A hurt which never goes away
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A hurt which never goes away
http://www.mirror.co.uk/mobile/news-opinion/2011/12/17/a-hurt-which-never-goes-away-for-the-mccanns-even-at-christmas-time-115875-23640737/#ixzz1gl7h7Pwg
DESPITE the fact that Christmas now seems to start in October, a new report claims we didn’t actually feel “Christmassy” until Thursday this week.
Well, bully for us, because while we’re stressing out over presents, trees, decorations, food and the lack of money to buy it all with, there are some for whom Christmas is a damn sight more painful.
On Monday I went to the Missing People Christmas Carol Service, dedicated to the memory of those who won’t be home for Christmas and, in some cases, haven’t been for years.
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I sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann, whom I’ve had the pleasure of meeting on several occasions.
I don’t need to tell you that their eldest daughter Madeleine has been missing for over four years now, her presence replaced by a continuing ache.
It’s hard to utter throwaway salutations on seeing someone again when you know their suffering never ceases. A simple phrase like “how are you?” can suddenly sound like the elephant in the room, when the answer “how the hell do you think they are?” booms away inside your head.
They must know there’s a sense of “what to say/ what not to say” when encountering them, because the McCanns are great at making people feel comfortable.
Gerry has got a brilliant sense of humour, which must have been his secret weapon during the years following Madeleine’s disappearance. That and his obvious love for Kate, whose hand he held throughout the service.
We talked about Madeleine and of how her disappearance is very much a part of her twin brother and sister, Sean and Amelie’s, lives.
Heartbreakingly, Gerry told me that one of the six-year-olds had said: “Will it be a good Christmas this year, even though Madeleine’s still not home?”
It’s hard to sing a Christmas carol when someone has told you that, let alone to stand at a lectern and deliver a heart-tugging reading when you’re the one living the nightmare.
You could hear the profound silence as Kate read words from The Beacon by Simon Armitage: “... somewhere out there there has to be life, the distance only a matter of time, a world like our own, its markings and shades as uniquely formed as a daughter’s eye, distinctly flecked, undeniably hers, looking back this way through the miles and years...”
So while most of us are looking forward to spending time with loved ones next weekend, just imagine what it must be like to live Christmas in a never-ending limbo.
DESPITE the fact that Christmas now seems to start in October, a new report claims we didn’t actually feel “Christmassy” until Thursday this week.
Well, bully for us, because while we’re stressing out over presents, trees, decorations, food and the lack of money to buy it all with, there are some for whom Christmas is a damn sight more painful.
On Monday I went to the Missing People Christmas Carol Service, dedicated to the memory of those who won’t be home for Christmas and, in some cases, haven’t been for years.
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I sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann, whom I’ve had the pleasure of meeting on several occasions.
I don’t need to tell you that their eldest daughter Madeleine has been missing for over four years now, her presence replaced by a continuing ache.
It’s hard to utter throwaway salutations on seeing someone again when you know their suffering never ceases. A simple phrase like “how are you?” can suddenly sound like the elephant in the room, when the answer “how the hell do you think they are?” booms away inside your head.
They must know there’s a sense of “what to say/ what not to say” when encountering them, because the McCanns are great at making people feel comfortable.
Gerry has got a brilliant sense of humour, which must have been his secret weapon during the years following Madeleine’s disappearance. That and his obvious love for Kate, whose hand he held throughout the service.
We talked about Madeleine and of how her disappearance is very much a part of her twin brother and sister, Sean and Amelie’s, lives.
Heartbreakingly, Gerry told me that one of the six-year-olds had said: “Will it be a good Christmas this year, even though Madeleine’s still not home?”
It’s hard to sing a Christmas carol when someone has told you that, let alone to stand at a lectern and deliver a heart-tugging reading when you’re the one living the nightmare.
You could hear the profound silence as Kate read words from The Beacon by Simon Armitage: “... somewhere out there there has to be life, the distance only a matter of time, a world like our own, its markings and shades as uniquely formed as a daughter’s eye, distinctly flecked, undeniably hers, looking back this way through the miles and years...”
So while most of us are looking forward to spending time with loved ones next weekend, just imagine what it must be like to live Christmas in a never-ending limbo.
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WHAT RUBBISH THIS WOMAN WRITES she sounds I wonder if poor Kerry Neddham was there, it must break her heart to see all the fuss the McsScums get. God it makes me
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I sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann, whom I’ve had the pleasure of meeting on several occasions."
fiona Phillips, hang your head in shame for writing this drivel.
fiona Phillips, hang your head in shame for writing this drivel.
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I feel sorry for Sean and Amelie if they did say that, must be so confusing for them.
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Be even more confusing when They read the official PJ files...
.......the child, Madeleine McCann, died In apartment 3a on 3rd may 2007 and the parents don't want to give up the cadaver...
