Cost of Obamacare will hit middle class families most

As I've posted before, how Obama has avoided the fate of the Kennedys must speak volumes on the value for money of his security teams. Like politicians worldwide, he lies as easily as most normal people breath.

malena stool wrote:As I've posted before, how Obama has avoided the fate of the Kennedys must speak volumes on the value for money of his security teams. Like politicians worldwide, he lies as easily as most normal people breath.

It's not a tax, Obama chanted repeatedly! Supreme Court says it's a tax and therefore acceptable! One effect, among many, of this Health Care is that small businesses will suffer. They are now supposed to pay for health insurance for all employees, which could amount to a tidy sum. So, they will be cutting staff and not replacing those who leave.

The trouble with bringing any tax into the system is once up and running and producing revenue, there is little chance of it being removed. We know from our own overtaxed condition, that the people who pay the most are the ones who can afford it least.

malena stool wrote:The trouble with bringing any tax into the system is once up and running and producing revenue, there is little chance of it being removed. We know from our own overtaxed condition, that the people who pay the most are the ones who can afford it least.

Like big companies that pay not one penny in income tax and high earners who are able to exploit tax loopholes, but low paid people on PAYE have no chance to escape paying every penny mandated by law.

Hi Anna, just received this email from rels in the states. How true it is I don't know, but it makes scary reading as it could quite feasibly happen here once the predicted privatisation of the NHS occurrs.

This is some scary stuff! Especially now that the Supreme Court has upheld this Obamacare piece of garbage.

THIS IS ANOTHER TEST ABOUT THE OBAMA CARE THAT WE KNOW. HE IS A DICTATOR AND TRIES TO PLAY GOD TO DETERMINE WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES. GET RID OF OBAMA AND HIS SOCIALIST WAYS!!!!

EMAIL FROM A REGISTERED NURSE = PLEASE READ ASAP!!!

This is information that "Could" effect most of us soon .....

Thought you may find it interesting. I know many of you are caring for elderly parents; however, younger folks may wish to undo some of the things Obama is striving to make into law that could affect you in your older years too.
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WELL ISN'T THIS SOME SPECIAL NEWS REGARDING GRANDMA AND PAPA ??
I had one of the most troubling, most disturbing conversations ever with Dr. Suzanne Allen, head of emergency services at the Johnson City Medical Center in Tennessee. We were discussing the "future" and I asked her had she seen any affects of ObamaCare in her work?
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"Oh, yes. We are seeing cutbacks throughout the services we provide. For example, we are now having to deal with patients who would normally receive dialysis but can no longer be accepted. In the past, there was always automatic approval under Medicare for anyone who needed dialysis -- not anymore." So, what will be their outcome? "They will die soon without dialysis," she stated.
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What about other services? She indicated as of 2013 (after the election), no one over 75 will be given major medical procedures unless approved by locally administered Ethics Panels . These Panels will determine whether a patient receives medical treatment or not. While details on specific operating procedures and schedules, Dr. Allen points out that most life-threatening emergencies do not occur during normal hospital business hours, and if there are emergencies that depend to be resolve within minutes or just few hours, the likelihood of getting these Panels approval in time to save a life are going to be very challenging and difficult, if not impossible she said.
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This applies to major operations such as receiving stents, bypass surgery, kidney operations, or treating an aneurysm that would be normally covered under Medicare today. In other words, if you needed a life-saving operation, Medicare will not provide coverage anymore after 2013 if you are 75 or over. When in 2013? "We haven't been given a specific date -- could be in January or July.... but it's after the election."
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This is shocking to any of us who will be 75 this year. Her advice -- get healthy and stay healthy. We do not know the specifics of the actual implementation of the full ObamaCare policies and procedures -- "they haven't filtered down to the local level yet. But we are already seeing severe cuts in what we provide to the elderly -- we refused dialysis to an individual who was 78 just the other day....we refused to give stents to a gentleman who was in his late 80s." Every day, she said, we are seeing these cutbacks aimed at reducing care across the board for anyone who is over 75.
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We can only hope that ObamaCare will be overturned by the Supreme Court-- otherwise, this is a death sentence to those who are over 75.... perhaps you should pass this on to your friends who are thinking of voting for Obama this year.
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Regardless if you have private health care coverage now (I have Aetna Medicare Part B) -- it will no longer apply after 2013 if the Ethics Panels disapproves of a procedure that may save your life.
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Scary, scary, scary. Think about this? You? Your parents? Your loved ones?
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Didn't know about it? Of course, not. As Nancy Pelosi said...."well, if you want to know what's in the bill, you'll have to read it....." After it was passed.
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This is a graphic reminder of the need to stay healthy. Get your plot now at Forest Lawn....while they last. Is this a death sentence to those of us who will reach 75?...... Yes!

