Cameron draws up immigration laws to foil Ukip

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David Cameron draws up immigration laws to foil Ukip
Prime Minister responds to local elections setback, with details expected in an immigration Bill to be announced in the Queen’s Speech
Prime Minister David Cameron
David Cameron is drawing up new immigration laws Photo: REUTERS
By Tim Ross, and Peter Dominiczak10:45PM BST 24 May 2014
David Cameron is drawing up new immigration laws in response to rising anger over the number of EU migrants moving to Britain, The Telegraph can disclose.
The first details are expected in a Bill to be announced in the Queen’s Speech next week, a senior government source said.
Even stronger measures to block Europeans from poor countries coming to Britain for work are likely to be included in the Conservative manifesto for the general election next year.
The plans represent a concerted attempt to combat the rising popularity of the UK Independence Party which threatens to derail the Tories’ hopes of winning an outright parliamentary majority.

Panda wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10854566/David-Cameron-draws-up-immigration-laws-to-foil-Ukip.html



David Cameron draws up immigration laws to foil Ukip
Prime Minister responds to local elections setback, with details expected in an immigration Bill to be announced in the Queen’s Speech
Prime Minister David Cameron
David Cameron is drawing up new immigration laws Photo: REUTERS
By Tim Ross, and Peter Dominiczak10:45PM BST 24 May 2014
David Cameron is drawing up new immigration laws in response to rising anger over the number of EU migrants moving to Britain, The Telegraph can disclose.
The first details are expected in a Bill to be announced in the Queen’s Speech next week, a senior government source said.
Even stronger measures to block Europeans from poor countries coming to Britain for work are likely to be included in the Conservative manifesto for the general election next year.
The plans represent a concerted attempt to combat the rising popularity of the UK Independence Party which threatens to derail the Tories’ hopes of winning an outright parliamentary majority.

And we can trust them to apply the new laws, Panda? I think not.
It's no more than a knee jerk reaction to the fact that Cameron is just waking up to reality. Whichever of the two main parties lies their way into Downing Street in the next GE will continue with the same economic immigration policy, hold down the wages of the electorate, introduce further stealth taxes while rewarding incompetent cheating bankers, politicians and foreign investment.

malena stool wrote:

Panda wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10854566/David-Cameron-draws-up-immigration-laws-to-foil-Ukip.html



David Cameron draws up immigration laws to foil Ukip
Prime Minister responds to local elections setback, with details expected in an immigration Bill to be announced in the Queen’s Speech
Prime Minister David Cameron
David Cameron is drawing up new immigration laws Photo: REUTERS
By Tim Ross, and Peter Dominiczak10:45PM BST 24 May 2014
David Cameron is drawing up new immigration laws in response to rising anger over the number of EU migrants moving to Britain, The Telegraph can disclose.
The first details are expected in a Bill to be announced in the Queen’s Speech next week, a senior government source said.
Even stronger measures to block Europeans from poor countries coming to Britain for work are likely to be included in the Conservative manifesto for the general election next year.
The plans represent a concerted attempt to combat the rising popularity of the UK Independence Party which threatens to derail the Tories’ hopes of winning an outright parliamentary majority.

And we can trust them to apply the new laws, Panda? I think not.
It's no more than a knee jerk reaction to the fact that Cameron is just waking up to reality. Whichever of the two main parties lies their way into Downing Street in the next GE will continue with the same economic immigration policy, hold down the wages of the electorate, introduce further stealth taxes while rewarding incompetent cheating bankers, politicians and foreign investment.

Hi malena, I was wondering why you havn't been posting lately , glad you are here on the rampage again   

Seriously now, there are moves afoot to get rid of the LibDem Leader, Labour too is not happy with Miliband and the Conservatives too are not happy with Cameron .....what does that tell you about our Politicians????I'm still not fussed on Farage so goodness knows what will happen at the Election next year .  

