It woz the weirdo wot dunnit!

Panda:

"No, KM can't jeanmonroe. When the case was shelved the McCanns had two months to ask for it to be reopened but they did not apply."
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Which begs the obvious question:

Why would the inconsolable, distraught, heartbroken parents of a missing child NOT apply to have the case 'unshelved' and re-opened?

jeanmonroe wrote:Panda:

"No, KM can't jeanmonroe. When the case was shelved the McCanns had two months to ask for it to be reopened but they did not apply."
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Which begs the obvious question:

Why would the inconsolable, distraught, heartbroken parents of a missing child NOT apply to have the case 'unshelved' and re-opened?

It's simple, according to Goncalo Amaral, the McCanns asked for the case to be closed, when they were arguidos, so they're never going to ask for it to be reopened.

I wonder why the McCanns wish that the case was closed, granted. More to the point, why were they allowed to make this request when they were arguidos? Was the McCanns arguido status a paper exercise? I suspect it was, if it wasn't, why were the McCanns passports returned to them and why were they given a police escort to the Algarve airport?

The McCanns flew out of the Algarve, the day after they were made arguidos. Who arranged the McCanns flights at such short notice?

The McCanns have provided many signs, which show they are more involved with Madeleine's disappearance than neglect, yet they were given permission to leave Portugal.

There was no evidence to show that Robert Murat was involved with Madeleine's disappearance, yet he had to remain in Portugal and adhere to the terms of his arguido status.

From what I've read of this case, Robert Murat, has had more mud slung at him than the McCanns.

kathybelle wrote:

jeanmonroe wrote:Panda:

"No, KM can't jeanmonroe. When the case was shelved the McCanns had two months to ask for it to be reopened but they did not apply."
___________________________________________

Which begs the obvious question:

Why would the inconsolable, distraught, heartbroken parents of a missing child NOT apply to have the case 'unshelved' and re-opened?

It's simple, according to Goncalo Amaral, the McCanns asked for the case to be closed, when they were arguidos, so they're never going to ask for it to be reopened.

I wonder why the McCanns wish that the case was closed, granted. More to the point, why were they allowed to make this request when they were arguidos? Was the McCanns arguido status a paper exercise? I suspect it was, if it wasn't, why were the McCanns passports returned to them and why were they given a police escort to the Algarve airport?

The McCanns flew out of the Algarve, the day after they were made arguidos. Who arranged the McCanns flights at such short notice?

The McCanns have provided many signs, which show they are more involved with Madeleine's disappearance than neglect, yet they were given permission to leave Portugal.

There was no evidence to show that Robert Murat was involved with Madeleine's disappearance, yet he had to remain in Portugal and adhere to the terms of his arguido status.

From what I've read of this case, Robert Murat, has had more mud slung at him than the McCanns.

But the McCanns constantly say there is new evidence and the police are doing nothing. So why don't they request the re-opening? The case ws active until August 2008 which is when the arguido status was lifted. Allegedly their PI's have uncovered evidence that must be followed up. We hear nothing.

As to the flight - I believe it was an Easyjet flight - so no private plane from Sir Philip Green this time. High season, getting places at such short notice might means Easyjet had to throw some people off. I've also heard that David Milliband was in Portugal just prior to the 'escape'.

Hi Kathybelle, it was the 3 Tapas Members who said they saw him outside 5a but he said he was at home with his mother .
One curious aspecct to this case is that as far as I know Madeleine is still a Ward of Court . When they tried to get information from Leicester Police the Chief Inspector intervened and said the case was ongoing so they only got 81 pages . Why then, since they were so convinced their Daughter was alive did the McCanns not rescind the order?

tigger wrote:

kathybelle wrote:

jeanmonroe wrote:Panda:

"No, KM can't jeanmonroe. When the case was shelved the McCanns had two months to ask for it to be reopened but they did not apply."
___________________________________________

Which begs the obvious question:

Why would the inconsolable, distraught, heartbroken parents of a missing child NOT apply to have the case 'unshelved' and re-opened?

It's simple, according to Goncalo Amaral, the McCanns asked for the case to be closed, when they were arguidos, so they're never going to ask for it to be reopened.

I wonder why the McCanns wish that the case was closed, granted. More to the point, why were they allowed to make this request when they were arguidos? Was the McCanns arguido status a paper exercise? I suspect it was, if it wasn't, why were the McCanns passports returned to them and why were they given a police escort to the Algarve airport?

The McCanns flew out of the Algarve, the day after they were made arguidos. Who arranged the McCanns flights at such short notice?

The McCanns have provided many signs, which show they are more involved with Madeleine's disappearance than neglect, yet they were given permission to leave Portugal.

There was no evidence to show that Robert Murat was involved with Madeleine's disappearance, yet he had to remain in Portugal and adhere to the terms of his arguido status.

From what I've read of this case, Robert Murat, has had more mud slung at him than the McCanns.

