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Why?..
The following points are taken from a post I saved from the old 3As forum before it went down. I can't give credit to the poster as it was so long ago. Please comment if you can remember. These questions remain unanswered, and I have many more to add to the list - I'm sure you do too.
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When the McCann’s fled Portugal in September 2007, the British Police assisting the Portuguese enquiry left also. Madeleine was still missing, supposedly abducted. So why did the British Police quit the search the day after they were both made official suspects?
Since that day in September 2007, not one legitimate Police force has been actively looking for Madeleine, why?
Why were the Tapas 9 so keen to control the early stages of the investigation by writing out all of their timelines on Madeleine’s sticker book, before the Police had even arrived on the scene?
Why did the McCann’s with their limitless amounts of money coming in from generous donations, hire people who specialised in fraud and bomb disposal and who had no 'missing person' experience?
Why did the McCann’s ignore crucial Police advice by publicising Madeleine’s distinctive mark on her eye, which would almost certainly have guaranteed her immediate death and disposal?
Why did the McCann’s make Madeleine a Ward of Court after she had vanished? Was it to prevent any details of her medical records and other information from being made public for 75 years?
Why was it necessary to hire such a large team of lawyers when Madeleine first vanished, which also included Pinochet’s infamous extradition lawyer?
Why did Kate McCann refuse to answer all of the questions put to her?
Why did the McCann’s claim to know instantly that Madeleine had been abducted, yet waited 40 minutes before first contacting the Police?
Why did the McCann’s want the investigation shelved? It was within their legal rights to ask for the enquiry to remain open, which they turned down? Why?
Why did 3 UK Detectives deliver several files of information to the McCann’s home, shortly after they got back to the UK whilst they were still suspects?
Why did the cadaver and blood sniffer dogs Eddie and Keela, only indicate to their apartment and their car? I believe 7 properties and 10 cars were searched in total that day, but only the McCann’s apartment and car tested positive.
Why did the Home Office refuse to hand over to the Portuguese investigators details of the McCann’s bank details, credit cards and medical records? These are one of the first things any Police force obtain at the start of an investigation. So why were they refused assistance?
The British Authorities later informed the Portuguese Police that the McCann’s did not own any credit or debit cards? So how did Gerry manage to pay for his holiday?
Why were the McCann’s and their Tapas friends never seriously interrogated? Instead, during their Rogatory interviews the British Police assisted them with some of their answers, which can be clearly seen in their statements.
Why did Gerry delete all the phone calls from his mobile on the 2nd of May, the day before Madeleine disappeared and also one received from Kate on 3rd May at 23.17 p.m., just over an hour after she had raised the alarm? Neither went to search for Madeleine, so why did Kate need to call him? Where did he go?
Why did Gerry have to fly home to obtain something with Madeleine’s DNA on? Did he actually supply an accurate representation of Madeleine’s DNA to the Police? Why was there no DNA of Madeleine’s found in the apartment the night she vanished?, an apartment which she had lived in for 5 days? Not one strand of hair was found there belonging to the McCann twins either. It’s like the apartment had been scrubbed clean.
Why is the case filed under Homicide, Simulating a Crime & Hiding a Cadaver and not abduction?
How did the scent of cadaver from a dead body get on Madeleine’s Cuddlecat, a child’s red T shirt, Kate’s black/white cheque trousers and her white sleeveless top? Why only these items?
Why did Gerry have to move the position of the sofa in the lounge? The exact same sofa which was identified by the blood dog Keela, as containing minute traces of blood in 3 different positions on the back panel. The exact same sofa that Eddie the cadaver dog also identified the scent of cadaver behind. Is this just a coincidence, or is this evidence of staging?
Why did the British Government intervene and support them on an unprecedented level from day one?
Why did the British Government feel the need to appoint a spokesman Clarence Mitchell, to speak in public for the McCann’s and is still assisting them today? Has the British tax payer been paying for his services all this time?
