Disintegration Diary, An Empty Cupboard - Blacksmith Bureau

interested Tue 25 Feb - 19:06

Blacksmith's latest, February 25, 2014, "An Empty Cupboard...Come in Page 129...Protect the twins against this filth...etc" available at blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk

**Panda** Tue 25 Feb - 19:34

Hi interested, I clicked on the link but nothing happened....is it me or has anyone else had the same problem??

almostgothic Tue 25 Feb - 19:41

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/

interested Tue 25 Feb - 19:47

Panda wrote:Hi interested, I clicked on the link but nothing happened....is it me or has anyone else had the same problem??

Sorry about that - but thanks to "almostgothic" for posting the correct link!! Apologies for displaying my tech inadequacy....again.

almostgothic Tue 25 Feb - 20:08

interested wrote:
Panda wrote:Hi interested, I clicked on the link but nothing happened....is it me or has anyone else had the same problem??

Sorry about that - but thanks to "almostgothic" for posting the correct link!! Apologies for displaying my tech inadequacy....again.

You're welcome!
And no need to apologise!
I've been there too. It took me the best part of ten years to learn how to do a simple copy and paste. I just couldn't get it!

**Panda** Tue 25 Feb - 20:21

I am like you interested, thick as two planks when it comes to the Computer, I can do just the basic copy, paste, another Member made my Avatar, I still can't place a photo which is why, like you, I just quote the link. Disintegration Diary, An Empty Cupboard - Blacksmith Bureau 294124

Disintegration Diary, An Empty Cupboard - Blacksmith Bureau 294124

Thanks almostgothic, you are certainly more clued up on a Computer then me. I read Blacksmith's meandering offering and must confess I didn't understand much, not one of his best .

almostgothic Tue 25 Feb - 20:25

I thought it was great stuff!

Quote:
"The thought of the gradual upward movement in Anusol sales on Tayside, Valium in Skipton, cheap brandy in that French trailer park and crucifixes in Rothley is great. And how will the good burghers and intellectual salons of Brondesbury cope with a discredited debunkerfuhrer?"

Disintegration Diary, An Empty Cupboard - Blacksmith Bureau 294124

**Panda** Tue 25 Feb - 20:41

almostgothic wrote:I thought it was great stuff!

Quote:
"The thought of the gradual upward movement in Anusol sales on Tayside, Valium in Skipton, cheap brandy in that French trailer park and crucifixes in Rothley is great. And how will the good burghers and intellectual salons of Brondesbury cope with a discredited debunkerfuhrer?"

I didn't get that, obviously you did Disintegration Diary, An Empty Cupboard - Blacksmith Bureau 25346

matthew Tue 25 Feb - 21:49

It means team McCann have got sod all Disintegration Diary, An Empty Cupboard - Blacksmith Bureau 25346

**widowan** Tue 25 Feb - 21:52

He makes a good point. If the Yard had found solid evidence or any evidence of an abduction, why would they wait when they could get PJ on side? They don't seem to have anything,g and if they DID -- well, holding it back til after the libel trial concludes is rather cruel.

The Pros or what he calls WAs (? I think MSM means mainstream media) have had every prediction knocked down, and the contents of the libel trial folders if we get to see them will be interesting just as the PJ files were.

The predications (a little early and a lot optimistic) of McCanns' total exoneration etc being cleared and so forth were false - when the case was shelved with four possible avenues still open -- including MM death in the apt and the staging of the abduction - so many lies or misstatements have been knocked down, there is going to be little left to defend.

Is he right? Will we be closer to the truth, because we've got clear road signs about their "fibbing?"

matthew Tue 25 Feb - 21:59

Correct Widowan...SY would be classed as pitchforkers if they let the poor 'in the loop' parents go to Lisbon without that golden nugget>>Abduction Evidence!

**widowan** Tue 25 Feb - 22:04

matthew wrote:Correct Widowan...SY would be classed as pitchforkers if they let the poor 'in the loop' parents go to Lisbon without that golden nugget>>Abduction Evidence!

ergo they ain't got it.

They have phone records proving people had phone calls in the vicinity, some of those people may have even been crooks, but they certainly don't have evidence that would stand up in court which must drive TM wild since they love talking about the lack of evidence when it helps them.

There just seems to be no evidence and in asking for bank account info, that is grasping at straws. I still hold out hope for the phone records though.

**widowan** Tue 25 Feb - 22:05

almostgothic wrote:I thought it was great stuff!

Quote:
"The thought of the gradual upward movement in Anusol sales on Tayside, Valium in Skipton, cheap brandy in that French trailer park and crucifixes in Rothley is great. And how will the good burghers and intellectual salons of Brondesbury cope with a discredited debunkerfuhrer?"

