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Post  Panda Fri 13 Sep - 9:52


Second day of Madeleine libel case

The mother of missing Madeleine McCann faces further agony as she is expected to attend a Portuguese court for the second day of the family's libel action against a former local police chief.



Published: Fri, September 13, 2013









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Mrs McCann said she was in Portugal to "stop the damage" she believes is being caused to the search for her daughter by Goncalo Amaral, who published a book making allegations about the three-year-old's disappearance.

The McCanns have strongly denied the accusations and say the former detective's claims have damaged the hunt for Madeleine and exacerbated the anguish suffered by her relatives.

Speaking to the press on Thursday, Mrs McCann said: "I'm here today for Madeleine and obviously I strongly hope for justice. I'm here to stop the damage that has been caused and is still being caused, both directly and indirectly, to the search for our daughter."

Mrs McCann said she wants to stop the suffering the theories in the book have caused to her family.

The McCann's lawyer, Isabel Duarte, was due to set out the case on Thursday - on behalf of Mrs McCann, her husband Gerry and their twins Sean and Amelie, now eight - at Lisbon's civil court.

Mrs McCann, who travelled to Portugal for the hearing, could have been called as a witness but is not expected to give evidence. Instead, a number of relatives will appear in the witness box. They will give evidence relating to the "damage" caused by Mr Amaral's book which, they claim, poisoned public opinion in Portugal against the family and allegedly deterred people from hunting for Madeleine.

The family stands to gain around £1 million in damages if its legal action succeeds.

Before the case began, spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Kate and Gerry McCann remain very confident that they will win the case. They have a strong case against Mr Amaral. The matter is now in the hands of their lawyer as it goes through court."

The libel case is expected to be adjourned until next Thursday when the court will sit again for two days. A final hearing is expected on Friday September 27. The judgment is expected to be deferred.
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Post  Panda Fri 13 Sep - 9:56



There is a front page photo of Kate and Madeleine in the Express , but I couldn't do the photos, do you think Desmond is smelling revenge?Express on line  25346 

None of the other dailies have a front page report.
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Post  AnnaEsse Fri 13 Sep - 10:47

Panda wrote:
Second day of Madeleine libel case

The mother of missing Madeleine McCann faces further agony as she is expected to attend a Portuguese court for the second day of the family's libel action against a former local police chief.



Published: Fri, September 13, 2013









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Kate McCann, mother of missing Madeleine McCann

Mrs McCann said she was in Portugal to "stop the damage" she believes is being caused to the search for her daughter by Goncalo Amaral, who published a book making allegations about the three-year-old's disappearance.

The McCanns have strongly denied the accusations and say the former detective's claims have damaged the hunt for Madeleine and exacerbated the anguish suffered by her relatives.

Speaking to the press on Thursday, Mrs McCann said: "I'm here today for Madeleine and obviously I strongly hope for justice. I'm here to stop the damage that has been caused and is still being caused, both directly and indirectly, to the search for our daughter."

Mrs McCann said she wants to stop the suffering the theories in the book have caused to her family.

The McCann's lawyer, Isabel Duarte, was due to set out the case on Thursday - on behalf of Mrs McCann, her husband Gerry and their twins Sean and Amelie, now eight - at Lisbon's civil court.

Mrs McCann, who travelled to Portugal for the hearing, could have been called as a witness but is not expected to give evidence. Instead, a number of relatives will appear in the witness box. They will give evidence relating to the "damage" caused by Mr Amaral's book which, they claim, poisoned public opinion in Portugal against the family and allegedly deterred people from hunting for Madeleine.

The family stands to gain around £1 million in damages if its legal action succeeds.

Before the case began, spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Kate and Gerry McCann remain very confident that they will win the case. They have a strong case against Mr Amaral. The matter is now in the hands of their lawyer as it goes through court."

The libel case is expected to be adjourned until next Thursday when the court will sit again for two days. A final hearing is expected on Friday September 27. The judgment is expected to be deferred.
Surely this called for medical records of the harm done to the McCanns' health and not just a bunch of friends and relations giving their opinions?
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Post  Panda Fri 13 Sep - 11:03

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Second day of Madeleine libel case

The mother of missing Madeleine McCann faces further agony as she is expected to attend a Portuguese court for the second day of the family's libel action against a former local police chief.



Published: Fri, September 13, 2013

EXACTLY AnnaEsse, there needs to be Letters from Doctors and Phsychiatrists reporting on their opinions, not to mention the 2 yr old twins , badly affected by reading and seeing Amaral's lies about their Parents written in Portugese.!!!!









