Gerry did not want to be influenced by News in the Press

Monday, 11 June 2012Gerry Mccann: “(...) it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds."



"When asked if on any occasion Madeleine was injured, he (Gerry Mccann) says that he has no comments. When questioned, he said that he is the usual driver of the car. In addition to the deponent, the car was also driven by his wife Kate, his sister in law Sandy, and a cousin of Kate’s by the name of Michael."
"When asked if he has anything to add, he said that he has not seen any proof that his daughter Madeleine is dead, and therefore he will continue to search for her in the hope she is alive. He knows nothing more than what has been said."
"The defense lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he (Gerry Mccann) saidit was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds.He says that he doesn’t know if infact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."


PJ Files:
- Original PJ files (Portuguese)
- English translation of


Paulo Reis

Panda wrote:

Monday, 11 June 2012Gerry Mccann: “(...) it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds."



"When asked if on any occasion Madeleine was injured, he (Gerry Mccann) says that he has no comments. When questioned, he said that he is the usual driver of the car. In addition to the deponent, the car was also driven by his wife Kate, his sister in law Sandy, and a cousin of Kate’s by the name of Michael."
"When asked if he has anything to add, he said that he has not seen any proof that his daughter Madeleine is dead, and therefore he will continue to search for her in the hope she is alive. He knows nothing more than what has been said."
"The defense lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he (Gerry Mccann) saidit was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds.He says that he doesn’t know if infact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."


PJ Files:
- Original PJ files (Portuguese)
- English translation of


Paulo Reis

Sandy is his BROTHER in law.

Keela wrote:

Panda wrote:

Monday, 11 June 2012Gerry Mccann: “(...) it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds."



"When asked if on any occasion Madeleine was injured, he (Gerry Mccann) says that he has no comments. When questioned, he said that he is the usual driver of the car. In addition to the deponent, the car was also driven by his wife Kate, his sister in law Sandy, and a cousin of Kate’s by the name of Michael."
"When asked if he has anything to add, he said that he has not seen any proof that his daughter Madeleine is dead, and therefore he will continue to search for her in the hope she is alive. He knows nothing more than what has been said."
"The defense lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he (Gerry Mccann) saidit was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds.He says that he doesn’t know if infact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."









































PJ Files:
- Original PJ files (Portuguese)
- English translation of


Paulo Reis

Sandy is his BROTHER in law.

Hi Keela ,

Thanks, this is the bit that interested me, strange remark I thought.

"he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."

what do you make of that?

Essentially Gerry is saying that he doesn,t want to think of the blood found in 5a because it suggests Madeleine is dead. Yet wasn't he the one who
ridiculed the Dogs findings ? Probably when he suggested Sandra Filgueras "ask the dogs", he knew the Blood could not be proved to be Madeleine's.

It's Gerryspeak to suggest that the finding of blood in the apartment was simply a wild newspaper assertation and therefore not true. Ditto the dogs etc. all newspaper stories and not worth the paper they're written on.

Yes, I know, but this is from the PJ files where he is attending an interview. The PJ must have asked him what he thought of the Dog's findings so he
couldn't very well dispute this at the time so opted for the "I don't want to think about it". You would know if your Daughter had a nosebleed.

As two educated,professional and experienced
people why do they insist beyond all probable and
realistic factors that their child must be alive?
Everything that points towards harm or death
is discounted or gagged.I can understand that
hope can be a valid stand, but surely there comes
a time when hope fades, and it is replaced by a
more realistic option. After 5 years, with no contact
with culprits, no meaningful sightings, no police or
private detective information on where-abouts or
trace. It must dawn on them that nobody has her.
Furthermore, to compound this, there is a telling
absence of any positive outcome from massive
media campaign across Europe and beyond.
So why has the McCann's hope not been blunted?
Why insist that Madeleine must be alive in face
of compelling forensic evidence to the contrary?
Why keep this hope when time, effort, money
and incriminating evidence altogether should at
least pose a more realistic approach?

or get invited here there and everywhere, or given PR non-jobs, in the likely circumstances you rightly describe. IMHO.

T4two wrote:It's Gerryspeak to suggest that the finding of blood in the apartment was simply a wild newspaper assertation and therefore not true. Ditto the dogs etc. all newspaper stories and not worth the paper they're written on.