Why are the British papers only interested in reporting on the abduction line, when there is not one shred of evidence to support this theory? In 2008, one third of the official police files was made available to the general public. Facts that every newspaper could have easily been printed without any fear of litigation. So why have they ignored all of this information?
Why was Kate so annoyed at being asked to attend the Police station in the early days to identify a little girl caught on CCTV, that was believed to be Madeleine?
Why would the McCann’s leave Madeleine in an unlocked apartment knowing she had a tendency to wake up and wander frequently at night?
Why did the British Secret Service immediately put the McCann’s under telephone surveillance and not inform the Portuguese Police?
Why would SOCA (the Serious Organised Crime Agency) get involved with a missing child?
Why did the British Police withhold a statement for at least 6 months from the Portuguese Investigators involving David Payne and Gerry McCann, over lewd allegations of paedophile behaviour as witnessed by another Doctor friend of theirs on a previous holiday?
Why was Gerry in possession of sensitive Police manuals only used by Special Police Services and Government Agencies? Who gave them to him and why?
Why did the McCann’s want Leicestershire Police heading up the investigation and not Scotland Yard? They wanted the help from the Government, but not the top Police Force, why?
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Why?..
The following points are taken from a post I saved from the old 3As forum before it went down. I can't give credit to the poster as it was so long ago. Please comment if you can remember. These questions remain unanswered, and I have many more to add to the list - I'm sure you do too.
~o0o~
When the McCann’s fled Portugal in September 2007, the British Police assisting the Portuguese enquiry left also. Madeleine was still missing, supposedly abducted. So why did the British Police quit the search the day after they were both made official suspects?
Since that day in September 2007, not one legitimate Police force has been actively looking for Madeleine, why?
Why were the Tapas 9 so keen to control the early stages of the investigation by writing out all of their timelines on Madeleine’s sticker book, before the Police had even arrived on the scene?
Why did the McCann’s with their limitless amounts of money coming in from generous donations, hire people who specialised in fraud and bomb disposal and who had no 'missing person' experience?
Why did the McCann’s ignore crucial Police advice by publicising Madeleine’s distinctive mark on her eye, which would almost certainly have guaranteed her immediate death and disposal?
Why did the McCann’s make Madeleine a Ward of Court after she had vanished? Was it to prevent any details of her medical records and other information from being made public for 75 years?
Why was it necessary to hire such a large team of lawyers when Madeleine first vanished, which also included Pinochet’s infamous extradition lawyer?
Why did Kate McCann refuse to answer all of the questions put to her?
Why did the McCann’s claim to know instantly that Madeleine had been abducted, yet waited 40 minutes before first contacting the Police?
Why did the McCann’s want the investigation shelved? It was within their legal rights to ask for the enquiry to remain open, which they turned down? Why?
Why did 3 UK Detectives deliver several files of information to the McCann’s home, shortly after they got back to the UK whilst they were still suspects?
Why did the cadaver and blood sniffer dogs Eddie and Keela, only indicate to their apartment and their car? I believe 7 properties and 10 cars were searched in total that day, but only the McCann’s apartment and car tested positive.
Why did the Home Office refuse to hand over to the Portuguese investigators details of the McCann’s bank details, credit cards and medical records? These are one of the first things any Police force obtain at the start of an investigation. So why were they refused assistance?
The British Authorities later informed the Portuguese Police that the McCann’s did not own any credit or debit cards? So how did Gerry manage to pay for his holiday?
Why were the McCann’s and their Tapas friends never seriously interrogated? Instead, during their Rogatory interviews the British Police assisted them with some of their answers, which can be clearly seen in their statements.
Why did Gerry delete all the phone calls from his mobile on the 2nd of May, the day before Madeleine disappeared and also one received from Kate on 3rd May at 23.17 p.m., just over an hour after she had raised the alarm? Neither went to search for Madeleine, so why did Kate need to call him? Where did he go?
