Hair bead

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I've always thought that the famous "last photo" by the poolside may be genuine but taken the year before. That would explain why there was no hair bead in any other photo. I know it's all been said before but it is so hard to accept that all the photos issued are of the same child.

In the montage supplied by Matthew, the difference between the tennis ball girl and the one to the right in the playground is most noticable. It may be the different angle and range but there seems to be a great difference in height and the hair colour doesn't look the same.

I've always thought it was Maddie at about 3 + a few months. But what puzzles me about the pool photo is that Amelie hasn't got an upper right arm. It's not that it's behind her, because the sleeve, compared to the left, cannot be wide enough to leave so much empty space. Blown up there's quite a bit of blurring. My feeling is that it's Amelie who's photoshopped in - as she looks about the right age for 3/5/07. Gerry's sunglasses are reflecting the opposite side of the pool but vertically! Something seriously wrong with that photo.

matthew wrote:

I was thinking about kates"carefully took out Madeleines hair bead" for the what questions they answer before they are asked thread...does kate ever state when(which day of the holiday) the bead(elastic band) was put in her hair? from the photos from pdl it is only the 'last photo' of Maddie with the hair bead...or is the 'hair bead' just a story to explain the last photoshopped photo?
also could the hair bead have given the mccanns the idea for the good quality wristbands

Wintabells wrote:

Not Born Yesterday wrote:
There may be some members who haven't yet seen Pamalam's collection of all the photos issued of Madeleine so here's the link again.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/MADELEINE_PHOTOS.htm

Certainly a bewildering collection and it's been proved (on this site I think) that one of the photos (drinking from a can with a straw) is of the child actress Madeline O'Brien.

Thanks for that link, NBY.
The one that really troubles me is this one. It's listed as 'Nora Paul - Maddie', but it appeared in the press after Madeleine vanished and was taken on the McCanns' trip to Canada to see Aunty Nora with the twins. At the time, it was agreed that the child must be Amelie, not Madeleine, but I've never seen Amelie with her hair looking so much like her sister's. Normally she seems to have it in bunches, or something.

I agree Amelie looks very much like Madeleine. Who is the dark haired little girl with her back to camera in the top photo?

HiDeHo wrote:I have always had a couple of thoughts on the bead...no facts, just thoughts

I always felt that the time to plait her hair (and add the nonexistent) bead was more in preparation for/early the holiday and that the Last Pic was taken in the first couple of days.

If something happened to Madeleine, I could imagine Kate remembering this moment, one of the last with her daughter, but at an earlier time in the holiday. I always felt that Kate would have taken the band and put it on her wrist (and kept it there) and I have searched extensively for photos that may possibly show this.

It's only just occurred to me, after bringing it to my attention, that if this was so then it MAY be the thinking behind the wristbands!

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic67-60.html

Handwritten note referring to item 1

On 9th May 2007 at 06.00 a police officer from Aljezur found (at the back of Maddie’s parents bedroom) an elastic hair band abandoned/dropped on the floor.

(Can’t make out the sentence that follows).

I was searching before i posted of earlier photo's of kate to see if she had a white elastic band on her wrist & was searching to see if cuddlecat had it
The clothes gerry & Madeleine are wearing on the poolside picture are similar to the bus & stairs to the plane vids,so possibly could of been the day they arrived
My daughters have had their hair done on holiday & it takes about 25 minutes to do the full hair & they use elastic bands,the 'bead' in Madeleines hair looks like to me that kate has put it in
Was the reference to kate carefully removing the bead in her diary?

I think this picture shows Madeleine ( facing the camera) and Sean ( back to the camera).

Wintabells wrote:

AnnaEsse wrote:Is there a difference in dentition between these two photos?

I think the dentition looks pretty similar, but the smile (in the top image) is not one I've seen replicated in any other photo.

If you look carefully at that bead (which looks like 2 beads) there is a quite thick lock of hair coming out at the bottom, but where is the hair at the top of it? The bead appears to be floating.

LJC....that is paynes daughter ...the eldest.

AnnaEsse wrote:

Wintabells wrote:

AnnaEsse wrote:Is there a difference in dentition between these two photos?