If 5a had been thoroughly cleaned with bleach, that would have degraded any blood found. It seems that this must have been the case. Gerry would know that standard bleach will degrade blood so that the DNA will be compromised.
Perhaps he was thinking that he would remember a blood nose if there was enough evidence the blood was Maddie's - if not, then he could deny her having a nosebleed.
It's stupid, but it seems to be the McCann school of logic.

marxman wrote:As two educated,professional and experienced
people why do they insist beyond all probable and
realistic factors that their child must be alive?
Everything that points towards harm or death
is discounted or gagged.I can understand that
hope can be a valid stand, but surely there comes
a time when hope fades, and it is replaced by a
more realistic option. After 5 years, with no contact
with culprits, no meaningful sightings, no police or
private detective information on where-abouts or
trace. It must dawn on them that nobody has her.
Furthermore, to compound this, there is a telling
absence of any positive outcome from massive
media campaign across Europe and beyond.
So why has the McCann's hope not been blunted?
Why insist that Madeleine must be alive in face
of compelling forensic evidence to the contrary?
Why keep this hope when time, effort, money
and incriminating evidence altogether should at
least pose a more realistic approach?

1. Keeping up the pretence of searching for a live child is a way of ignoring the original Portuguese/British investigation which is the basis for Amaral's and the PJ's thesis that the child died in the apartment and the logical conclusion that the parents must have been involved in some way.
2. The first 'product' was the missing child herself. That morphed into the 'search' for the missing child. If the 'product' is a fictitious search for a small child, surely admitting that the child is probably dead would kill the product?
3. Of course since the 'product' is in the process of morphing again, this time into the selfless and courageous mother who has dedicated her life to the cause of finding other missing people, perhaps one day in the foreseeable future we'll be introduced to the idea that the child is probably dead - especially if keeping up the search starts to interfere with mother courage's other, more lucrative pursuits.

tigger wrote:

T4two wrote:It's Gerryspeak to suggest that the finding of blood in the apartment was simply a wild newspaper assertation and therefore not true. Ditto the dogs etc. all newspaper stories and not worth the paper they're written on.

If 5a had been thoroughly cleaned with bleach, that would have degraded any blood found. It seems that this must have been the case. Gerry would know that standard bleach will degrade blood so that the DNA will be compromised.
Perhaps he was thinking that he would remember a blood nose if there was enough evidence the blood was Maddie's - if not, then he could deny her having a nosebleed.
It's stupid, but it seems to be the McCann school of logic.

Of course - we don't have to keep to only one reason for what is said - there can be several. Yes, I agree and of course in order to plant the story of the nose bleeds he'd have to give an explanation for knowing that blood had been found in the apartment in the first place - which would be from the newspapers. I do find the lawyer's way of drawing attention to this a bit primitive though.

T4two wrote:

marxman wrote:As two educated,professional and experienced
people why do they insist beyond all probable and
realistic factors that their child must be alive?
Everything that points towards harm or death
is discounted or gagged.I can understand that
hope can be a valid stand, but surely there comes
a time when hope fades, and it is replaced by a
more realistic option. After 5 years, with no contact
with culprits, no meaningful sightings, no police or
private detective information on where-abouts or
trace. It must dawn on them that nobody has her.
Furthermore, to compound this, there is a telling
absence of any positive outcome from massive
media campaign across Europe and beyond.
So why has the McCann's hope not been blunted?
Why insist that Madeleine must be alive in face
of compelling forensic evidence to the contrary?
Why keep this hope when time, effort, money
and incriminating evidence altogether should at
least pose a more realistic approach?

1. Keeping up the pretence of searching for a live child is a way of ignoring the original Portuguese/British investigation which is the basis for Amaral's and the PJ's thesis that the child died in the apartment and the logical conclusion that the parents must have been involved in some way.
2. The first 'product' was the missing child herself. That morphed into the 'search' for the missing child. If the 'product' is a fictitious search for a small child, surely admitting that the child is probably dead would kill the product?
3. Of course since the 'product' is in the process of morphing again, this time into the selfless and courageous mother who has dedicated her life to the cause of finding other missing people, perhaps one day in the foreseeable future we'll be introduced to the idea that the child is probably dead - especially if keeping up the search starts to interfere with mother courage's other, more lucrative pursuits.