Yes. When he's good he's good.

matthew Tue 25 Feb - 22:44

widowan wrote:
matthew wrote:Correct Widowan...SY would be classed as pitchforkers if they let the poor 'in the loop' parents go to Lisbon without that golden nugget>>Abduction Evidence!

ergo they ain't got it.

They have phone records proving people had phone calls in the vicinity, some of those people may have even been crooks, but they certainly don't have evidence that would stand up in court which must drive TM wild since they love talking about the lack of evidence when it helps them.

There just seems to be no evidence and in asking for bank account info, that is grasping at straws. I still hold out hope for the phone records though.

Don't believe all you read in the UK press...If Team McCann can spin, so can SY through 'in the loop' parents & in turn a 'source' close to the family.
Have read in to cell site analysis & it can make or break a suspects alibi...the process tracks a mobile phones location chronologically...even if the phone was not registered to you...how would 'smithman' explain the mobile was tracked back to 5A, after being tracked heading towards the ocean? that's IF the 'abductor' did go back to 5A of course

**tanszi** Tue 25 Feb - 23:13

matthew are you saying that a person who went the abduction route was tracked by his phone going back to 5A.

matthew Wed 26 Feb - 0:02

tanszi wrote:matthew are you saying that a person who went the abduction route was tracked by his phone going back to 5A.

No...just IFS. Martin Brunt said when it was revealed SY had opened a full investigation & were taking the lead role, they were going back in time by a couple of days before the reported abduction to go through the phone records...must have given them a lot of information

**Panda** Wed 26 Feb - 0:25

With the cost of this review and investigation now standing at 7 million, when is someone with common sense going to cry halt. The PJ were polite enough to agree to sign the letters......or have they????

Since Cameron was the instigator, he is the one who has to call halt but since he wants to be all things to all people he will not do so soon. Theresa May has the authority but Cameron overrode her opinion to do a scope on the case so she will quite happily let him get on with it.

**widowan** Wed 26 Feb - 2:53

tanszi wrote:matthew are you saying that a person who went the abduction route was tracked by his phone going back to 5A.

He's saying if he did the phone records would show that.

There's no phone record that shows such a thing that the public knows of.

I do believe Sy can spin, they certainly cannot be as lame as they appear, and this is a chess game - they have to have as much if not more experience playing chess than the average perp /suspect/ media monitor - as they do it all the time.

matthew Wed 26 Feb - 8:41

The PJ did investigate the tapas & McCann phone records with pings...on the mobile phones they knew about
The cell site analysis will basically see all the phone numbers in & around the scene of the crime & other places of interest...can only speculate what this evidence will show but there is no sign of a search & rescue operation

mossman Wed 26 Feb - 10:10

Comparison of pings from earlier in the week with police statements and information put forward in the book about trips to the beach etc. would be very interesting. Earlier in the week they may not have been so forensically aware.

**widowan** Wed 26 Feb - 15:47

matthew wrote:The PJ did investigate the tapas & McCann phone records with pings...on the mobile phones they knew about
The cell site analysis will basically see all the phone numbers in & around the scene of the crime & other places of interest...can only speculate what this evidence will show but there is no sign of a search & rescue operation

Do you mean no sign of search and rescue NOW, in Portugal, based on the intell they got from the phones?

Wonder if PJ has signed off? They aren't going to serach and rescue MM out of someone's bank account, which is what they were asked to be able to do, detain people and look at bank records - that doesn't seem like whatever they have found thus far is progressed very far.

Guest Wed 26 Feb - 16:53

tanszi wrote:matthew are you saying that a person who went the abduction route was tracked by his phone going back to 5A.

Obviously can't be Mister Gerry then, he didn't have a phone. None of the Tapas did. I know this to be a fact because Clarence said so. Disintegration Diary, An Empty Cupboard - Blacksmith Bureau 294124

matthew Wed 26 Feb - 17:59

Iris wrote:
tanszi wrote:matthew are you saying that a person who went the abduction route was tracked by his phone going back to 5A.
Obviously can't be Mister Gerry then, he didn't have a phone. None of the Tapas did. I know this to be a fact because Clarence said so.

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almostgothic Wed 26 Feb - 20:27

Iris wrote:
tanszi wrote:matthew are you saying that a person who went the abduction route was tracked by his phone going back to 5A.
Obviously can't be Mister Gerry then, he didn't have a phone. None of the Tapas did. I know this to be a fact because Clarence said so.

Old cocoa tins were Tapas phones
Joined up with lengths of string.
Too bad there were no cool ringtones
But hey, the masts don't 'ping' ......

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