"About Madeleine'

I was visiting their official findmadeleine site
and thought this was a disturbing description
of madeleine. I will just post the paragraph in
question, see if you agree:

Madeleine is a very happy little girl with an outgoing personality. She has always been a very popular little person, appealing to both children and adults alike with her funny and engaging chatter. She has many friends who obviously miss her dearly. Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before.

marxman the bit that disturbs me from the description on there is this.

"Madeleine is a warm, life-enriching little person and will never fail we're sure, to bring joy into the life of anyone she may encounter."

gillyspot wrote:marxman the bit that disturbs me from the description on there is this.

"Madeleine is a warm, life-enriching little person and will never fail we're sure, to bring joy into the life of anyone she may encounter."

Yes gillyspot, who writes their stuff?
I noticed that too but I was curious
in their past-tense! 'had'
But you are correct, a real weird way
to express lovable qualities.

marxman wrote:I was visiting their official findmadeleine site
and thought this was a disturbing description
of madeleine. I will just post the paragraph in
question, see if you agree:

Madeleine is a very happy little girl with an outgoing personality. She has always been a very popular little person, appealing to both children and adults alike with her funny and engaging chatter. She has many friends who obviously miss her dearly. Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before.

Has the idea that she's been on this earth before anything to do with Nigel Nessing's beliefs as set out in

A Destiny Begun - Nigel Nessling
http://nigelnessling.wordpress.com/

gillyspot wrote:marxman the bit that disturbs me from the description on there is this.

"Madeleine is a warm, life-enriching little person and will never fail we're sure, to bring joy into the life of anyone she may encounter."

"... and will never fail we're sure, to bring joy ..."
Sounds like the child has to make a conscious effort to please. Like never failing an exam by making a conscious effort to do well. Was it Payne who talked about the 'obedient' child? She was obviously dutifully compliant because "we're sure ..."
That's a whole lot of certainty about a tiny little girl's changing moods and whims.
How could they be so 'sure'?

"... anyone she may encounter ..."
Dunno about you, but I would have used the word 'meet'.
Encounter sounds so random, like ships that pass in the night ...

You're right, it is disturbing.
It reads like an advertisement.

marxman wrote:I was visiting their official findmadeleine site
and thought this was a disturbing description
of madeleine. I will just post the paragraph in
question, see if you agree:

Madeleine is a very happy little girl with an outgoing personality. She has always been a very popular little person, appealing to both children and adults alike with her funny and engaging chatter. She has many friends who obviously miss her dearly. Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before.

Definitely not a Roman Catholic concept.

AnnaEsse wrote:

marxman wrote:I was visiting their official findmadeleine site
and thought this was a disturbing description
of madeleine. I will just post the paragraph in
question, see if you agree:

Madeleine is a very happy little girl with an outgoing personality. She has always been a very popular little person, appealing to both children and adults alike with her funny and engaging chatter. She has many friends who obviously miss her dearly. Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before.

Definitely not a Roman Catholic concept.

Their 'faith' seems to be a bit pick and mix. The Pope didn't fall for it.

Those descriptions are as almost gothic says, almost like an advertisement.
I've not seen any pictorial evidence of her 'many friends'. In videos and many photos she looks very lonely to me.
These friends 'who miss her dearly'? Shouldn't that be 'friends who miss her very much?' Love her dearly, miss her badly/very much. I think.
Everything her parents say about Maddie is as if they are talking about a mini adult, not a toddler.

Madeleine is a very happy little girl with an outgoing personality. She has always been a very popular little person, appealing to both children and adults alike with her funny and engaging chatter.
We have very, very few reports of conversations with her parents, siblings and as someone pointed out - only two reported conversations from PdL - both on the 3rd May, the crying question in the morning and the 'I had the best ever day Mummy' in the evening.
Never happened imo.

What on earth is going on here?

It's like the lonely hearts column: I am an outgoing, happy person who loves to make people feel good - I love meeting new people etc. etc.

Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before. ......

I can imagine one of the grandmas saying that actually. My Mum and her's used to say it about an intelligent, forward for their age child. Maybe it's a Northern thing, I've heard it often.

The rest of the spiel sounds as if they're trying to rehome the family spaniel!

ann_chovey wrote:
Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before. ......

I can imagine one of the grandmas saying that actually. My Mum and her's used to say it about an intelligent, forward for their age child. Maybe it's a Northern thing, I've heard it often.

The rest of the spiel sounds as if they're trying to rehome the family spaniel!

I think they would give more time and thought to that. No time to look for her and no time to think before they engage their mouths.

ann_chovey wrote:
Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before. ......

I can imagine one of the grandmas saying that actually. My Mum and her's used to say it about an intelligent, forward for their age child. Maybe it's a Northern thing, I've heard it often.

The rest of the spiel sounds as if they're trying to rehome the family spaniel!

I don't know about it being a Northern expression, perhaps more typical of an older generation. Yes I think that it just means a child who's very wise for their age.

I love the bit about rehoming the family dog! I always think that Kate's efforts to describe life as a family have very little basis in reality - what I would call "welcome to Hello magazine world".

ann_chovey wrote:
Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before. ......

I can imagine one of the grandmas saying that actually. My Mum and her's used to say it about an intelligent, forward for their age child. Maybe it's a Northern thing, I've heard it often.

The rest of the spiel sounds as if they're trying to rehome the family spaniel!

That bit has either been written by Granny Eileen or Auntie Phil. It's a very common saying around the Glasgow/Central Scotland area that people use about a precocious child. TBH I don't think it's sinister at all, but then I was brought up in South Ayrshire and have heard the expression many times.

Been here before is a common saying in my family too. Of course, all my grandchildren have been here before as they're all so bright and special, but I think it was the past tense "had" which made alarm bells ring for marxman, not the actual saying.

dazedandconfused wrote:Been here before is a common saying in my family too. Of course, all my grandchildren have been here before as they're all so bright and special, but I think it was the past tense "had" which made alarm bells ring for marxman, not the actual saying.

Yes, the past tense is very telling. Madeleine "had", Madeleine "was", Madeleine "would".

dazedandconfused wrote:Been here before is a common saying in my family too. Of course, all my grandchildren have been here before as they're all so bright and special, but I think it was the past tense "had" which made alarm bells ring for marxman, not the actual saying.

Yes dazedandconfused, it was the use of the
past-tense that didn't sit right.When you
deconstruct the use of words/sentences/context it can
become very revealing to their true meaning.

I think whoever is in charge of 'mccann quotes' is on drugs.

Sounds like a character reference to me. Poor little girl.

"Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before."

If I was speaking of a LIVING child, I think I might say, ".....it often feels like Madeleine has been on this earth before." Definitely using the present tense not "felt like" and "had been".

interested wrote:"Despite her young age, it often felt like Madeleine had been on this earth before."

If I was speaking of a LIVING child, I think I might say, ".....it often feels like Madeleine has been on this earth before." Definitely using the present tense not "felt like" and "had been".

That's how Maxine Carr spoke when she was interviewed before her arrest.

Yes fred I remember that about Maxine Carr she spoke of those two pretty girls in the past tense!!!

Just like the spoke person for the McCanns do.

Im from Yorkshire and the saying here is when your refering to a confident clever child is....."that ones been here befor"