Thankyou T4Two, I understand what you are saying,
but surely they can't sustain a 'product' which is no
longer fit for purpose? Could they not yield to a notion
that their child may have came to harm in 5a and a
culprit covered his/her tracks?
They have undoubtedly milked a live missing person
for all it's worth, which must make family and friends
question their steadfast resolve to find a live child.
Their position, without even contemplating any other
thesis, is in my view ridiculous and guilt laden.

Panda wrote:

Monday, 11 June 2012Gerry Mccann: “(...) it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds."



"When asked if on any occasion Madeleine was injured, he (Gerry Mccann) says that he has no comments. When questioned, he said that he is the usual driver of the car. In addition to the deponent, the car was also driven by his wife Kate, his sister in law Sandy, and a cousin of Kate’s by the name of Michael."
"When asked if he has anything to add, he said that he has not seen any proof that his daughter Madeleine is dead, and therefore he will continue to search for her in the hope she is alive. He knows nothing more than what has been said."
"The defense lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he (Gerry Mccann) saidit was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds.He says that he doesn’t know if infact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."


PJ Files:
- Original PJ files (Portuguese)
- English translation of


Paulo Reis

Interesting, considering that the CSI Blood Dog Keela & EVRD were deployed between the 1st - 8th of August 2007 and this statement by Gerry McCann was made in JUNE, though it says 2012, which I'm sure is wrong.



Human blood search dog (C.S.I. dog).

OPERATION TASK CANINE DEPLOYMENTS 1-8 AUGUST 2007

On the instruction of The PJ Director, The Portuguese police kept all search
records concerning the deployment of the search dogs. All dog searches were
recorded by video.

The following searches were conducted:


Five apartments at a complex in Praia Da Luz.
Mr. Murat's property at Pria Da Luz.
Mr. McCann's Villa at Pria Da Luz ( Present occupancy).
Articles of clothing from Mr. McCann's residence.
Western beach Pria da Luz.
Eastern Beach Pria Da Luz.
10 Vehicles screened at Portimao.
CANINE SEARCHES AT FIVE APARTMENTS AT PRIA DA LUZ.

All five apartments were searched using the EVRD. The only alert indications
were at apartment 5a, the reported scene.

ELI wrote:

Panda wrote:

Monday, 11 June 2012Gerry Mccann: “(...) it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds."



"When asked if on any occasion Madeleine was injured, he (Gerry Mccann) says that he has no comments. When questioned, he said that he is the usual driver of the car. In addition to the deponent, the car was also driven by his wife Kate, his sister in law Sandy, and a cousin of Kate’s by the name of Michael."
"When asked if he has anything to add, he said that he has not seen any proof that his daughter Madeleine is dead, and therefore he will continue to search for her in the hope she is alive. He knows nothing more than what has been said."
"The defense lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he (Gerry Mccann) saidit was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds.He says that he doesn’t know if infact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."


PJ Files:
- Original PJ files (Portuguese)
- English translation of


Paulo Reis

Interesting, considering that the CSI Blood Dog Keela & EVRD were deployed between the 1st - 8th of August 2007 and this statement by Gerry McCann was made in JUNE, though it says 2012, which I'm sure is wrong.



Human blood search dog (C.S.I. dog).

OPERATION TASK CANINE DEPLOYMENTS 1-8 AUGUST 2007

On the instruction of The PJ Director, The Portuguese police kept all search
records concerning the deployment of the search dogs. All dog searches were
recorded by video.

The following searches were conducted:


Five apartments at a complex in Praia Da Luz.
Mr. Murat's property at Pria Da Luz.
Mr. McCann's Villa at Pria Da Luz ( Present occupancy).
Articles of clothing from Mr. McCann's residence.
Western beach Pria da Luz.
Eastern Beach Pria Da Luz.
10 Vehicles screened at Portimao.
CANINE SEARCHES AT FIVE APARTMENTS AT PRIA DA LUZ.

All five apartments were searched using the EVRD. The only alert indications
were at apartment 5a, the reported scene.

Hi Eli, I think the 2012 is the date P. Reis used the PR article on his Blog. When Gerry McCann told Sandra Figueras to "ask the dogs", he obviously knew
the evidence in 5a was inconclusive. To say at the PJ interview that he did not know whether Madeleine had a nose bleed shows how little he saw of her during the week.

