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"On The Strength of The Evidence" is available at the Only In America blog - onlyinamericablogging.blogspot.com "Gerry McCann couldn't even tell the truth as to which door he used to enter the apartment that evening; and Redwood is using McCann's own timeline to endorse his theory! Will you f---ing stop!"
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Tuesday, July 15, 2014
On The Strength of The Evidence
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On the strength of the evidence. Firstly, let me make plain my own misnomer. Evidence, there isn't any.
So just what was it that took Scotland Yard's finest, this team of super-sleuths, orf to the sunny climes of Portugal to cause mayhem and consternation at the beginning of the holiday season?
The answer to that, is almost too embarrassing to say; almost, but I shall try to overcome that. After all, it's not my embarrassment we are talking about, but rather that of the metropolitan police and as such, this England. For surely, aren't Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood and his team of the Met's finest, our representatives abroad?
One would think, that after watching this danse macabre, or should that be dansa macabra, whatever? One would think, that after watching for seven long years, the visitation of the McCanns on this world, a fellow might have lost the capacity for embarrassment, even that which should be felt by others. But embarrassment in certain quarters, much like policing 101, is a tad thin on the ground, if in fact, it exists at all?
So just what was the reason that took DCI Redwood and his team to Portugal, and just what was the reason that, at the behest of Scotland Yard, the Portuguese police declared four local men arguido?*
DNA and mobile phone logs, by all accounts. Sounds reasonable you may well think? You may well think that, but at this point in the narrative, is where I normally suggest that you "sit down and strap in." Borrowing the phrase, as is my wont, from the late lamented, Bill Hicks. But let us to the DNA.
. . . where hairs whose DNA was similar to hairs previously found in the 5A apartment (to Maddie's hairs)
I beg your pardon?
whose DNA “was similar
Similar, as in 98% percent similar, the same percentage of DNA that we share with chimpanzees, that kind of similar? Or fifteen out of nineteen aliases** similar? The same fifteen out of nineteen aliases of Madeleine's DNA that were found in the trunk of the McCann's hire car, that kind of similar?
Similar! Do stop.
And then we have the phone logs, and it is of these that I truly despair.
Not for one moment am I doubting the veracity or accuracy of said logs, not in the least I'm not. But the phone logs nonetheless of four Luz residents, please note. One a smackhead, one a beggar who would have been sixteen at the time in question, one a bus/taxi driver who worked at the resort, who:
. . . . had the “opportunity” to select the houses to be robbed
No kidding Sherlock; along with the butcher the baker and the candlestick maker? And lastly, Sergey Malinka, previously cleared of involvement by the PJ.
So is it this most unlikely bunch of suspects that gives me a problem? Under normal circumstances, I might have employed the immortal words of one, John McEnroe, but the choice of suspects pales in the light of other things. So what then is giving me so much trouble?
This:
Four phone records between José Silva and Ricardo Rodrigues, made at the day of the crime, are under suspicion: the phone call made at 17:26 which coincides with the time that Maddie left the crèche; a text message at 21:25 when two members of the McCann's group went to check the children; another at 21:38, when Jane Tanner left the Tapas bar and the last at 21:51, when Kate, Madeleine's mother goes to the apartment, before alerting to the disappearance.
So what's the problem? I shall tell you.
The head of this farce investigation, Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood of Scotland Yard, is using a timeline, written by Gerry McCann and his seven little liars, to corroborate the phone pings of our four unfortunates.
Let me repeat that. Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood of Scotland Yard, is using a timeline, written by Gerry McCann to corroborate a theory that Redwood could only have pulled out of his arse.
Gerry McCann couldn't even tell the truth as to which door he used to enter the apartment that evening; and Redwood is using McCann's own timeline to endorse his theory! Will you fucking stop!
~
*Arguido: A person of interest when applied to McCanns. A suspect when applied to anybody else. Source UK media.
** Fifteen out of nineteen aliases gets you arrested in the UK. Thirteen in the US.
~ ~
Phone calls and hairs frame 4 suspects
Sergey Malinka an arguido because he had a sofa with hairs whose DNA "was similar" to Maddie's
The driver of the resort, José Carlos da Silva, transported the tourists to the Ocean Club apartments in Praia da Luz. He had the “opportunity” to select the houses to be robbed - [robberies] which “tripled” at the time. And, in the three weeks before Maddie's disappearance, on May 3 2007, “two break-ins took place in the same apartment block” - in which the entrance was made “through the windows”.
This circumstance allied to the fact that José, 38 years old, made four phone calls on May 3 that were considered as suspicious, were the reasons why he was constituted as an arguido yesterday at the Judiciary Police (PJ) headquarters, at the request of the Scotland Yard in their letter rogatory to which the CM had access to.