Why did Gerry have to fly home to obtain something with Madeleine’s DNA on? Did he actually supply an accurate representation of Madeleine’s DNA to the Police? Why was there no DNA of Madeleine’s found in the apartment the night she vanished?, an apartment which she had lived in for 5 days? Not one strand of hair was found there belonging to the McCann twins either. It’s like the apartment had been scrubbed clean.
Why is the case filed under Homicide, Simulating a Crime & Hiding a Cadaver and not abduction?
How did the scent of cadaver from a dead body get on Madeleine’s Cuddlecat, a child’s red T shirt, Kate’s black/white cheque trousers and her white sleeveless top? Why only these items?
Why did Gerry have to move the position of the sofa in the lounge? The exact same sofa which was identified by the blood dog Keela, as containing minute traces of blood in 3 different positions on the back panel. The exact same sofa that Eddie the cadaver dog also identified the scent of cadaver behind. Is this just a coincidence, or is this evidence of staging?
Why did the British Government intervene and support them on an unprecedented level from day one?
Why did the British Government feel the need to appoint a spokesman Clarence Mitchell, to speak in public for the McCann’s and is still assisting them today? Has the British tax payer been paying for his services all this time?
Why are the British papers only interested in reporting on the abduction line, when there is not one shred of evidence to support this theory? In 2008, one third of the official police files was made available to the general public. Facts that every newspaper could have easily been printed without any fear of litigation. So why have they ignored all of this information?
Why was Kate so annoyed at being asked to attend the Police station in the early days to identify a little girl caught on CCTV, that was believed to be Madeleine?
Why would the McCann’s leave Madeleine in an unlocked apartment knowing she had a tendency to wake up and wander frequently at night?
Why did the British Secret Service immediately put the McCann’s under telephone surveillance and not inform the Portuguese Police?
Why would SOCA (the Serious Organised Crime Agency) get involved with a missing child?
Why did the British Police withhold a statement for at least 6 months from the Portuguese Investigators involving David Payne and Gerry McCann, over lewd allegations of paedophile behaviour as witnessed by another Doctor friend of theirs on a previous holiday?
Why was Gerry in possession of sensitive Police manuals only used by Special Police Services and Government Agencies? Who gave them to him and why?
Why did the McCann’s want Leicestershire Police heading up the investigation and not Scotland Yard? They wanted the help from the Government, but not the top Police Force, why?
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Why Why Why indeed.
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answer to all questions: Dunno (but I bet someone does)
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Thanks Annabel......something to chew over, I can answer 2 of the questions.
1. The Police left because the McCanns were made arguidos and left 2 days later. The Police were meant to be liaison Officers with the PJ and the
McCanns so once the Mccanns had left there was no reason for the U.K. Police to be there.
2. Madeleine was made a WofC on the advice of the QC who arrived in PDL within a couple of days of Madeleine reported missing. He said if the Parents had been charged with neglect and imprisoned if Madeleine was not found, the High Court would continue the search for her.
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WOW
To see it all written out like that has such an impact.
No one can deny there ain`t something very dodgy going on when you see it all written out like that. I hope SY see this. But I believe TB has presented a similar list to them, but whether they take any notice is another matter. If SY`s report doesn`t answer some of these questions, we`ll know for sure this country is totally corrupt.
There`s probably tons more `whys` that can be added to that list.
To see it all written out like that has such an impact.
No one can deny there ain`t something very dodgy going on when you see it all written out like that. I hope SY see this. But I believe TB has presented a similar list to them, but whether they take any notice is another matter. If SY`s report doesn`t answer some of these questions, we`ll know for sure this country is totally corrupt.
There`s probably tons more `whys` that can be added to that list.
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Oldartform wrote:WOW
To see it all written out like that has such an impact.