Or is the libel trial all about re writing 'that part' or even whooshing them by taking mr amaral to the cleaners.
I have often thought this isn't about money now but about winning the libel case against him thus proving to the worshippers that he is a lier, the part about Madeleine dying in the apt was HIS and on HIS opinion only and by winning it has proved that he LIED.
.......the child, Madeleine McCann, died In apartment 3a on 3rd may 2007 and the parents don't want to give up the cadaver...
Or is the libel trial all about re writing 'that part' or even whooshing them by taking mr amaral to the cleaners.
I have often thought this isn't about money now but about winning the libel case against him thus proving to the worshippers that he is a lier, the part about Madeleine dying in the apt was HIS and on HIS opinion only and by winning it has proved that he LIED.
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I think it's all about the money, Kitti, perhaps they still haven't given up on the Fame, Celebrity and Admiration, but the money is the main thing.
Amaral's statements aren't much published, so proving he lied by winning the case isn't going to make a big impact. In any case, focussing on that would have to bring up ALL the evidence to the contrary. Something I don't think they're willing to do.
I read somewhere they're not going to be there themselves, an escape clause in case they lose? Because then they can say 'if we'd been there etc'.
It would not be a popular move for the Portugese Court to bend the law to accommodate the McCanns. Therefore the political climate for the McCanns is very much like the weather we're having....
Amaral's statements aren't much published, so proving he lied by winning the case isn't going to make a big impact. In any case, focussing on that would have to bring up ALL the evidence to the contrary. Something I don't think they're willing to do.
I read somewhere they're not going to be there themselves, an escape clause in case they lose? Because then they can say 'if we'd been there etc'.
It would not be a popular move for the Portugese Court to bend the law to accommodate the McCanns. Therefore the political climate for the McCanns is very much like the weather we're having....
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Perhaps Fiona Phillips should be first in line in Clarkson's sights .......................................
What a sickly, sickening and delusional diatribe,
If I looked at SWMBO the way McCann looks at Healy in public, she'd go for "a long walk" at the very least.
What a sickly, sickening and delusional diatribe,
If I looked at SWMBO the way McCann looks at Healy in public, she'd go for "a long walk" at the very least.
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Well i hope your right but I also think this is about discrediting mr Amarals theory and that means alot to the mccanns as he is a thorn in his side.
Saying about not many people out off portugual knowing about mr. Amaral and the files, yes you are right their but all the time their is this little bit off chance that the twins could find out About it or read it worries them....they need to quash his theory and by doing it and going to court and WINNING means everything to them.
I believe they will not win anyway as it would look ridiculous that a judge has overturned the book ban yet say that his book was libellous in the upcoming court case.
Saying about not many people out off portugual knowing about mr. Amaral and the files, yes you are right their but all the time their is this little bit off chance that the twins could find out About it or read it worries them....they need to quash his theory and by doing it and going to court and WINNING means everything to them.
I believe they will not win anyway as it would look ridiculous that a judge has overturned the book ban yet say that his book was libellous in the upcoming court case.
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God, what a start to my Saturday morning! I always used to associate Fiona Phillips with learning of the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, as she was the reporter on the first programme which I switched on on that day.
Now she has acquiired a whole new image in my mind and I'd rather have kept the first one. Fiona, what planet are you living on, love?
Now she has acquiired a whole new image in my mind and I'd rather have kept the first one. Fiona, what planet are you living on, love?
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So, what was the Missing People Christmas Carol Service like? Was it uplifting for any of those present whose loved ones were missing? Who was there? Were there families of missing adults, missing children, loved ones who had been missing for a long time? Who else spoke at the service? Surely it wasn't totally led by Kate McCann? Yet, all we are told of this service in memory of missing people is that the author sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann and about what Katy did.
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AnnaEsse wrote:So, what was the Missing People Christmas Carol Service like? Was it uplifting for any of those present whose loved ones were missing? Who was there? Were there families of missing adults, missing children, loved ones who had been missing for a long time? Who else spoke at the service? Surely it wasn't totally led by Kate McCann? Yet, all we are told of this service in memory of missing people is that the author sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann and about what Katy did.
I know AnnaEsse..........Clarence is working overtime arranging all these "appearances by the McCanns.
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the McCanns are great at making people feel comfortable. I am sorry but they give me the creeps!
Gerry has got a brilliant sense of humour, He certainly has - there is hardly a day when something either he or Kates does or says that does not have me splitting my sides!!
Gerry has got a brilliant sense of humour, He certainly has - there is hardly a day when something either he or Kates does or says that does not have me splitting my sides!!
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Hi folks its mickey1 but I rather buffered up my application so now I'm mickey18
It seems to me that a cluster of McAppearances means distraction from something REALLY going on..
not to mention spun reports on something that could be rather awkward for them
Wonder what it could be?