I think the dentition looks pretty similar, but the smile (in the top image) is not one I've seen replicated in any other photo.

If you look carefully at that bead (which looks like 2 beads) there is a quite thick lock of hair coming out at the bottom, but where is the hair at the top of it? The bead appears to be floating.

It's possible the 'bead' was added later and then much emphasised in the 'story' for that evening? Perhaps the last photo is all about establishing that all was well on the afternoon of May 3rd and the 'bead' story is all about establishing that all was still well that evening? I've always queried why the last photo only turned up around 3 weeks after the alleged abduction since being the 'last' photo, it should surely have been the obvious choice for the initial search instead of the copyrighted pic emphasising the fleck in her eye; the fleck which has recently strangely become of secondary importance.

T4two wrote:

AnnaEsse wrote:

Wintabells wrote:

AnnaEsse wrote:Is there a difference in dentition between these two photos?

I think the dentition looks pretty similar, but the smile (in the top image) is not one I've seen replicated in any other photo.

If you look carefully at that bead (which looks like 2 beads) there is a quite thick lock of hair coming out at the bottom, but where is the hair at the top of it? The bead appears to be floating.

It's possible the 'bead' was added later and then much emphasised in the 'story' for that evening? Perhaps the last photo is all about establishing that all was well on the afternoon of May 3rd and the 'bead' story is all about establishing that all was still well that evening? I've always queried why the last photo only turned up around 3 weeks after the alleged abduction since being the 'last' photo, it should surely have been the obvious choice for the initial search instead of the copyrighted pic emphasising the fleck in her eye; the fleck which has recently strangely become of secondary importance.

I reckon that bead could have been added later. If you look at the angle of the hair coming from it, the hair going in from the top should be visible, but it's not. Very odd.

The hair going in from the top has been plaited.

Wintabells wrote:The hair going in from the top has been plaited.

Thank you. I see it now!

AnnaEsse wrote:

Wintabells wrote:The hair going in from the top has been plaited.

Thank you. I see it now!

The bead is not a bead, it is an elastic band and was certainly not in 'the last photo'. I saw it somewhere else but I can't remember now. It was debated on Anorak for months.

I think the 'last photo' wasnt from that holiday at all. Madeleine looks younger and the hair band hasnt been in any other photos of this time. On this supposed last photo she appears to have redness from the sun on her face. It wasnt sunny enough on that holiday.
Has it been said that Kate took this photo? If so, where was Sean at the time of capture? Was Kate in the pool at the time? If so, how did she manage to keep Sean afloat and take a picture? If Sean wasnt in the pool, who was looking after him?
Also I would have thought the pool temp was too cold for Kate to get into? Unless it was climate controlled?
Or was the photo taken across the pool?
I personally think that the poolside photo taken on madeleine was taken around the same time as the crimped hair photo.

Just seen this video on the Jill
Havern site, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztlimuj1t8w&feature=related


At 3.10 on the video,
Madeleine has two plaits with beads. The images of Maddie with her siblings and
grandparents are clearly of an earlier stage relative to the ‘playground photo’. Any opinions on how it compares to the ‘last photo’.

To my mind, in the 'playground photo' her hair looks stronger, longer and browner than in the 'last photo', and also her teeth seem bigger, stronger and less 'gappy' in the 'playhouse photo' than in the 'last photo'.

good morning annaesse,
i think that the hair above the "bead" is just a very fine plait of very fine hair.

blossom45 wrote: good morning annaesse,
i think that the hair above the "bead" is just a very fine plait of very fine hair.

Thanks blossom45. I finally noticed it!

Not Born Yesterday wrote:

Keela wrote:I have yet to see two photos which look as though it could be the same child.

There may be some members who haven't yet seen Pamalam's collection of all the photos issued of Madeleine so here's the link again.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/MADELEINE_PHOTOS.htm

Certainly a bewildering collection and it's been proved (on this site I think) that one of the photos (drinking from a can with a straw) is of the child actress Madeline O'Brien.

Hi
The photo you are referring to IS Madeleine McCann it was taken by a friend who was on holiday with them in Mallorca


http://www.ethicalkidz.co.uk/help-us-9-w.asp


This photo is of Madeline O’Brien star of Gone Baby Gone