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Post  Guest Wed 25 Apr - 12:35

AnnaEsse wrote:
Thistledown wrote:No.... wait

Apparently Mr Redwood said:

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QUOTE OF THE DAY, Andy Redwood, "Madeleine #McCann is either dead or alive" 2 million pounds of tax payers money for this statement.

So is Schrödinger's cat!



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Post  MaryB Wed 25 Apr - 12:41

I must say that I am surprised if SY has come to the conclusion that Madeleine is still alive. Statistically speaking most police forces I would imagine would come to the conclusion that a person who has disappeared without any trace at all would sadly not be alive. They must have evidence then that things are different in this particular case. As far as I know there hasn't been a British child who has been found alive after this length of time. Not counting of course cases where one parent has taken the child abroad. Still, I suppose if this review gets the case re-opened then it will be a start. But shame they couldn't have just saved the £2million and asked Portugal to re-open the case. I had a feeling from the that somebody who was now deceased would be declared the abductor. And the case permanently closed. But then I don't suppose Madeleine would be alive if it that was true. It is quite mysterious.
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Post  mahlersghost Wed 25 Apr - 12:45

The McCanns do not want a re-opening otherwise they would have asked a long, long time ago. Portugal requires more evidence to re-open unilaterally. Now it looks like SY is saying that the case should be re-opened - on what grounds is unclear. It does however put the ball in Portugal's half of the court and it must now be seen to be doing something positive. If Portugal does not re-open the case (and it may have good legal reasons still not to do that) the McCanns will have ammunition to use against the Portuguese justice system. Exactly what is going on is anybody's guess. Once politics and the mediaq enters into justice anything is possible.

And then again I could be totally wrong - it's just the way I see the whole situation.
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Post  curious george Wed 25 Apr - 12:56

Who benefits from this announcement?

The abductor has been given a head start to scarper.

The Mccanns’ have been given ‘evidence’ that Madeleine is alive to use against Amaral in the libel case.

Yet again, Madeleine appears to receive nothing.
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Post  Justiceforallkids Wed 25 Apr - 13:02

curious george wrote:Who benefits from this announcement?

The abductor has been given a head start to scarper.

The Mccanns’ have been given ‘evidence’ that Madeleine is alive to use against Amaral in the libel case.

Yet again, Madeleine appears to receive nothing.

exactly lets say if maddie really was abducted the abductor hearing that the SY know that maddie is alive what would the abductor do stay where they are and let people see that he/she has maddie or run???
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Post  almostgothic Wed 25 Apr - 13:03

AnnaEsse wrote:
Thistledown wrote:No.... wait

Apparently Mr Redwood said:

Nat Williams ‏ @MyBeamer59 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
QUOTE OF THE DAY, Andy Redwood, "Madeleine #McCann is either dead or alive" 2 million pounds of tax payers money for this statement.

So is Schrödinger's cat!

Maybe Andy 'Schrodinger' Redwood is expecting a Pavlovian response from a certain group of dogs people!
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Post  Justiceforallkids Wed 25 Apr - 13:06

almostgothic wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Thistledown wrote:No.... wait

Apparently Mr Redwood said:

Nat Williams ‏ @MyBeamer59 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
QUOTE OF THE DAY, Andy Redwood, "Madeleine #McCann is either dead or alive" 2 million pounds of tax payers money for this statement.

So is Schrödinger's cat!

Maybe Andy 'Schrodinger' Redwood is expecting a Pavlovian response from a certain group of dogs people!

you know the movie if these walls could talk in this case it should be if the dogs could talk!!!! im sure eddeie and keela would hsve tons to say!!!
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Post  Guest Wed 25 Apr - 14:38

the slave wrote:Can I just say ...............AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
There's a 'chance she may be alive'!!!
The Met dismissing the dog's findings????
I hope not.

That was my first thought too, Slave. IF she's still alive, then who was it that died in 5a?
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Post  mossman Wed 25 Apr - 14:40

Redwood has said worse than that now. Watch the ITV interview, when he spoke to them he said he believes she was taken.