One of the other arguidos is Sergey Malinka, a Russian that had already been constituted as an arguido [sic, he wasn't constituted as an arguido but was considered as a possible suspect to the PJ investigation at the time and cleared of all suspicions later on] by the PJ in 2007. [Malinka] Who had a sofa - that he tried to dispose of and which was later retrieved by the PJ and was subject to forensic analyses - where hairs whose DNA “was similar to hairs previously found in the 5A apartment (to Maddie's hairs) and to those that were retrieved from Robert Murat's bed”.(see secondary news piece)
Another suspect is Ricardo Rodrigues, a beggar, 18 years old: [sic, actually he was 16 years old in 2007 and he is now merely unemployed and is 23 years old] he received phone calls from José (see box). Finally, the other suspect is Paulo Ribeiro, addicted to heroin and a schizophrenic: he is said to have a “strange behaviour” and what connects him to Rodrigues is a suspicious phone call at 12:08 of May 2, 2007.
Four phone records under suspicion
Four phone records between José Silva and Ricardo Rodrigues, made at the day of the crime, are under suspicion: the phone call made at 17:26 which coincides with the time that Maddie left the crèche; a text message at 21:25 when two members of the McCann's group went to check the children; another at 21:38, when Jane Tanner left the Tapas bar and the last at 21:51, when Kate, Madeleine's mother goes to the apartment, before alerting to the disappearance.
Full article and translation by courtesy of the indefatigable Joana Morais
Tuesday, July 15, 2014
On The Strength of The Evidence
Unedited
On the strength of the evidence. Firstly, let me make plain my own misnomer. Evidence, there isn't any.
So just what was it that took Scotland Yard's finest, this team of super-sleuths, orf to the sunny climes of Portugal to cause mayhem and consternation at the beginning of the holiday season?
The answer to that, is almost too embarrassing to say; almost, but I shall try to overcome that. After all, it's not my embarrassment we are talking about, but rather that of the metropolitan police and as such, this England. For surely, aren't Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood and his team of the Met's finest, our representatives abroad?
One would think, that after watching this danse macabre, or should that be dansa macabra, whatever? One would think, that after watching for seven long years, the visitation of the McCanns on this world, a fellow might have lost the capacity for embarrassment, even that which should be felt by others. But embarrassment in certain quarters, much like policing 101, is a tad thin on the ground, if in fact, it exists at all?
So just what was the reason that took DCI Redwood and his team to Portugal, and just what was the reason that, at the behest of Scotland Yard, the Portuguese police declared four local men arguido?*
DNA and mobile phone logs, by all accounts. Sounds reasonable you may well think? You may well think that, but at this point in the narrative, is where I normally suggest that you "sit down and strap in." Borrowing the phrase, as is my wont, from the late lamented, Bill Hicks. But let us to the DNA.
. . . where hairs whose DNA was similar to hairs previously found in the 5A apartment (to Maddie's hairs)
I beg your pardon?
whose DNA “was similar
Similar, as in 98% percent similar, the same percentage of DNA that we share with chimpanzees, that kind of similar? Or fifteen out of nineteen aliases** similar? The same fifteen out of nineteen aliases of Madeleine's DNA that were found in the trunk of the McCann's hire car, that kind of similar?
Similar! Do stop.
And then we have the phone logs, and it is of these that I truly despair.
Not for one moment am I doubting the veracity or accuracy of said logs, not in the least I'm not. But the phone logs nonetheless of four Luz residents, please note. One a smackhead, one a beggar who would have been sixteen at the time in question, one a bus/taxi driver who worked at the resort, who:
. . . . had the “opportunity” to select the houses to be robbed
No kidding Sherlock; along with the butcher the baker and the candlestick maker? And lastly, Sergey Malinka, previously cleared of involvement by the PJ.
So is it this most unlikely bunch of suspects that gives me a problem? Under normal circumstances, I might have employed the immortal words of one, John McEnroe, but the choice of suspects pales in the light of other things. So what then is giving me so much trouble?
This:
Four phone records between José Silva and Ricardo Rodrigues, made at the day of the crime, are under suspicion: the phone call made at 17:26 which coincides with the time that Maddie left the crèche; a text message at 21:25 when two members of the McCann's group went to check the children; another at 21:38, when Jane Tanner left the Tapas bar and the last at 21:51, when Kate, Madeleine's mother goes to the apartment, before alerting to the disappearance.
So what's the problem? I shall tell you.
The head of this farce investigation, Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood of Scotland Yard, is using a timeline, written by Gerry McCann and his seven little liars, to corroborate the phone pings of our four unfortunates.
Let me repeat that. Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood of Scotland Yard, is using a timeline, written by Gerry McCann to corroborate a theory that Redwood could only have pulled out of his arse.
