daughter going missing, but everything about his story has been pretty much been annihilated by the circumstances and witnesses. The cadaver dogs hitting in his apartment and in his car pretty much puts a bow on his story as being a crock.
D'Andre Lane is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, but he isn't a suspect for nothing. In the words of Gerry McCann, "Ask the dogs."
(left: cadaver dog hits behind sofa in the McCann's Praia da Luz, Portugal vacation rental apartment. From police files.)
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My ebook, Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann, removed from Amazon following threat of legal action by Carter-Ruck on behalf of Gerry and Kate McCann, can still be found online at Barnes and Noble and Smashwords. Keep posted for news of my upcoming legal action with attorney Anne Bremner against the McCanns for tortuous interference with business and libel.
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Posted by Pat Brown at 11:44 AM
Labels: Bianca Jones, cadaver dogs, D'Andre Lane, Madeleine McCann, Pat Brown's posts
2 comments:
JillyCL said...
Thanks Pat. My heart always sinks when I hear that cadaver dogs have alerted in a missing child case.
I think in the McCann case it's relevant that Eddie the cadaver dog is an EVRD - an Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog - and he's had training with the FBI in the USA on human cadavers at the Body Farm.
Martin Grime, Eddie's handler states in his police evidence (PJ Files) that Eddie alerts to human cadaver and he has never alerted to 'Road Kill' (or bacon sandwiches, as the McCann sycophants constantly and erroneously insist).
Martin Grime's profile on Eddie & Keela from the police files:-
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post425.html#p425
Thank you for all the work you're doing to discover the truth about what happened to Maddie in Portugal, in Spring 2007.
December 14, 2011 1:38 AM
Anonymous said...
You have truly put a perspective on the cases where Cadaver dogs have been used both in the UK and USA, by pulling this cases together it really brings home to you the value of these dogs.
One wonders, although do we need to what the reaction of Mr and Mrs McCann would have been had any hint whatsoever of cadaver odour been found in or around Robert Murat’s home.
I don’t know much about the way of libel\litigation laws but the move on Amazon by Carter Ruck, was extraordinary considering it was the professional opinion synopsis of a person like yourself. Would you settle out of court if that was offered? But as you can imagine there has been no reference to your pending litigation or that of Mr Amaral.
The media, particularly the press in the UK will be undergoing major revisions under the Leveson inquiry, but perhaps it needs also to concentrate of those aspects of PEOPLE or manipulate the media\generally, as was as the media\press & it’s practices. That manipulation of planned\scheduled interviews and very slanted reporting that is far from balanced. As you have now experienced yourself.
puddleduck
December 14, 2011 2:47 AM
( photos with the link)
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2011/12/are-cadaver-dogs-saying-youre-lying.html
Tuesday, December 13, 2011
Are Cadaver Dogs saying You're Lying?
by Pat Brown
Funny thing about those cadaver dogs; they haven't got a bone to pick with the person being investigated, no interest in closing a case or in railroading anyone. They just do what they have been trained to do. They may not be perfect in that they miss hitting on a spot, but they don't hit on spots for no reason. They are trained to locate where dead bodies of humans have been, not live human beings, not dirty diapers, not on a package of meat, nor a hundred other unseen types of biological items. There is only one thing that trips them up; the body of a decomposing pig (because of the similarity it has to a human body). Unless you can prove you had a dead hog lying about in you living room or in your car, the hit a cadaver dog makes is going to be on human remains. Actually, I am the one of very few people who could actually have a cadaver dog hit in my house for that very reason since my beloved potbelly pig, Gwendolyn (see the video) did indeed expire on my living room floor; however, most people can't make that claim.
Gerry and Kate McCann, parents of the missing child, Madeleine McCann, dismiss the fact that Eddie, the cadaver dog, hit in their vacation apartment and in their rental car in 2007 (but not in any of their friends' vacation apartments nor early suspect Robert Murat's house or property) as meaningless because cadaver dogs are "rubbish." In that same year, a cadaver dog also alerted to the smell of death in Adrian Prout's UK home after his wife, Kate, vanished. Although he claimed he was innocent and her body had not been found, Prout was convicted. After having a fan club that protested steadily that Prout was railroaded, Prout confessed and indicated the area where the body was buried; then more cadaver dogs helped police in the search and Kate's body was found on his farm.