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Mrs McCann said she was in Portugal to "stop the damage" she believes is being caused to the search for her daughter by Goncalo Amaral, who published a book making allegations about the three-year-old's disappearance.

The McCanns have strongly denied the accusations and say the former detective's claims have damaged the hunt for Madeleine and exacerbated the anguish suffered by her relatives.

Speaking to the press on Thursday, Mrs McCann said: "I'm here today for Madeleine and obviously I strongly hope for justice. I'm here to stop the damage that has been caused and is still being caused, both directly and indirectly, to the search for our daughter."

Mrs McCann said she wants to stop the suffering the theories in the book have caused to her family.

The McCann's lawyer, Isabel Duarte, was due to set out the case on Thursday - on behalf of Mrs McCann, her husband Gerry and their twins Sean and Amelie, now eight - at Lisbon's civil court.

Mrs McCann, who travelled to Portugal for the hearing, could have been called as a witness but is not expected to give evidence. Instead, a number of relatives will appear in the witness box. They will give evidence relating to the "damage" caused by Mr Amaral's book which, they claim, poisoned public opinion in Portugal against the family and allegedly deterred people from hunting for Madeleine.

The family stands to gain around £1 million in damages if its legal action succeeds.

Before the case began, spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Kate and Gerry McCann remain very confident that they will win the case. They have a strong case against Mr Amaral. The matter is now in the hands of their lawyer as it goes through court."

The libel case is expected to be adjourned until next Thursday when the court will sit again for two days. A final hearing is expected on Friday September 27. The judgment is expected to be deferred.
Surely this called for medical records of the harm done to the McCanns' health and not just a bunch of friends and relations giving their opinions?
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Post  wjk Fri 13 Sep - 11:57

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Panda wrote:
Second day of Madeleine libel case

The mother of missing Madeleine McCann faces further agony as she is expected to attend a Portuguese court for the second day of the family's libel action against a former local police chief.



Published: Fri, September 13, 2013









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Kate McCann, mother of missing Madeleine McCann

Mrs McCann said she was in Portugal to "stop the damage" she believes is being caused to the search for her daughter by Goncalo Amaral, who published a book making allegations about the three-year-old's disappearance.

The McCanns have strongly denied the accusations and say the former detective's claims have damaged the hunt for Madeleine and exacerbated the anguish suffered by her relatives.

Speaking to the press on Thursday, Mrs McCann said: "I'm here today for Madeleine and obviously I strongly hope for justice. I'm here to stop the damage that has been caused and is still being caused, both directly and indirectly, to the search for our daughter."

Mrs McCann said she wants to stop the suffering the theories in the book have caused to her family.

The McCann's lawyer, Isabel Duarte, was due to set out the case on Thursday - on behalf of Mrs McCann, her husband Gerry and their twins Sean and Amelie, now eight - at Lisbon's civil court.

Mrs McCann, who travelled to Portugal for the hearing, could have been called as a witness but is not expected to give evidence. Instead, a number of relatives will appear in the witness box. They will give evidence relating to the "damage" caused by Mr Amaral's book which, they claim, poisoned public opinion in Portugal against the family and allegedly deterred people from hunting for Madeleine.

The family stands to gain around £1 million in damages if its legal action succeeds.

Before the case began, spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Kate and Gerry McCann remain very confident that they will win the case. They have a strong case against Mr Amaral. The matter is now in the hands of their lawyer as it goes through court."

The libel case is expected to be adjourned until next Thursday when the court will sit again for two days. A final hearing is expected on Friday September 27. The judgment is expected to be deferred.
Surely this called for medical records of the harm done to the McCanns' health and not just a bunch of friends and relations giving their opinions?
Spot on, Anna.
All this is is peoples opinions!!
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Post  almostgothic Fri 13 Sep - 12:09

I kinda got the impression during the last lot of vexatious litigation that this is Duarte's style - ie, if short on empirical data and hard core evidence, then rely on emotion, florid speech, playing to the gallery (and the judge, esp if female).
And, as yesterdays pitiful 'witnesses' showed - that's all she has to work with.
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Post  comperedna Fri 13 Sep - 12:36