Panda wrote:

malena stool wrote:

Panda wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10854566/David-Cameron-draws-up-immigration-laws-to-foil-Ukip.html



David Cameron draws up immigration laws to foil Ukip
Prime Minister responds to local elections setback, with details expected in an immigration Bill to be announced in the Queen’s Speech
Prime Minister David Cameron
David Cameron is drawing up new immigration laws Photo: REUTERS
By Tim Ross, and Peter Dominiczak10:45PM BST 24 May 2014
David Cameron is drawing up new immigration laws in response to rising anger over the number of EU migrants moving to Britain, The Telegraph can disclose.
The first details are expected in a Bill to be announced in the Queen’s Speech next week, a senior government source said.
Even stronger measures to block Europeans from poor countries coming to Britain for work are likely to be included in the Conservative manifesto for the general election next year.
The plans represent a concerted attempt to combat the rising popularity of the UK Independence Party which threatens to derail the Tories’ hopes of winning an outright parliamentary majority.

And we can trust them to apply the new laws, Panda? I think not.
It's no more than a knee jerk reaction to the fact that Cameron is just waking up to reality. Whichever of the two main parties lies their way into Downing Street in the next GE will continue with the same economic immigration policy, hold down the wages of the electorate, introduce further stealth taxes while rewarding incompetent cheating bankers, politicians and foreign investment.

Hi malena, I was wondering why you havn't been posting lately , glad you are here on the rampage again   

Seriously now, there are moves afoot to get rid of the LibDem Leader, Labour too is not happy with Miliband and the Conservatives too are not happy with Cameron .....what does that tell you about our Politicians????I'm still not fussed on Farage so goodness knows what will happen at the Election next year .  

Hi Panda,
I've been away for my annual weekly fishing holiday. Never seen any news for the whole week other than weather, my EU vote was a postal one so all the buttock clenching, wailing and backstabbing of our honourable members is a heartwarming sight to behold as the spineless creatures search their ranks for another messiah to follow.

Hopefully by the time of the next election martial law will have been declared or perhaps Frau Merkel will send her own representative to guide us down the righteous path of Europeanism.

Seriously, whatever party gets the keys to number 10 we, as a nation cannot continue the same policies as the coalition have promoted, nor revert back to those of New Labour who bankrupted the country allowing us to slide into the disaster they left.

None of the present lot are trustworthy enough to run for a bus let alone a country. We've seen them continuing to rob the public purse, pay themselves an extra 11% while restricting the wages of the workforce to a maximum I believe, of 3% over 3 years. Still, they bring in untold hundreds of thousands of immigrants to work for the minimum wage or less, putting our workers on the scrap heap and destroying the social structure of our country. They literally ooze corruption, yet nothing is ever done to change their off hand attitude to the electorate who believed the mandate they campaigned on.

Perhaps we need the likes of Farage to get rid of the faecal dross of New Labour and Toryism.

Malena, I would have had more respect for Farage if he had resigned as an MEP to go after the seat ...I can't think of a name offhand, a MP who has resigned over the last 18 months , from any party, not the last Tory MP because he he had a massive majority. At the moment UKIP is a protest vote , unless the Walls of Jericho come tumbling down, I can't see Farage gaining many seats at the Election next year.

Perhaps just the fear of UKIP doing well will bring the established parties to their senses and begin to govern the nation properly instead of treating it as their own personal bank account, Panda.

Well malena,UKIP has been  very successful  and there is a possibility he will stand for election in Newark . Cameronn was interviewed and the usual platitudes, "We know we have much to do "etc, looks like the LD will be looking for a new Leader , but more serious for the EU is the discontent among other Countries . This will alarm the EU Parliament because the economy in many Countries is shaky and don't forget Britain is the second highest contributor to the EU.

If Cameron were clever enough to take advantage of this, he could DEMAND Britain opt out of the Human Rights Bill, open Borders, immigration  and
charge for investments, then there would be no need for a Referendum . 