Please do pass this along to those in your address book.

malena stool wrote:Hi Anna, just received this email from rels in the states. How true it is I don't know, but it makes scary reading as it could quite feasibly happen here once the predicted privatisation of the NHS occurrs.

This is some scary stuff! Especially now that the Supreme Court has upheld this Obamacare piece of garbage.

THIS IS ANOTHER TEST ABOUT THE OBAMA CARE THAT WE KNOW. HE IS A DICTATOR AND TRIES TO PLAY GOD TO DETERMINE WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES. GET RID OF OBAMA AND HIS SOCIALIST WAYS!!!!

EMAIL FROM A REGISTERED NURSE = PLEASE READ ASAP!!!

This is information that "Could" effect most of us soon .....

Thought you may find it interesting. I know many of you are caring for elderly parents; however, younger folks may wish to undo some of the things Obama is striving to make into law that could affect you in your older years too.
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WELL ISN'T THIS SOME SPECIAL NEWS REGARDING GRANDMA AND PAPA ??
I had one of the most troubling, most disturbing conversations ever with Dr. Suzanne Allen, head of emergency services at the Johnson City Medical Center in Tennessee. We were discussing the "future" and I asked her had she seen any affects of ObamaCare in her work?
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"Oh, yes. We are seeing cutbacks throughout the services we provide. For example, we are now having to deal with patients who would normally receive dialysis but can no longer be accepted. In the past, there was always automatic approval under Medicare for anyone who needed dialysis -- not anymore." So, what will be their outcome? "They will die soon without dialysis," she stated.
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What about other services? She indicated as of 2013 (after the election), no one over 75 will be given major medical procedures unless approved by locally administered Ethics Panels . These Panels will determine whether a patient receives medical treatment or not. While details on specific operating procedures and schedules, Dr. Allen points out that most life-threatening emergencies do not occur during normal hospital business hours, and if there are emergencies that depend to be resolve within minutes or just few hours, the likelihood of getting these Panels approval in time to save a life are going to be very challenging and difficult, if not impossible she said.
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This applies to major operations such as receiving stents, bypass surgery, kidney operations, or treating an aneurysm that would be normally covered under Medicare today. In other words, if you needed a life-saving operation, Medicare will not provide coverage anymore after 2013 if you are 75 or over. When in 2013? "We haven't been given a specific date -- could be in January or July.... but it's after the election."
�
This is shocking to any of us who will be 75 this year. Her advice -- get healthy and stay healthy. We do not know the specifics of the actual implementation of the full ObamaCare policies and procedures -- "they haven't filtered down to the local level yet. But we are already seeing severe cuts in what we provide to the elderly -- we refused dialysis to an individual who was 78 just the other day....we refused to give stents to a gentleman who was in his late 80s." Every day, she said, we are seeing these cutbacks aimed at reducing care across the board for anyone who is over 75.
�
We can only hope that ObamaCare will be overturned by the Supreme Court-- otherwise, this is a death sentence to those who are over 75.... perhaps you should pass this on to your friends who are thinking of voting for Obama this year.
�
Regardless if you have private health care coverage now (I have Aetna Medicare Part B) -- it will no longer apply after 2013 if the Ethics Panels disapproves of a procedure that may save your life.
�
Scary, scary, scary. Think about this? You? Your parents? Your loved ones?
�
Didn't know about it? Of course, not. As Nancy Pelosi said...."well, if you want to know what's in the bill, you'll have to read it....." After it was passed.
�
This is a graphic reminder of the need to stay healthy. Get your plot now at Forest Lawn....while they last. Is this a death sentence to those of us who will reach 75?...... Yes!

Please do pass this along to those in your address book.

Thanks malena. They're calling this 'socialized medicine,' but if people in this country were told that they had to buy health insurance from private companies, we'd call that 'going private.'

Obamacare will impose a huge financial burden on families and on employers. As for those panels for the over 75s, they're being called 'death panels,' because they will decide who gets treatment and who doesn't. It's quite shocking in its reach and power and thousands of extra staff are being taken on by IRS to make sure no one escapes paying the penalties.