If he didn't want to be influenced by news in the press, it sounds as if he was influenced by the "defense lawyer". After Gerry said he had no comment on whether Madeleine was injured, it was his defense lawyer who requested Gerry be asked "again" if Madeleine bled. It was then that Gerry replied that it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. Sounds to me like the defense lawyer had a whispered conversation with Gerry and advised him to cover his behind about the blood.

Easy to explain from a pro...no one in the other apartments secreted blood/semen/urine/faeces/hairs/skin/nails & neither did anyone in the other apartments devour pork/seabass/shrimp or any other rotting meat
maybe the dogs are so unreliable that all the other tapas apartments did have a scent but the dogs are so inept that they failed to alert there

Funny how the Mccanns have actually told us they rate the dogs skills by their exscuses of nosebleeds & cadaver patients...

Its a strange thing to say No Comment when asked if your daughter was injured! What kind of
reply is that!

I think the Mccanns have tied themselves up in knots so many times through not telling the truth
they forget what they have said already half the time as evidenced by their own words.

interested wrote:If he didn't want to be influenced by news in the press, it sounds as if he was influenced by the "defense lawyer". After Gerry said he had no comment on whether Madeleine was injured, it was his defense lawyer who requested Gerry be asked "again" if Madeleine bled. It was then that Gerry replied that it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. Sounds to me like the defense lawyer had a whispered conversation with Gerry and advised him to cover his behind about the blood.

Hi interested, would the Lawyer have been Abreu? I ask because at one time both McCanns had him as their Lawyer, but Alves? is now representing
one or both and I wondered why they changed.

Panda wrote:

ELI wrote:

Panda wrote:

Monday, 11 June 2012Gerry Mccann: “(...) it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds."



"When asked if on any occasion Madeleine was injured, he (Gerry Mccann) says that he has no comments. When questioned, he said that he is the usual driver of the car. In addition to the deponent, the car was also driven by his wife Kate, his sister in law Sandy, and a cousin of Kate’s by the name of Michael."
"When asked if he has anything to add, he said that he has not seen any proof that his daughter Madeleine is dead, and therefore he will continue to search for her in the hope she is alive. He knows nothing more than what has been said."
"The defense lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he (Gerry Mccann) saidit was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds.He says that he doesn’t know if infact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."


PJ Files:
- Original PJ files (Portuguese)
- English translation of


Paulo Reis

Interesting, considering that the CSI Blood Dog Keela & EVRD were deployed between the 1st - 8th of August 2007 and this statement by Gerry McCann was made in JUNE, though it says 2012, which I'm sure is wrong.



Human blood search dog (C.S.I. dog).

OPERATION TASK CANINE DEPLOYMENTS 1-8 AUGUST 2007

On the instruction of The PJ Director, The Portuguese police kept all search
records concerning the deployment of the search dogs. All dog searches were
recorded by video.

The following searches were conducted:


Five apartments at a complex in Praia Da Luz.
Mr. Murat's property at Pria Da Luz.
Mr. McCann's Villa at Pria Da Luz ( Present occupancy).
Articles of clothing from Mr. McCann's residence.
Western beach Pria da Luz.
Eastern Beach Pria Da Luz.
10 Vehicles screened at Portimao.
CANINE SEARCHES AT FIVE APARTMENTS AT PRIA DA LUZ.

All five apartments were searched using the EVRD. The only alert indications
were at apartment 5a, the reported scene.

Hi Eli, I think the 2012 is the date P. Reis used the PR article on his Blog. When Gerry McCann told Sandra Figueras to "ask the dogs", he obviously knew
the evidence in 5a was inconclusive. To say at the PJ interview that he did not know whether Madeleine had a nose bleed shows how little he saw of her during the week.

Hi Panda , yes I wondered if that was the case, still Gerry did make reference whatever date this statement was made, to - " the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."

matthew wrote:Easy to explain from a pro...no one in the other apartments secreted blood/semen/urine/faeces/hairs/skin/nails & neither did anyone in the other apartments devour pork/seabass/shrimp or any other rotting meat
maybe the dogs are so unreliable that all the other tapas apartments did have a scent but the dogs are so inept that they failed to alert there

Funny how the Mccanns have actually told us they rate the dogs skills by their exscuses of nosebleeds & cadaver patients...