As I am typing this Cameron has just said "we have noted the discontent about Europe and will move forward with our Plan." UUM, what plan would that be Cameron, the one you have IF you are elected next year.??? He's not for real is he.  

Panda wrote:Well malena,UKIP has been  very successful  and there is a possibility he will stand for election in Newark . Cameronn was interviewed and the usual platitudes, "We know we have much to do "etc, looks like the LD will be looking for a new Leader , but more serious for the EU is the discontent among other Countries . This will alarm the EU Parliament because the economy in many Countries is shaky and don't forget Britain is the second highest contributor to the EU.

If Cameron were clever enough to take advantage of this, he could DEMAND Britain opt out of the Human Rights Bill, open Borders, immigration  and
charge for investments, then there would be no need for a Referendum .  

UKIP have indeed done well, Panda..

As for Cameron being bright enought to demand a British opt out of the clauses which don't suit the British people... Well, I believe he'd first have to grow some Gonads and then ask his friends, the smooth talking investors who've bankrolled him and his party for the past 5 years or so, if an opt out was OK by them.

Even if we did opt out of these clauses, we are still paying more to fund the EU than we are to our own elderly and infirm people. While we subsidize the rest of Europe, hundreds of our people are in fuel and food poverty. Many are evicted from their homes by Building Societies who support the likes of Cameron and the Coalition. We here in the UK, the second largest contributor to a greedy and faceless bottomless pit have food banks for our young jobless families. The £350 million weekly which we contribute could put our failing NHS back on a level footing, enabling full provision of health care for those who have paid for it all their working lives, not fritter it away on immigrants from Eastern Europe who've never paid a penny.
rant over. ms.

malena, out of interest I looked up wikipedia and found each Country's contribution

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Net receipts from the EU budget, based on 2009 budget data
(negative amounts show net contributions)[8]
Member state Per capita
(in euros) Percentage
(of national GDP) Total amount
(in million euros)
Austria −59.7 −0.18 −499
Belgium 90.0 0.29 968
Bulgaria 77.4 1.76 589
Cyprus −34.0 −0.18 −27
Czech Republic 150.4 1.11 1,575
Denmark −211.0 −0.53 −1,163
Estonia 416.2 4.02 558
Finland −113.8 −0.36 −606
France −100.4 −0.34 −6,461
Germany −107.3 −0.37 −8,797
Greece 267.2 1.30 3,009
Hungary 265.1 2.68 2,660
Ireland −35.0 −0.09 −156
Italy −100.7 −0.41 −6,046
Latvia 218.8 2.62 495
Lithuania 438.2 5.33 1,468
Luxembourg 2364.5 3.05 1,167
Malta 17.4 0.13 7
Netherlands −90.2 −0.26 −1,488
Poland 160.5 1.66 6,119
Portugal 196.4 1.25 2,087
Romania 74.8 1.24 1,609
Slovakia 88.8 0.78 481
Slovenia 92.8 0.55 189
Spain 9.7 0.04 444
Sweden −43.6 −0.13 −404
United Kingdom −62.7 −0.24 −3,865
Net contributors and recipients[edit]
Net receipts or contributions vary over time, and there are various ways of calculating net contributions to the EU budget, depending, for instance, on whether countries' administrative expenditure is included. Also, one can use either absolute figures (which indicate that Germany is the largest contributor), the proportion of GDP (which show that Denmark is the largest contributor), or per capita amounts (which show that Denmark is the largest contributor). Different countries may tend to favour different methods, to present their country in a more favourable light.

The table shows the traditional calculation (with own resources), based on research by Deutsche Bank Research (net contributors are shown in blue).[8]

As a proportion of GDP, net contributors pay from 0.09 percent (Ireland) to 0.53 percent (Denmark), and net recipients receive from 0.04 percent (Spain) to 5.33 percent (Lithuania).

