Would this be a logical assumption
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Would this be a logical assumption
It is difficult to know exactly what the policeman said in that panorama programme. Was he saying that he was 100% sure Madeleine was abducted. But I think he was saying that he believed she was still alive.
Now, logically if there is no credible trace of Madeleine's whereabouts after 3rd May, how can he say that. Unless he believes one or more of the sightings is credible. And where is the sense of urgency. Yes she is still with the abductor but it's taken us a year to trawl through all this paperwork and we're only a quarter of the way through. It makes absolutely no sense to me.
Now, logically if there is no credible trace of Madeleine's whereabouts after 3rd May, how can he say that. Unless he believes one or more of the sightings is credible. And where is the sense of urgency. Yes she is still with the abductor but it's taken us a year to trawl through all this paperwork and we're only a quarter of the way through. It makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Mary, you're the only one who is confused. When I read the transcript of Redwood on Daybreak you come to the conclusion that he actually says nothing.
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Carolina wrote:Mary, you're the only one who is confused. When I read the transcript of Redwood on Daybreak you come to the conclusion that he actually says nothing.
Correct - and that is how it should be
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And he needs to keep on saying nothing until he has the perpetrators (and those who obstruct justice on their behalf) nailed.
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On Daybreak he was asked "(Why) Do you believe she is still alive?....DI Redwood: "I believe she’s still alive because, at the beginning of this case…it’s a huge privilege for us at the Metropolitan Police to be part of this investigation…er, investigation review. Is that we came with a completely open mind"
This is his word for word answer!!!
This is his word for word answer!!!
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Well you try saying nothing during an Interview when all you really want to do is to blurt out "We're going to bang Healy, McCann and several others up"
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I'm none the wiser. I must just be thick!!! I would have been happy if he had said all scenarios are being thoroughly investigated and looked into. But I didn't think he exactly said that. He more or less said we must look for Madeleine and find her. But did he say too much about finding the abductor or gang of people. Not really. Still confused. Never mind!!!!!
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quite he should shut up, stop acting like a celeb, keep close to his chest anything he knows, stop parroting K and G McC, get off his arse and "develop the evidence", and tell K and G that a reconstruction is really needed in Praia da Luz with all present to analyse the timing. Didnt G McC say something once about how they wanted to generate evidence, well hes found his pal hasnt he. HasDCI forgotten that the film made by K and G had K's part ending up on the cutting room floor because they couldnt fit it it. Is there any other Police Investigation where the lead DCI appears on Daybreak to say absolutely nothing.
So the aim of the review is to find pieces of information to hand to the Portuguese, i think this colonial style of policing puts the UK in the wrong light, put that together with a previous Home Secretary suggesting that a diplomatic charm offensive is required (political pressure) and youve got the nub of it. they want to pass it back to the PJ, whats the point of spending £2m plus pound to announce that Madeleine is dead or alive. All because two parents wouldnt fork out money for a babysitter. jimo.
i really think he had read those statements, with all the ums, errs, and not answering the question, because thats exactly what DCI is doing. its catching. um
So the aim of the review is to find pieces of information to hand to the Portuguese, i think this colonial style of policing puts the UK in the wrong light, put that together with a previous Home Secretary suggesting that a diplomatic charm offensive is required (political pressure) and youve got the nub of it. they want to pass it back to the PJ, whats the point of spending £2m plus pound to announce that Madeleine is dead or alive. All because two parents wouldnt fork out money for a babysitter. jimo.
i really think he had read those statements, with all the ums, errs, and not answering the question, because thats exactly what DCI is doing. its catching. um
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I would like to ask redwood....have you actually asked the pj to reopen the case?
And....you say you believe she is alive ....now either you are a very thick person and that worries me a lot as you are supposedly a police officer and if you say that after reading the files.....then how many people are languishing in our jails that are totally innocent and how many people are walking our streets that are wholly guilty if there are more people like you working in the force or....you believe she is alive because you think the mccanns are reposponsible for the 'abduction' hence the efit...it doesn't explain away the dogs I know that but something's not quite right with what you are saying...
And....you say you believe she is alive ....now either you are a very thick person and that worries me a lot as you are supposedly a police officer and if you say that after reading the files.....then how many people are languishing in our jails that are totally innocent and how many people are walking our streets that are wholly guilty if there are more people like you working in the force or....you believe she is alive because you think the mccanns are reposponsible for the 'abduction' hence the efit...it doesn't explain away the dogs I know that but something's not quite right with what you are saying...
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Don forget the smirk tanzi.....redwood is doing that too now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgjd0S7QSLE
Have a look at this lol.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgjd0S7QSLE
Have a look at this lol.....
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A comment in the French press yesterday sums it up for me:
"and what do the English do? They tell journalists. Well done. Let's think.... you believe a missing little girl is alive somewhere, you have 195 leads, and what do you do.....you make a statement to the press. That looks more like PR, a pretence of working
"and what do the English do? They tell journalists. Well done. Let's think.... you believe a missing little girl is alive somewhere, you have 195 leads, and what do you do.....you make a statement to the press. That looks more like PR, a pretence of working
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tanszi wrote:
i really think he had read those statements, with all the ums, errs, and not answering the question, because thats exactly what DCI is doing. its catching. um
The 'you knows' started during the Daybreak interview
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He can't say he believes she is dead!
look what happens to people who say that, he would be off the case or sued.
look what happens to people who say that, he would be off the case or sued.
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devonmum wrote:He can't say he believes she is dead!
look what happens to people who say that, he would be off the case or sued.