Next we have cadaver dogs hitting in the case of missing baby, Lisa Irwin, who supposedly was abducted in the middle of the night while her intoxicated mother slept. They hit on one spot in the Kansas City home of the parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, right on the floor next to the bed in the master bedroom. Deborah, the mother, claims she changed diapers there, but if the dogs were hitting on dirty diapers in the home, I would gather they would hit in more places than that one spot.
Now, cadaver dogs have hit again in a missing child case. Two-year-old Bianca Jones went missing in Detroit on December 2. Her father, D'Andre Lane, who was babysitting her at time, claimed on the day he was to return the child to her mother's home, he was carjacked at 10 in the morning by two men with guns. Now, his story stinks worse than a decomposing body. First of all, the "carjackers" choose him (a streetwise felon) driving a 1994 Mercury Marquis (not exactly a hot car from the most carjacked automobiles list). Daddy, seeing two thugs are about to drive off with his little girl puts up no resistance. Instead he calls 911 and the police go searching for the car.
Oddly, it is found just six blocks away (and one block from Binika Jones' house, the mother of Bianca), with no child in it. So, let me get this straight. These two carjackers went to the trouble of ousting D'Andre Lane from a car with a toddler in the car seat, don't take the car somewhere and strip it, don't sell it, don't use it for committing robberies (a common use of a carjacked vehicle) and don't take it for a joyride. They drive just six blocks and dump it. Maybe they didn't realize there was a child in it and, therefore abandoned the car? Maybe, but then why would they take the child? The story blows. And so did Dre's attempt to pass the polygraph. Not only that, but two witnesses saw the action: one saw D'Andre driving alone down the street and the other, standing by a window overlooking the alley, saw Lane pull the vehicle into it and walk away. No baby seen with him or in the car.
D'Andre Lane is swearing up and down he didn't have anything to do with his daughter going missing, but everything about his story has been pretty much been annihilated by the circumstances and witnesses. The cadaver dogs hitting in his apartment and in his car pretty much puts a bow on his story as being a crock.
D'Andre Lane is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, but he isn't a suspect for nothing. In the words of Gerry McCann, "Ask the dogs."
(left: cadaver dog hits behind sofa in the McCann's Praia da Luz, Portugal vacation rental apartment. From police files.)
_______________________________________________
My ebook, Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann, removed from Amazon following threat of legal action by Carter-Ruck on behalf of Gerry and Kate McCann, can still be found online at Barnes and Noble and Smashwords. Keep posted for news of my upcoming legal action with attorney Anne Bremner against the McCanns for tortuous interference with business and libel.
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Posted by Pat Brown at 11:44 AM
Labels: Bianca Jones, cadaver dogs, D'Andre Lane, Madeleine McCann, Pat Brown's posts
2 comments:
JillyCL said...
Thanks Pat. My heart always sinks when I hear that cadaver dogs have alerted in a missing child case.
I think in the McCann case it's relevant that Eddie the cadaver dog is an EVRD - an Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog - and he's had training with the FBI in the USA on human cadavers at the Body Farm.
Martin Grime, Eddie's handler states in his police evidence (PJ Files) that Eddie alerts to human cadaver and he has never alerted to 'Road Kill' (or bacon sandwiches, as the McCann sycophants constantly and erroneously insist).
Martin Grime's profile on Eddie & Keela from the police files:-
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post425.html#p425
Thank you for all the work you're doing to discover the truth about what happened to Maddie in Portugal, in Spring 2007.
December 14, 2011 1:38 AM
Anonymous said...
You have truly put a perspective on the cases where Cadaver dogs have been used both in the UK and USA, by pulling this cases together it really brings home to you the value of these dogs.
One wonders, although do we need to what the reaction of Mr and Mrs McCann would have been had any hint whatsoever of cadaver odour been found in or around Robert Murat’s home.
I don’t know much about the way of libel\litigation laws but the move on Amazon by Carter Ruck, was extraordinary considering it was the professional opinion synopsis of a person like yourself. Would you settle out of court if that was offered? But as you can imagine there has been no reference to your pending litigation or that of Mr Amaral.