The four largest net recipients in absolute terms are Poland, Greece, Hungary, Portugal.
The four largest net recipients in per capita terms are Luxembourg, Lithuania, Estonia, Greece
The four largest net recipients as a proportion of GDP are Lithuania, Estonia, Luxembourg, Hungary.
The four largest net contributors in absolute terms are Germany, France, Italy, UK
The four largest net contributors in per capita terms are Denmark, Finland, Germany, Italy.
The four largest net contributors as a proportion of GDP are Denmark, Italy, Germany, Finland.
The EU budget for 2014–2020[edit]
On 29 June 2011, the European Commission presented the Communication 'A budget for Europe 2020' to the European Parliament, the Council, the European Economic and Social Committee and the Committee of the Regions.[9]

Due to the tough economic times, seven member states (Austria, Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden, and the United Kingdom) argued during the 26 March 2012 General Affairs Council meeting that the EC's proposed overall amount for the seven-year EU budget plan should be reduced by €100 billion, or in the case of Sweden, by more than €100 billion.[10]

On 8 February 2013, European Union leaders agreed to cut the budget by 3.3%; the agreement on the proposed budget by the European Council has yet to be approved by the European Parliament, adopted unanimously by the Council of the European Union and ratified by the national parliaments of all member states; if adopted, it will be the first cut in its 56-year history.[11][12][13] The Budget was finally approved by the European Parliament Tuesday 19th November 2013 by overwhelming majority. MEPs voted 537 in favour, 126 against and with 19 abstentions. [14]

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It looks like France , Italy, Germany and Poland are paying more than us , maybe Maggie Thatchers rebate is still being paid. so the other 23 Countries will never be able to pay much more, you have to wonder why they were accepted.

At first glance it's confusing Panda and needs some guidance as to where and how the funding is spent by those in receipt of monies, but I believe whatever we pay we should look after our own before giving millions to other national states.

The NHS is going to get worse.



Waiting 8 1/2 hours in A & E will be a thing off the past


It will be 24 hours instead ...



Immigration will never be lowered.



I dread what to think what will happen if I have a heart attack....my guess is....I will die waiting.


It's too late now , talking about it is a waste off time.



Too many people in this country, too many people taking out off the NHS and not enough putting IN and it's the poor pensioners that have to suffer even though they have put in for 60 years.....let's take away there bus pass, that will save a few million, lets take away there winter fuel allowance, that will save a few million, let's nick there pensions that they have paid in and let's make them pay for their care and when they die, steal their house...in the meantime, let's send 50m to India so they can continue their space programme and give 50m to the IMF, let's open the gates so Immigrants can sign on and get a house and housing benefit, let's give Hooks wife a new house with her 5 kids....two them which have criminal records one off which is to do with terrorism .



Do I sound bitter....50m off us probably sound the same as me

malena stool wrote:At first glance it's confusing Panda and needs some guidance as to where and how the funding is spent by those in receipt of monies, but I believe whatever we pay we should look after our own before giving millions to other national states.

There is going to be more social unrest in the EU after this Election , it's not only the contributions, what about the millions borrowed from the ECB by the poorer Countries ? We know Britain got a raw deal on agriculture where we had to stop producing many items and buy in inferior potatoes and veg , while France did very well !!!

Panda wrote:

malena stool wrote:At first glance it's confusing Panda and needs some guidance as to where and how the funding is spent by those in receipt of monies, but I believe whatever we pay we should look after our own before giving millions to other national states.

There is going to be more social unrest in the EU after this Election , it's not only the contributions, what about the millions borrowed from the ECB by the poorer Countries ? We know Britain got a raw deal on agriculture where we had to stop producing many items and buy in inferior potatoes and veg , while France did very well !!!

We must lay the blame at the door of those who negotiated the terms for us... France, Germany and others all did well because their politicians considered their own population a lot more than did those who signed up for us. I would imagine there was a little bit of palm greasing somewhere along the way for us to keep getting the faecal end of the stick of every edict put out by the faceless EU rulemakers.