On here people seem to think that Brunty, our man in the shabby mac, is very pro McCann. Late last night he was on Sky News, I think it was, giving a summary of the day's events and he said that the McCanns were effectively being accused of having 'staged' the abduction. I have not heard that very accurate word as to what GA believes they did used before!
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Post  Guest Fri 13 Sep - 12:43

comperedna wrote:On here people seem to think that Brunty, our man in the shabby mac, is very pro McCann. Late last night he was on Sky News, I think it was, giving a summary of the day's events and he said that the McCanns were effectively being accused of having 'staged' the abduction. I have not heard that very accurate word as to what GA believes they did used before!
I think he is told exactly what he can and cannot say, and he bends those rules as far as he can. Like the "mistaken" tweets and the news reports that are later whooshed.
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Post  pennylane Fri 13 Sep - 13:36

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comperedna wrote:On here people seem to think that Brunty, our man in the shabby mac, is very pro McCann. Late last night he was on Sky News, I think it was, giving a summary of the day's events and he said that the McCanns were effectively being accused of having 'staged' the abduction. I have not heard that very accurate word as to what GA believes they did used before!
I think he is told exactly what he can and cannot say, and he bends those rules as far as he can. Like the "mistaken" tweets and the news reports that are later whooshed.
Some time back I saw Brunty early one Sunday on Sky news talking a load of pro McCann codswallop.  Immediately after the interview the camera panned back on him unexpectedly, and the expression on his face said it all.  He had his lips pursed sideways, and a 'just shoot me and put me out of my misery' look on his face.  It was so, so funny!
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Post  wjk Fri 13 Sep - 13:37

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comperedna wrote:On here people seem to think that Brunty, our man in the shabby mac, is very pro McCann. Late last night he was on Sky News, I think it was, giving a summary of the day's events and he said that the McCanns were effectively being accused of having 'staged' the abduction. I have not heard that very accurate word as to what GA believes they did used before!
I think he is told exactly what he can and cannot say, and he bends those rules as far as he can.  Like the "mistaken" tweets and the news reports that are later whooshed.
Yes, I'm beginning to think the same.
I heard that report, comperedna.
I thought it was a pretty unbiased report (for Sky news)
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Post  comperedna Fri 13 Sep - 15:53

I thought it was damned accurate and spoken with some vehemence. I think the man tries to be as unbiased and accurate as he can be.

On another useful site I read that the law in Portugal changed in some way on Sept 1st. I do not know in what way, and in what respect, and whether it affects this case. I had this mad idea the fragrant duo could have in some way leaned on... No... Of course not! Does anyone know about this? I don't want to start a thread on it because I may have been totally mistaken.

The judge in this libel trial is a woman, and a woman said to have a lot of experience iof child abuse cases. People were blogging 'A woman!' She will be more susceptible to Isobel Duarte's emotional gubbins and style of going on.' Me, I think that is totally unfair. We have no clue as to how astute she is nor, most of us, me included, about the minutiae of the libel law in Portugal. If she really does have experience with child protection issues, she will certainly be familar with disappearances immediately styled 'abductions', even before anyone has had a good look for the missing child.
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Post  pennylane Fri 13 Sep - 16:08

comperedna wrote:I thought it was damned accurate and spoken with some vehemence.  I think the man tries to be as unbiased and accurate as he can be.

On another useful site I read that the law in Portugal changed in some way on Sept 1st. I do not know in what way, and in what respect, and whether it affects this case. I had this mad idea the fragrant duo could have in some way leaned on... No... Of course not! Does anyone know about this? I don't want to start a thread on it because I may have been totally mistaken.

The judge in this libel trial is a woman, and a woman said to have a lot of experience iof child abuse cases. People were blogging 'A woman!' She will be more susceptible to Isobel Duarte's emotional gubbins and style of going on.' Me, I think that is totally unfair. We have no clue as to how astute she is nor, most of us, me included, about the minutiae of the libel law in Portugal. If she really does have experience with child protection issues, she will certainly be familar with disappearances immediately styled 'abductions', even before anyone has had a good look for the missing child.
As I recall, the judge presiding over the last trial in Lisbon during which 3 very wise judges ruled in Dr Amaral's favour was a woman, so I don't think this should be cause for concern.  Luckily this is a foreign court case too, so the judges are not members of the incestuous British Establishment.
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Post  Panda Fri 13 Sep - 16:32



The young Judge in the case of sequestering Amaral's Book was young and inexperienced which is why her decision was overruled. That's another point....look how long Duarte took to return the Books, only when Amaral made a formal complaint. I must say, seeing Amaral outside the Courthouse yesterday he seems to have lost a lot of weight.
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