The media, particularly the press in the UK will be undergoing major revisions under the Leveson inquiry, but perhaps it needs also to concentrate of those aspects of PEOPLE or manipulate the media\generally, as was as the media\press & it’s practices. That manipulation of planned\scheduled interviews and very slanted reporting that is far from balanced. As you have now experienced yourself.
puddleduck
December 14, 2011 2:47 AM
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Re: "Are Cadaver Dogs saying You're Lying" Pat Brown 13/12/2011
I love Pat Brown and want to have her babies.
Well, the last bit is about as likely as it is that Madeleine has been abducted.
Well, the last bit is about as likely as it is that Madeleine has been abducted.
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The End is Nigh: I should think that the first bit is much more likely so congratulations on the forthcoming happy events!
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The End Is Nigh wrote:I love Pat Brown and want to have her babies.
Well, the last bit is about as likely as it is that Madeleine has been abducted.
Then, would they be little Brownies?
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Re: "Are Cadaver Dogs saying You're Lying" Pat Brown 13/12/2011
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Funny thing about those cadaver dogs; they haven't got a bone to pick with the person being investigated, no interest in closing a case or in railroading anyone. They just do what they have been trained to do. They may not be perfect in that they miss hitting on a spot, but they don't hit on spots for no reason. They are trained to locate where dead bodies of humans have been, not live human beings, not dirty diapers, not on a package of meat, nor a hundred other unseen types of biological items. There is only one thing that trips them up; the body of a decomposing pig (because of the similarity it has to a human body). Unless you can prove you had a dead hog lying about in you living room or in your car, the hit a cadaver dog makes is going to be on human remains. Actually, I am the one of very few people who could actually have a cadaver dog hit in my house for that very reason since my beloved potbelly pig, Gwendolyn (see the video) did indeed expire on my living room floor; however, most people can't make that claim.
Gerry and Kate McCann, parents of the missing child, Madeleine McCann, dismiss the fact that Eddie, the cadaver dog, hit in their vacation apartment and in their rental car in 2007 (but not in any of their friends' vacation apartments nor early suspect Robert Murat's house or property) as meaningless because cadaver dogs are "rubbish."
Well said Pat Brown!! That's gonna hurt the Mcs when they read that.
Just wait until she gets them to court.
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Re: "Are Cadaver Dogs saying You're Lying" Pat Brown 13/12/2011
The End Is Nigh, Not Born Yesterday and marxman
Very amusing
I would like to say something similar but I can't because I am a "layyydeee" and that would be difficult!
Pat brown doesn't waste words - to the point and concise.
It has always struck me as very smug - Gerry's reply to Sandra F. - "Ask the dogs, Sandra". As though it didn't matter one fig what dog found what scent there was nothing going to stick to them at all. Even direct evidence would not harm them. It's why they should have this shield that's worrying.
Very amusing
I would like to say something similar but I can't because I am a "layyydeee" and that would be difficult!
Pat brown doesn't waste words - to the point and concise.
It has always struck me as very smug - Gerry's reply to Sandra F. - "Ask the dogs, Sandra". As though it didn't matter one fig what dog found what scent there was nothing going to stick to them at all. Even direct evidence would not harm them. It's why they should have this shield that's worrying.
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Re: "Are Cadaver Dogs saying You're Lying" Pat Brown 13/12/2011
I watched a documentary recently on this case and the dog who indicated to the sofa was none other than Eddie.In that same year, a cadaver dog also alerted to the smell of death in Adrian Prout's UK home after his wife, Kate, vanished. Although he claimed he was innocent and her body had not been found, Prout was convicted. After having a fan club that protested steadily that Prout was railroaded, Prout confessed and indicated the area where the body was buried; then more cadaver dogs helped police in the search and Kate's body was found on his farm.
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Re: "Are Cadaver Dogs saying You're Lying" Pat Brown 13/12/2011
Not only is Eddie an EVR dog training with FBI, he is used training forensics teams including the Harris County Sheriff's Dept which he was over in Houston doing last March. It was in the papers here.
The nation's top police forces haven't yet gotten the memo that he is "rubbish" and in fact he is considered a Subject Matter Expert and insured as such, and he and his handler well paid as such.
Sandra's not the only one asking the dogs.
The nation's top police forces haven't yet gotten the memo that he is "rubbish" and in fact he is considered a Subject Matter Expert and insured as such, and he and his handler well paid as such.
Sandra's not the only one asking the dogs.
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