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Post  the slave Wed 25 Apr - 14:43

Just saw a piece by Redwood on ItV.
I'm livid.
Livid, depressed, and deeply sad.
Looks like her maj and hubby are in the clear.
I will never forgive the Met for this. No Justice, No peace.
Time to demand transparency.
DEMAND IT!!!
It's OUR money funding this joke.
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Post  Justiceforallkids Wed 25 Apr - 14:47

the slave wrote:Just saw a piece by Redwood on ItV.
I'm livid.
Livid, depressed, and deeply sad.
Looks like her maj and hubby are in the clear.
I will never forgive the Met for this. No Justice, No peace.
Time to demand transparency.
DEMAND IT!!!
It's OUR money funding this joke.

dont you dare go away becasuse of this we need to keep figbhting for maddie because no one else will!!!
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Post  the slave Wed 25 Apr - 14:52

I'm going nowhere. If it takes another ten years I'll NEVER believe what I'm being forced to swallow here.
This is an absolute OUTRAGE.
They have completely dismissed the DOGS.
Unforgivable.
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Post  kitti Wed 25 Apr - 14:57

Let's not beat Around the bush here.......there's a 99% chance she is dead......there is a 1% chance, without a body off proof ...that she is alive......the met are going with the 1%.


It has been stated....if a child goes missing the first 24 hours a vital......after 36 hours the percentage off a child being found alive, goes down....48 it goes down even more and if a child is not found within 72 hours like with Sarah Payne , the chances off finding that child alive is ......nil.......



And that comes from a top cop.....so I would like to ask redwood.....why does he think THIS child is alive....when if she has been with a pedophile she would NOT be able to survive the abuse for very long let alone 5 bloody years .
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Post  Justiceforallkids Wed 25 Apr - 15:00

kitti wrote:Let's not beat Around the bush here.......there's a 99% chance she is dead......there is a 1% chance, without a body off proof ...that she is alive......the met are going with the 1%.


It has been stated....if a child goes missing the first 24 hours a vital......after 36 hours the percentage off a child being found alive, goes down....48 it goes down even more and if a child is not found within 72 hours like with Sarah Payne , the chances off finding that child alive is ......nil.......



And that comes from a top cop.....so I would like to ask redwood.....why does he think THIS child is alive....when if she has been with a pedophile she would NOT be able to survive the abuse for very long let alone 5 bloody years .

and lets be honest kitti would you want your child to suvive that long with that much trauma and abuse being done to her i would not
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Post  maive Wed 25 Apr - 15:01

kitti wrote:Let's not beat Around the bush here.......there's a 99% chance she is dead......there is a 1% chance, without a body off proof ...that she is alive......the met are going with the 1%.

This is exactly the point.. WHY on earth are they going with the 1%.... and dismissed the 99%????????????

Yes, WHY?????

Well.. I have a pretty good idea WHY.....
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Post  Guest Wed 25 Apr - 15:02

Will Martin Grime keep silent now? He was told not to comment on the McCann case. I bet he wants to scream from every rooftop now.
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Post  Claudia79 Wed 25 Apr - 17:55

Iris wrote:Will Martin Grime keep silent now? He was told not to comment on the McCann case. I bet he wants to scream from every rooftop now.

He will always keep silent because that is exactly what he has to do, especially while he is still working. However, I know what he thinks because he said it himself: he will believe his dogs until the day Madeleine is found alive. And I could't agree with him more.
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Post  tanszi Wed 25 Apr - 18:11

im with you and Martin Grimes on that too Claudia79.
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Post  laurie Wed 25 Apr - 18:14

I will also believe the dogs findings until the day that there is proof that Madeleine is alive as i believe there is in all probability zero chance after almost five years that she is . I feel sorry for martin Grimes who has been well and truly told to shut it. Was this Brian Kennedy witness tampering again i wonder
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Post  matthew Wed 25 Apr - 18:16

Claudia79 wrote:
Iris wrote:Will Martin Grime keep silent now? He was told not to comment on the McCann case. I bet he wants to scream from every rooftop now.

He will always keep silent because that is exactly what he has to do, especially while he is still working. However, I know what he thinks because he said it himself: he will believe his dogs until the day Madeleine is found alive. And I could't agree with him more.

Neck on block...he couldnt be clearer in what he believes happened
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Post  Oldartform Wed 25 Apr - 18:25

Sounds like Andy has been sucked in by Dave Edgar`s theory that Maddie is in a lair somewhere.

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Post  laurie Wed 25 Apr - 20:00

Edgar's Theory was that Madeleine was within a 5 mile Radius of PDL.Well if that was the case why did he not find her. Load of Bull
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Post  fedrules Wed 25 Apr - 21:24

laurie wrote:I will also believe the dogs findings until the day that there is proof that Madeleine is alive as i believe there is in all probability zero chance after almost five years that she is . I feel sorry for martin Grimes who has been well and truly told to shut it. Was this Brian Kennedy witness tampering again i wonder
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I'm pretty sure that the same is required of him in any case which has not yet reached the courts.
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