It seems to me that a cluster of McAppearances means distraction from something REALLY going on..
not to mention spun reports on something that could be rather awkward for them
Wonder what it could be?
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Sadly mickey1/18, we've had all this before ............... hopes raised that something nasty in the woodshed is coming home to roost (Oh how I love a mixed metaphor), but sadly to no avail.
We can but hope, though.
We can but hope, though.
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Sorry - its just struck me - this article is something to make the Mc's look relaxed - something to counter those very tense images of them walking into the Leveson Inquiry recently- something that says - 'SY talking to Mondeo3 - am I bovvered!!
My god these things do become so transparent after a while.
[quote="NoStone"]the McCanns are great at making people feel comfortable. Gerry has got a brilliant sense of humour,
My god these things do become so transparent after a while.
[quote="NoStone"]the McCanns are great at making people feel comfortable. Gerry has got a brilliant sense of humour,
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AnnaEsse wrote:So, what was the Missing People Christmas Carol Service like? Was it uplifting for any of those present whose loved ones were missing? Who was there? Were there families of missing adults, missing children, loved ones who had been missing for a long time? Who else spoke at the service? Surely it wasn't totally led by Kate McCann? Yet, all we are told of this service in memory of missing people is that the author sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann and about what Katy did.
I can't find a report about the service after the event but here's a link to some pre-publicity.
http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/missing-people/fundraising/christmas-carol-service-in-aid-of-missing-people
Shame on the McCanns for gatecrashing another genuine charity event.
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what about the hurt they caused maddie by leaving herr alone screaming and crying and them not caring????
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Well it's about par for the course for F F F Phillips (the extra Fs are mine).
It's good that they were sitting together - I've always believed you should herd all of the strange people in to one part of the church, preferably right at the back behind a large pillar. Then when the incense appears, they won't be shouting: "Oi bishop! Yer handbag's on fire!"
Yes, it's all part of the 'feel good about the McCanns' campaign and much more will follow leading up to February with the usual bum-lickers being wheeled out.
"Gerry has got a brilliant sense of humour, which must have been his secret weapon during the years following Madeleine’s disappearance."
This of course excuses all the 'grinning idiot' images so soon after the disappearance, like the one of GM on the balcony. And possibly the much more recent one in Amsterdam. (He wasn't being frivolous you understand, just keeping their spirits up ......).
"That and his obvious love for Kate ..."
That made oi larf til moi socks be droppin' orf.
" ... as uniquely formed as a daughter’s eye, distinctly flecked, undeniably hers."
Blimey Charlie, first of all it was a coloboma, then it was just a fleck, hardly noticeable, now it's distinct and undeniable.
Ho yes it is, ho no it isn't, ho yes ............ pass the paracetamol someone ...
And so it will go on, well into the new year. Don't have nightmares folks ...
It's good that they were sitting together - I've always believed you should herd all of the strange people in to one part of the church, preferably right at the back behind a large pillar. Then when the incense appears, they won't be shouting: "Oi bishop! Yer handbag's on fire!"
Yes, it's all part of the 'feel good about the McCanns' campaign and much more will follow leading up to February with the usual bum-lickers being wheeled out.
"Gerry has got a brilliant sense of humour, which must have been his secret weapon during the years following Madeleine’s disappearance."
This of course excuses all the 'grinning idiot' images so soon after the disappearance, like the one of GM on the balcony. And possibly the much more recent one in Amsterdam. (He wasn't being frivolous you understand, just keeping their spirits up ......).
"That and his obvious love for Kate ..."
That made oi larf til moi socks be droppin' orf.
" ... as uniquely formed as a daughter’s eye, distinctly flecked, undeniably hers."
Blimey Charlie, first of all it was a coloboma, then it was just a fleck, hardly noticeable, now it's distinct and undeniable.
Ho yes it is, ho no it isn't, ho yes ............ pass the paracetamol someone ...
And so it will go on, well into the new year. Don't have nightmares folks ...
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Not Born Yesterday wrote:AnnaEsse wrote:So, what was the Missing People Christmas Carol Service like? Was it uplifting for any of those present whose loved ones were missing? Who was there? Were there families of missing adults, missing children, loved ones who had been missing for a long time? Who else spoke at the service? Surely it wasn't totally led by Kate McCann? Yet, all we are told of this service in memory of missing people is that the author sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann and about what Katy did.
I can't find a report about the service after the event but here's a link to some pre-publicity.
http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/missing-people/fundraising/christmas-carol-service-in-aid-of-missing-people
Shame on the McCanns for gatecrashing another genuine charity event.