No one can deny there ain`t something very dodgy going on when you see it all written out like that. I hope SY see this. But I believe TB has presented a similar list to them, but whether they take any notice is another matter. If SY`s report doesn`t answer some of these questions, we`ll know for sure this country is totally corrupt.
There`s probably tons more `whys` that can be added to that list.
Hi Oldartform,
If the PJ let the Police see the shelved Files.....that will be where the incriminating evidence will be which is why the case was shelved , not closed. If
true the Mccanns had two months to request it be re-opened by did not make a request, that is very damning and makes a nonsense of their claim that
the PJ had stopped looking . Maybe the Prime Minister will come out of this with a censure from the Government if no evidence is found that the PJ did
not follow up every supposed sighting.
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Annabel
Thank you for this article from "thepottingshedder".
I could give answers to all these questions but I would probably end up being Carter Rucked!
Thank you for this article from "thepottingshedder".
I could give answers to all these questions but I would probably end up being Carter Rucked!
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Mr Amaral questioned why the British police left at the same as well.
They were there to Mainly to work with the pj , after all, it was them that wanted the dogs to go to PDL...so no, I don't understand why they left if they were there to liaise with them.
All I can think is, SY took over where the they left off.
SY were there in October 2007.
They were there to Mainly to work with the pj , after all, it was them that wanted the dogs to go to PDL...so no, I don't understand why they left if they were there to liaise with them.
All I can think is, SY took over where the they left off.
SY were there in October 2007.
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Panda wrote:Oldartform wrote:WOW
To see it all written out like that has such an impact.
No one can deny there ain`t something very dodgy going on when you see it all written out like that. I hope SY see this. But I believe TB has presented a similar list to them, but whether they take any notice is another matter. If SY`s report doesn`t answer some of these questions, we`ll know for sure this country is totally corrupt.
There`s probably tons more `whys` that can be added to that list.
Hi Oldartform,
If the PJ let the Police see the shelved Files.....that will be where the incriminating evidence will be which is why the case was shelved , not closed. If
true the Mccanns had two months to request it be re-opened by did not make a request, that is very damning and makes a nonsense of their claim that
the PJ had stopped looking . Maybe the Prime Minister will come out of this with a censure from the Government if no evidence is found that the PJ did
not follow up every supposed sighting.
Good morning Panda
Am I missing something? Why would the McCanns request the case was re-opened? Goncalo Amaral said the McCanns requested the case was closed. I'm amazed the McCanns request was granted, because it was obvious they had something to hide.
I read something different to what Goncalo Amaral said, when the McCanns were given the files. I read that the McCanns asked for the files and they were told that the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance would cease if they took the files. The McCanns supposedly accepted that fact and said they would use their own detectives to search for Madeleine.
Whether it was the McCanns who requested the case was closed, or whether it was the PJ who closed the case, because the McCanns took the files, the case was closed and the PJ were not looking for Madeleine.
I never understood why the McCanns complained bitterly to the British media, that the PJ were no longer looking for Madeleine, when they were the reason the investigation ceased?
I also never understood, why did Edgar and Cowley complained bitterly to the British media, that the PJ weren't following up their leads. They must have known that the PJ were no longer looking for Madeleine and the reasons why they weren't looking for Madeleine.
If Goncalo Amaral was speaking the truth, when he said the McCanns requested the case was closed, and I have no reason to believe he wasn't, I don't know why the PJ didn't issue a statement to say so, when the McCanns and their detectives were complaining to the British media.
I don't understand why this review is costing the British taxpayer, millions of pounds, when Scotland Yard are conducting the review in the UK. All they needed to do, is get a team of detectives to look through the files. It isn't as if SY are going over to Portugal and conducting a search for Madeleine, it is just paperwork they are sifting through.
It's all very strange.
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I think that if this was the case - that once the files were handed over the case investigation would cease, and it does sound right from what GA was intimating, even though it's a different way of saying it, I remember that this is what was meant by his statement.
