Mirror - Madeleine's Parents are Accused of Child Neglect
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Mirror - Madeleine's Parents are Accused of Child Neglect
On the Sky newspaper review the Mirror has this on the top of the front page! I presume it relates to the case in Wales. Worked out how to add the photo now I hope!
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How very unhelpful.Another one for Carter Ruck if theres any money left.
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The article relates to the case in Wales. See "South Wales Evening Post" article entitled, "Madeleine McCann case used as reason not to jail over-the-limit crash mum who'd left five year old home alone".
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interested wrote:The article relates to the case in Wales. See "South Wales Evening Post" article entitled, "Madeleine McCann case used as reason not to jail over-the-limit crash mum who'd left five year old home alone".
I presumed it did but I've never seen it written quite as straight-forward as that before!
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It was pretty cut and dried. That headline should have been in a paper in May 2007.
This was child neglect; you cannot argue that their children were being properly cared for or that she wasn't harmed due to neglect.
This was child neglect; you cannot argue that their children were being properly cared for or that she wasn't harmed due to neglect.
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How many other parents will be exonerated because they were ONLY doing a 'McCann'??
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Now just been mentioned on the midnight news on local radio!
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You got to feel for the twins now.
What a black hole to hell the mccanns dug for themselves when they decided to go party with their mates and put their selfish interests first rather than apply even the minimum amount of parental responsibilities that even an ignorant human being would be aware of.
Not only did they loose the life of one child they have inevitably ruined the lives of the remaining two.
Even if they evade justice they will always walk in the shadow of the grim reaper.
What a black hole to hell the mccanns dug for themselves when they decided to go party with their mates and put their selfish interests first rather than apply even the minimum amount of parental responsibilities that even an ignorant human being would be aware of.
Not only did they loose the life of one child they have inevitably ruined the lives of the remaining two.
Even if they evade justice they will always walk in the shadow of the grim reaper.
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NO McCann NEGLECT = NO 'ABDUCTION'
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That headline is hilarious but so true! The McCann case was not only simple neglect, but neglect leading to harm which carries a much longer sentence. At least this other woman did not lose a child due to her neglect! Another difference between the two cases is at least this woman was remorseful for what she had done.
I have always wondered when people would start pulling the McCann defense. Well, that is finally happening. Good on the McCanns for never, ever admitting culpability and never warning other parents to never, ever leave young children alone. All the advice they can give is to quickly set up a fund and hire the best defense lawyers.
Note to Clarry: Just because someone has not been prosecuted for neglect and has evaded justice for their crime for more than six years, does not mean that the neglect did not happen. Get off your high horse and stop claiming that the McCanns are entirely innocent.
I have always wondered when people would start pulling the McCann defense. Well, that is finally happening. Good on the McCanns for never, ever admitting culpability and never warning other parents to never, ever leave young children alone. All the advice they can give is to quickly set up a fund and hire the best defense lawyers.
Note to Clarry: Just because someone has not been prosecuted for neglect and has evaded justice for their crime for more than six years, does not mean that the neglect did not happen. Get off your high horse and stop claiming that the McCanns are entirely innocent.
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Will we now have a response from "a source," defending the McCanns by telling us, at last, who it was who said that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting?
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jeanmonroe wrote:NO McCann NEGLECT = NO 'ABDUCTION'
I think it was:
Neglect AND No abduction.
Both, plain and simple. Just because the neglect gave the invisible abductor 5 minutes, doesn't mean neglect didn't happen. But yes, I agree, mccanns are using it for their defence. (to give the abductor a change) For them: Minor crime.
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jeanmonroe wrote:NO McCann NEGLECT = NO 'ABDUCTION'
Yes. That's why, right from the beginning, we've had the stories of inadequate checking (all within the bounds of responsible parenting), which allows a window of opportunity for abduction.
If probed, the alternative to abduction could turn out to be far worse.
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The horror show of the "abduction" complete with sighting (of innocent tourist, or no one) gave them enough press momentum to avoid being done for neglect - the poor parents have suffered enough, surely we must focus on finding who took her, etc.
Had there been an abduction and the return of a damaged child (or the finding of a body) I wonder if they would have faced more scrutiny than they did on the neglect issue.
They stuck to MM not being harmed, no proof of it, as if being snatched away as a 3 year old isn't harmful. PJ wanted more than neglect - they wouldn't be seen in a good light in Portugal prosecuting parents who had suffered so much although any parent who leaves the house to go out drinking and has their child die in some way has also suffered - but not nearly as much as the child!
And now the gift continues to give as they provide a defense for other child neglectors.
Had there been an abduction and the return of a damaged child (or the finding of a body) I wonder if they would have faced more scrutiny than they did on the neglect issue.
They stuck to MM not being harmed, no proof of it, as if being snatched away as a 3 year old isn't harmful. PJ wanted more than neglect - they wouldn't be seen in a good light in Portugal prosecuting parents who had suffered so much although any parent who leaves the house to go out drinking and has their child die in some way has also suffered - but not nearly as much as the child!
And now the gift continues to give as they provide a defense for other child neglectors.
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AnnaEsse wrote:Will we now have a response from "a source," defending the McCanns by telling us, at last, who it was who said that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting?
It was their defense lawyers if I recall correctly.
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widowan wrote:AnnaEsse wrote:Will we now have a response from "a source," defending the McCanns by telling us, at last, who it was who said that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting?
It was their defense lawyers if I recall correctly.
I think that AnnaEsse meant who it was who told the McCanns that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting. We have never been told who this so-called expert was, and as we all know, official guidelines say to never, ever leave young children alone.
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Kate's book says it's somebody from International Family Law Group, who flew out immediately it all kicked off. However IFLG denied that anyone from there ever said it, IIRC.
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well someone noticed the elephant in the room and pointed it out, clearly.
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Iris wrote:Kate's book says it's somebody from International Family Law Group, who flew out immediately it all kicked off. However IFLG denied that anyone from there ever said it, IIRC.
That is how I remember it too - we have been assured that what we did was "well within the bounds of responsible parenting" - was it just within the bounds or WELL within them?
A virtual get out of jail free card for child neglectors everywhere, if IFLG group stated this.
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Fact remains their behaviour wasn't good enough so maybe the boundaries should be reviewed before more kids get left at risk.
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Lioned wrote:Fact remains their behaviour wasn't good enough so maybe the boundaries should be reviewed before more kids get left at risk.
And the fact remains that nobody has ever owned up to making this statement. Further, this idiotic and ridiculous statement would never, ever hold up in court.
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jinvta wrote:widowan wrote:AnnaEsse wrote:Will we now have a response from "a source," defending the McCanns by telling us, at last, who it was who said that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting?
It was their defense lawyers if I recall correctly.
I think that AnnaEsse meant who it was who told the McCanns that what they did was within the bounds of responsible parenting. We have never been told who this so-called expert was, and as we all know, official guidelines say to never, ever leave young children alone.
Thanks jinvta. That was what I meant. They did say that some professional or other had reassured them.
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I will always believe that Madeleine was the only child left alone in the McCann apt....the only child left alone amongst the rest off the children.
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