Thanks Not Born Yesterday, "That Clarrifies" why the McCanns travelled all the way to London , just to hobnob with the Celebrities . Pity the poor twins,
how often are the Parents with them
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Panda wrote:Not Born Yesterday wrote:AnnaEsse wrote:So, what was the Missing People Christmas Carol Service like? Was it uplifting for any of those present whose loved ones were missing? Who was there? Were there families of missing adults, missing children, loved ones who had been missing for a long time? Who else spoke at the service? Surely it wasn't totally led by Kate McCann? Yet, all we are told of this service in memory of missing people is that the author sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann and about what Katy did.
I can't find a report about the service after the event but here's a link to some pre-publicity.
http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/missing-people/fundraising/christmas-carol-service-in-aid-of-missing-people
Shame on the McCanns for gatecrashing another genuine charity event.
Thanks Not Born Yesterday, "That Clarrifies" why the McCanns travelled all the way to London , just to hobnob with the Celebrities . Pity the poor twins,
how often are the Parents with them
I've just been on the missing people website and there is a photo of the McCans in a prime spot. They are sitting in between Fiona Phillips and Brenda Blethyn and Trevor McDonald is sitting in front of them. Written in the article is the speech Kate McCann gave.
The service was in the presence of the charity's Royal Patron, the Duchess of Gloucester. I wonder if the McCanns managed to meet her, or if she avoided them like the plague, which is what Prince Charles did, when they attended an event he was also attending.
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kathybelle wrote:Panda wrote:Not Born Yesterday wrote:AnnaEsse wrote:So, what was the Missing People Christmas Carol Service like? Was it uplifting for any of those present whose loved ones were missing? Who was there? Were there families of missing adults, missing children, loved ones who had been missing for a long time? Who else spoke at the service? Surely it wasn't totally led by Kate McCann? Yet, all we are told of this service in memory of missing people is that the author sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann and about what Katy did.
I can't find a report about the service after the event but here's a link to some pre-publicity.
http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/missing-people/fundraising/christmas-carol-service-in-aid-of-missing-people
Shame on the McCanns for gatecrashing another genuine charity event.
Thanks Not Born Yesterday, "That Clarrifies" why the McCanns travelled all the way to London , just to hobnob with the Celebrities . Pity the poor twins,
how often are the Parents with them
I've just been on the missing people website and there is a photo of the McCans in a prime spot. They are sitting in between Fiona Phillips and Brenda Blethyn and Trevor McDonald is sitting in front of them. Written in the article is the speech Kate McCann gave.
The service was in the presence of the charity's Royal Patron, the Duchess of Gloucester. I wonder if the McCanns managed to meet her, or if she avoided them like the plague, which is what Prince Charles did, when they attended an event he was also attending.
Hi kathybelle, any chance you can post the link on here so we can see the photo? Ta
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http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/missing-people/latest-news/families-of-missing-people-remember-loved-ones-at-christmas
Fortunately the photo was taken by candlelight so you can't see the gruesome twosome too clearly!
Fortunately the photo was taken by candlelight so you can't see the gruesome twosome too clearly!
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fiona phillips number one mcann fan well all the others never neglected their missing loved ones . look at the pic of kate butter wouldnt melt .oh and a bit of a sad face a lot sadder than madeleine 4th birthday
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Panda wrote:kathybelle wrote:Panda wrote:Not Born Yesterday wrote:AnnaEsse wrote:So, what was the Missing People Christmas Carol Service like? Was it uplifting for any of those present whose loved ones were missing? Who was there? Were there families of missing adults, missing children, loved ones who had been missing for a long time? Who else spoke at the service? Surely it wasn't totally led by Kate McCann? Yet, all we are told of this service in memory of missing people is that the author sat next to Kate and Gerry McCann and about what Katy did.
I can't find a report about the service after the event but here's a link to some pre-publicity.
http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/missing-people/fundraising/christmas-carol-service-in-aid-of-missing-people
Shame on the McCanns for gatecrashing another genuine charity event.
Thanks Not Born Yesterday, "That Clarrifies" why the McCanns travelled all the way to London , just to hobnob with the Celebrities . Pity the poor twins,
how often are the Parents with them
I've just been on the missing people website and there is a photo of the McCans in a prime spot. They are sitting in between Fiona Phillips and Brenda Blethyn and Trevor McDonald is sitting in front of them. Written in the article is the speech Kate McCann gave.
The service was in the presence of the charity's Royal Patron, the Duchess of Gloucester. I wonder if the McCanns managed to meet her, or if she avoided them like the plague, which is what Prince Charles did, when they attended an event he was also attending.
Hi kathybelle, any chance you can post the link on here so we can see the photo? Ta
Panda, sorry I should have said I clicked the link which is in your post above this post, that I have just written. If you click the link you will see "Home" at the top of the page. Click "Home" and you will come to a page that contains news. The first article in the news section, is called Families of missing people, remember loved ones. Read the article and at the bottom you will see the words "Read more" click the words and you will come to the page where the photograph of the McCanns is.
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