What I think is that TM were merely putting on a "show" as per instructions from their "minders". Want to look innocent and purport to be so and still looking for Madeleine, gain the outcome you want (get your hands on the files and see what they hold to backfill if necessary) but still complain no one is officially looking and gain some sympathy. Nothing was done without a reason. We are/were "babes in arms" compared to what TM's hidden agenda really was/is.
I think that if this was the case - that once the files were handed over the case investigation would cease, and it does sound right from what GA was intimating, even though it's a different way of saying it, I remember that this is what was meant by his statement.
What I think is that TM were merely putting on a "show" as per instructions from their "minders". Want to look innocent and purport to be so and still looking for Madeleine, gain the outcome you want (get your hands on the files and see what they hold to backfill if necessary) but still complain no one is officially looking and gain some sympathy. Nothing was done without a reason. We are/were "babes in arms" compared to what TM's hidden agenda really was/is.
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Morning Kathybelle,
As far as I understand it, when the PJ shelved the case, the McCanns had two months to ask for it to be re-opened but did not make that request .
The PJ released all the Files, except those shelved, and the Press and McCanns had them translated , the McCanns said they paid £100,000.
It is wrong for the McCanns to claim the PJ was no longer searching , they knew the case was shelved which meant no more effort would be made to
find Madeleine but obviously they would check out any new evidence .
When the McCanns kept moaning that the PJ were not searching for Madeleine they were being disengenuous because their Portugese Lawyers would
have explained Portugese procedures to them. We know the LP spent over £1 million on the case, double that for Portugal and you can imagine how
the PJ felt when the McCanns treated them like s*** and refused to attend a recon .
The McCanns then tried to get the LP files released to them and appealed to the High Court, but the Chief Constable intervened saying the case was
ongoing and the Mccanns were allowed only 8 pieces.
The McCanns asked for a review and had an interview with Theresa May but the McCanns appealed to Cameron and he fell for it and agreed, much to
the dismay of some politicians. If no evidence is found of the PJ not chasing up leads etc Cameron will have a lot to answer for , but if the remit is
not just a review but another investigation the McCanns will rue the day they made their demand. I just pray they are not fed information by some
crooked cop......they have no right .
As far as I understand it, when the PJ shelved the case, the McCanns had two months to ask for it to be re-opened but did not make that request .
The PJ released all the Files, except those shelved, and the Press and McCanns had them translated , the McCanns said they paid £100,000.
It is wrong for the McCanns to claim the PJ was no longer searching , they knew the case was shelved which meant no more effort would be made to
find Madeleine but obviously they would check out any new evidence .
When the McCanns kept moaning that the PJ were not searching for Madeleine they were being disengenuous because their Portugese Lawyers would
have explained Portugese procedures to them. We know the LP spent over £1 million on the case, double that for Portugal and you can imagine how
the PJ felt when the McCanns treated them like s*** and refused to attend a recon .
The McCanns then tried to get the LP files released to them and appealed to the High Court, but the Chief Constable intervened saying the case was
ongoing and the Mccanns were allowed only 8 pieces.
The McCanns asked for a review and had an interview with Theresa May but the McCanns appealed to Cameron and he fell for it and agreed, much to
the dismay of some politicians. If no evidence is found of the PJ not chasing up leads etc Cameron will have a lot to answer for , but if the remit is
not just a review but another investigation the McCanns will rue the day they made their demand. I just pray they are not fed information by some
crooked cop......they have no right .
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Oldartform wrote:WOW
To see it all written out like that has such an impact.
No one can deny there ain`t something very dodgy going on when you see it all written out like that. I hope SY see this. But I believe TB has presented a similar list to them, but whether they take any notice is another matter. If SY`s report doesn`t answer some of these questions, we`ll know for sure this country is totally corrupt.
There`s probably tons more `whys` that can be added to that list.
Your right lets hope somebody has copied and e-mailed it to SY
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