“ Departing from the principle that ALL confirmed DNA components within the scope of this result originated from a single source, then these pointed to corresponding components in the profile of Madeleine McCann “

In order for anyone to ‘match’ an evidentiary sample to a particular persons profile sample that person’s unique identifying genetic markers / components have to be present in that sample and correspond with the profile sample

ELI wrote:

Panda wrote:

ELI wrote:

Panda wrote:

Monday, 11 June 2012Gerry Mccann: “(...) it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds."



"When asked if on any occasion Madeleine was injured, he (Gerry Mccann) says that he has no comments. When questioned, he said that he is the usual driver of the car. In addition to the deponent, the car was also driven by his wife Kate, his sister in law Sandy, and a cousin of Kate’s by the name of Michael."
"When asked if he has anything to add, he said that he has not seen any proof that his daughter Madeleine is dead, and therefore he will continue to search for her in the hope she is alive. He knows nothing more than what has been said."
"The defense lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he (Gerry Mccann) saidit was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds.He says that he doesn’t know if infact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."


PJ Files:
- Original PJ files (Portuguese)
- English translation of


Paulo Reis

Interesting, considering that the CSI Blood Dog Keela & EVRD were deployed between the 1st - 8th of August 2007 and this statement by Gerry McCann was made in JUNE, though it says 2012, which I'm sure is wrong.



Human blood search dog (C.S.I. dog).

OPERATION TASK CANINE DEPLOYMENTS 1-8 AUGUST 2007

On the instruction of The PJ Director, The Portuguese police kept all search
records concerning the deployment of the search dogs. All dog searches were
recorded by video.

The following searches were conducted:


Five apartments at a complex in Praia Da Luz.
Mr. Murat's property at Pria Da Luz.
Mr. McCann's Villa at Pria Da Luz ( Present occupancy).
Articles of clothing from Mr. McCann's residence.
Western beach Pria da Luz.
Eastern Beach Pria Da Luz.
10 Vehicles screened at Portimao.
CANINE SEARCHES AT FIVE APARTMENTS AT PRIA DA LUZ.

All five apartments were searched using the EVRD. The only alert indications
were at apartment 5a, the reported scene.

Hi Eli, I think the 2012 is the date P. Reis used the PR article on his Blog. When Gerry McCann told Sandra Figueras to "ask the dogs", he obviously knew
the evidence in 5a was inconclusive. To say at the PJ interview that he did not know whether Madeleine had a nose bleed shows how little he saw of her during the week.

Hi Panda , yes I wondered if that was the case, still Gerry did make reference whatever date this statement was made, to - " the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."

Yes, that's what struck me .....no "that's ludicrous" just an acceptance that the blood could have been Madeleine's.

[quote="Panda"][quote="ELI"]

Panda wrote:

ELI wrote:

Panda wrote:


Hi Eli, I think the 2012 is the date P. Reis used the PR article on his Blog. When Gerry McCann told Sandra Figueras to "ask the dogs", he obviously knew
the evidence in 5a was inconclusive. To say at the PJ interview that he did not know whether Madeleine had a nose bleed shows how little he saw of her during the week.

Hi Panda , yes I wondered if that was the case, still Gerry did make reference whatever date this statement was made, to - " the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."

Yes, that's what struck me .....no "that's ludicrous" just an acceptance that the blood could have been Madeleine's.

Indeed and I wonder when he made this statement, was it before or after the canine searches ?

cherry1 wrote:Its a strange thing to say No Comment when asked if your daughter was injured! What kind of
reply is that!

I think the Mccanns have tied themselves up in knots so many times through not telling the truth
they forget what they have said already half the time as evidenced by their own words.

One from someone that has something to hide cherry1

[quote="ELI"][quote="Panda"]

ELI wrote:

Panda wrote:

ELI wrote:

Hi Panda , yes I wondered if that was the case, still Gerry did make reference whatever date this statement was made, to - " the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared."

Yes, that's what struck me .....no "that's ludicrous" just an acceptance that the blood could have been Madeleine's.

Indeed and I wonder when he made this statement, was it before or after the canine searches ?

I think you will find it was before the dogs arrived in September, the Portugese were also using their Forensics Dept. The FSS proved wholly inept and
has since been sold. The PJ were apparently fed up with the time it took the FSS to analyze samples and tested their theory. Samples from the same source were sent to the FSS and the Portugese Forensics on the same day. The Portugese returned the samples with their report within days, FSS took weeks and later destroyed the samples because they said they were not asked to return them.