He can't say anything at all OF ANY VALUE about what is going on and what their true priorities and findings are.
And he didn't.
And he continues to say nothing.
And he will continue to say nothing.
For now.
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jd16 wrote:On Daybreak he was asked "(Why) Do you believe she is still alive?....DI Redwood: "I believe she’s still alive because, at the beginning of this case…it’s a huge privilege for us at the Metropolitan Police to be part of this investigation…er, investigation review. Is that we came with a completely open mind"
This is his word for word answer!!!
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Claudia79 wrote:jd16 wrote:On Daybreak he was asked "(Why) Do you believe she is still alive?....DI Redwood: "I believe she’s still alive because, at the beginning of this case…it’s a huge privilege for us at the Metropolitan Police to be part of this investigation…er, investigation review. Is that we came with a completely open mind"
This is his word for word answer!!!
It's an invasion of the Stepford Police!
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Claudia79 wrote:jd16 wrote:On Daybreak he was asked "(Why) Do you believe she is still alive?....DI Redwood: "I believe she’s still alive because, at the beginning of this case…it’s a huge privilege for us at the Metropolitan Police to be part of this investigation…er, investigation review. Is that we came with a completely open mind"
This is his word for word answer!!!
Claudia - he speaks in riddles just like the Mc's and the Tapas crew. But what he has said this week has been of great value to the Mc's PR campaign giving more opportunities to basjh Portugal, the PJ and Amaral. He should have said nothing in my view.
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AnnaEsse wrote:Claudia79 wrote:jd16 wrote:On Daybreak he was asked "(Why) Do you believe she is still alive?....DI Redwood: "I believe she’s still alive because, at the beginning of this case…it’s a huge privilege for us at the Metropolitan Police to be part of this investigation…er, investigation review. Is that we came with a completely open mind"
This is his word for word answer!!!
It's an invasion of the Stepford Police!
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NoStone wrote:Claudia79 wrote:jd16 wrote:On Daybreak he was asked "(Why) Do you believe she is still alive?....DI Redwood: "I believe she’s still alive because, at the beginning of this case…it’s a huge privilege for us at the Metropolitan Police to be part of this investigation…er, investigation review. Is that we came with a completely open mind"
This is his word for word answer!!!
Claudia - he speaks in riddles just like the Mc's and the Tapas crew. But what he has said this week has been of great value to the Mc's PR campaign giving more opportunities to basjh Portugal, the PJ and Amaral. He should have said nothing in my view.
Sometimes the difference between keeping silent and speaking is that speaking may clarify some doubts. In this case, if Redwood had kept silent we would still be wondering whether he was stupid or not.
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Claudia79 wrote:NoStone wrote:Claudia79 wrote:jd16 wrote:On Daybreak he was asked "(Why) Do you believe she is still alive?....DI Redwood: "I believe she’s still alive because, at the beginning of this case…it’s a huge privilege for us at the Metropolitan Police to be part of this investigation…er, investigation review. Is that we came with a completely open mind"
This is his word for word answer!!!
Claudia - he speaks in riddles just like the Mc's and the Tapas crew. But what he has said this week has been of great value to the Mc's PR campaign giving more opportunities to basjh Portugal, the PJ and Amaral. He should have said nothing in my view.
Sometimes the difference between keeping silent and speaking is that speaking may clarify some doubts. In this case, if Redwood had kept silent we would still be wondering whether he was stupid or not.
Claudia!!!
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NoStone wrote:Claudia79 wrote:NoStone wrote:Claudia79 wrote:jd16 wrote:On Daybreak he was asked "(Why) Do you believe she is still alive?....DI Redwood: "I believe she’s still alive because, at the beginning of this case…it’s a huge privilege for us at the Metropolitan Police to be part of this investigation…er, investigation review. Is that we came with a completely open mind"
This is his word for word answer!!!
Claudia - he speaks in riddles just like the Mc's and the Tapas crew. But what he has said this week has been of great value to the Mc's PR campaign giving more opportunities to basjh Portugal, the PJ and Amaral. He should have said nothing in my view.
Sometimes the difference between keeping silent and speaking is that speaking may clarify some doubts. In this case, if Redwood had kept silent we would still be wondering whether he was stupid or not.
Claudia!!!
There should be a thread here entitled 'Best quote of the week'... and that one would win hands down!
Brilliant.
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Best quote off the week........'we are working on the basis off two possibilities here: one is that Madeleine is Still alive and the second, that she is sadly dead'. and it took 2m for redwood to figure that one out!!!
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The point is, he has little option to give an ahem "balanced" view like that.
What else could he say without breaching confidence and possibly prejudicing theinvestigation review?
Caught between a rock and a hard place, I think he served us well.
What else could he say without breaching confidence and possibly prejudicing the
Caught between a rock and a hard place, I think he served us well.
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kitti wrote:Best quote off the week........'we are working on the basis off two possibilities here: one is that Madeleine is Still alive and the second, that she is sadly dead'. and it took 2m for redwood to figure that one out!!!
Ha Ha! Kitti
If the possibility of her being aliive is based on the forensic analysis of the timeline indicating an opportunity that she had been 'taken' - then on what grounds are they basing the possibility that she is dead on exactly?? Hmm??
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kitti wrote:Best quote off the week........'we are working on the basis off two possibilities here: one is that Madeleine is Still alive and the second, that she is sadly dead'. and it took 2m for redwood to figure that one out!!!
I could say the same thing about my cat who disappeared in 1996 since I haven't seen hide nor hair of him since!
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