But the McCanns constantly say there is new evidence and the police are doing nothing. So why don't they request the re-opening? The case ws active until August 2008 which is when the arguido status was lifted. Allegedly their PI's have uncovered evidence that must be followed up. We hear nothing.

As to the flight - I believe it was an Easyjet flight - so no private plane from Sir Philip Green this time. High season, getting places at such short notice might means Easyjet had to throw some people off. I've also heard that David Milliband was in Portugal just prior to the 'escape'.

Good morning Tigger

I'd still like to why the McCanns passports were returned to them and why they were given permission to leave the country, when they had just been made arguidos? Why were they given a police escort to the Algarve airport and who arranged the flight at such short notice?

As you say David Milliband was in the area, so therein may lie the answer to my last question. From what I can remember, when the PJ were preparing charges against the McCanns, they were told to drop the charges, by a higher authority, shortly after Gordon Brown met the Portuguese Prime Minister.

Regarding Philip Green, I wouldn't be surprised if Greene, distanced himself from the McCanns, hence them using an Easy Jet flight when they came home from PDL. When he lent them his plane and pilot, they didn't use it for the purpose he intended them to use it. They used the plane to fly to Rome, to meet the Pope and they used it to fly to Amsterdam, when they went to meet friends.

If Greene did distance himself from the McCanns, he wouldn't be the first businessman to do so. Many businessmen, withdrew their pledges, to give money to the reward, which was set up by a newspaper group, when the McCanns were made arguidos.

A couple of years ago, according to an article that was in a newspaper, when the fund was nearly dry, the McCanns went 'cap in hand' to Brian Kennedy, to ask for money. Kennedy who had already funded one of the dodgy private investigators as along with Clarence Mitchell's salary, refused. Again this was in a newspaper, Kennedy told Mitchell he would no longer be paying his salary, if the article was true, Madeleine's fund now pays it. Mitchell now works part time and his salary is £30k per year. No wonder the fund was almost dry, with the McCanns along with their family, dipping into it, then Mitchell taking his £30k salary from it, when Kennedy told him he was no longer paying it.

I'd like to know why the McCanns need a spokesman, they're hardly shrinking violets when it comes to speaking to the media. I'd also like to know why this fund has never been investigated. Maybe it's for the same reason that Scotland Yard, don't appear to be investigating the McCanns.

Panda wrote:Hi Kathybelle, it was the 3 Tapas Members who said they saw him outside 5a but he said he was at home with his mother .
One curious aspecct to this case is that as far as I know Madeleine is still a Ward of Court . When they tried to get information from Leicester Police the Chief Inspector intervened and said the case was ongoing so they only got 81 pages . Why then, since they were so convinced their Daughter was alive did the McCanns not rescind the order?

Good morning Panda

From what I remember, the McCanns took Leicestershire police to court, in a bid to get the remainder of the files they wanted. I can't remember what the outcome was, I'll have a dig around the internet to see what I can find.

I honestly believe Madeleine is no longer alive and the McCanns know this. Hence their reluctance to rescind the order, regarding Madeleine's Ward of Court status, and their reluctance to have the case reopened.

The McCanns proved that what they demand, they get on more than one occasion. When they wrote that letter to David Cameron. Gerry McCann insulted David Cameron, in a media interview, when he likened Cameron's son Ivor's death, to Madeleine's disappearance. Cameron along with his wife, must have been distressed by this remark, but he still bowed to the McCanns wishes and ordered Scotland Yard to review the case.

As long as Scotland Yard don't dig up any information that will incriminate the McCanns.

Regarding Madeleine's 'Ward of Court' status, did the McCanns request she was made a Ward of Court?

They didn't get there way regarding ALL the witheld files....leicester police gave them 81 pieces off worthless information .


Regarding her ward off court.....as Madeleine was made a ward off court, WHO decides about her 'welfare' etc and the libel case, she was added along with the twins then taken off, was that because off the ward off court status and if so, can the STATE decide the outcome off madeleines fate?


Can the STATE take the mccanns to court and decide that enoughs enough?

It was the mccanns who wanted Madeleine to be made a ward off court so that the court can act for Madeleine as she was a minor and also so the mccanns can get hold off information easier by using this status.

It was on 17th may 2007 they asked for her to be made a ward off court and in April 2008 the case were heard.


So as early on as 17th may they wanted to know what information The pj had on them......

The Mccanns once again used Madeleine only this time they used her as far as saying they wanted information on here whereabouts when really they wanted the information the pj had on them.

kitti wrote:It was the mccanns who wanted Madeleine to be made a ward off court so that the court can act for Madeleine as she was a minor and also so the mccanns can get hold off information easier by using this status.

Morning kitti, well the McCanns didn't bargain for the Leicester Chief Constable to intervene saying the case was ongoing. Under U.K. Law, if a person is missing for 7 years and there is an inheritance Will , the Beneficiaries can ask the Court to declare the person dead. In this case there is no will but since the case in Portugal is shelved, not closed , I presume Madeleine will be a Ward of Court until it is. The McCanns wouldn't want Madeleine presumed dead anyway.