Gerry McCann couldn't even tell the truth as to which door he used to enter the apartment that evening; and Redwood is using McCann's own timeline to endorse his theory! Will you fucking stop!
~
*Arguido: A person of interest when applied to McCanns. A suspect when applied to anybody else. Source UK media.
** Fifteen out of nineteen aliases gets you arrested in the UK. Thirteen in the US.
~ ~
Phone calls and hairs frame 4 suspects
Sergey Malinka an arguido because he had a sofa with hairs whose DNA "was similar" to Maddie's
The driver of the resort, José Carlos da Silva, transported the tourists to the Ocean Club apartments in Praia da Luz. He had the “opportunity” to select the houses to be robbed - [robberies] which “tripled” at the time. And, in the three weeks before Maddie's disappearance, on May 3 2007, “two break-ins took place in the same apartment block” - in which the entrance was made “through the windows”.
This circumstance allied to the fact that José, 38 years old, made four phone calls on May 3 that were considered as suspicious, were the reasons why he was constituted as an arguido yesterday at the Judiciary Police (PJ) headquarters, at the request of the Scotland Yard in their letter rogatory to which the CM had access to.
One of the other arguidos is Sergey Malinka, a Russian that had already been constituted as an arguido [sic, he wasn't constituted as an arguido but was considered as a possible suspect to the PJ investigation at the time and cleared of all suspicions later on] by the PJ in 2007. [Malinka] Who had a sofa - that he tried to dispose of and which was later retrieved by the PJ and was subject to forensic analyses - where hairs whose DNA “was similar to hairs previously found in the 5A apartment (to Maddie's hairs) and to those that were retrieved from Robert Murat's bed”.(see secondary news piece)
Another suspect is Ricardo Rodrigues, a beggar, 18 years old: [sic, actually he was 16 years old in 2007 and he is now merely unemployed and is 23 years old] he received phone calls from José (see box). Finally, the other suspect is Paulo Ribeiro, addicted to heroin and a schizophrenic: he is said to have a “strange behaviour” and what connects him to Rodrigues is a suspicious phone call at 12:08 of May 2, 2007.
Four phone records under suspicion
Four phone records between José Silva and Ricardo Rodrigues, made at the day of the crime, are under suspicion: the phone call made at 17:26 which coincides with the time that Maddie left the crèche; a text message at 21:25 when two members of the McCann's group went to check the children; another at 21:38, when Jane Tanner left the Tapas bar and the last at 21:51, when Kate, Madeleine's mother goes to the apartment, before alerting to the disappearance.
Full article and translation by courtesy of the indefatigable Joana Morais
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So, what timeline should we be going by then?
Do SY have their own timeline? Do the PJ have their own timeline? If not why not?
If the answer is no, it is because at the very beginning of this case (before the involvement of Mr Amaral) there existed a very big flaw. The flaw is obvious; that the GNR relied on a timeline written by all the males in the tapas group. That the GNR allowed this to happen and did not query it.
And since that time frankly there has been no other timeline available (not to my knowledge anyway). Okay, staff statements but these vary too much also. So, no other timeline to go on.
So, yes, phone pings of four rather dubious characters who live in the vicinity, sounded off at moments when the only timeline there is showed McCann activity as well. But with no proof whatsoever that McCann and Co are lying either (and changing statements/stories does not prove lying although yes I know what I think on the subject), well it might be clutching at straws to some people but it is the only timeline we have so, unfortunately, there is no choice other than to go with it.
That is not the fault of SY, that is not the fault of Mr Amaral. But it is what it is and unless there is evidence elsewhere that is stronger to show where the McCanns were at any given time, then its all there is I'm afraid.
If SY/Operation Grange can pull the timeline apart even more (as they did with JT's phoney sighting) what's wrong with that?
You know, these four dubious characters just might hold the key to more McCann lies being exposed and believe me if they do then SY will expose the McCanns, just as they did with JT's sighting. You see, these four are witnesses as well. If the McCann timeline is incorrect perhaps if they were hanging about in order to rob, they may have seen just what the McCanns were up to elsewhere which rips the timeline apart.
I may be hoping against hope here, but if its all there is to go by well yes its unfortunate but doesn't mean it shouldn't be investigated all the same.
Do SY have their own timeline? Do the PJ have their own timeline? If not why not?
If the answer is no, it is because at the very beginning of this case (before the involvement of Mr Amaral) there existed a very big flaw. The flaw is obvious; that the GNR relied on a timeline written by all the males in the tapas group. That the GNR allowed this to happen and did not query it.
And since that time frankly there has been no other timeline available (not to my knowledge anyway). Okay, staff statements but these vary too much also. So, no other timeline to go on.
So, yes, phone pings of four rather dubious characters who live in the vicinity, sounded off at moments when the only timeline there is showed McCann activity as well. But with no proof whatsoever that McCann and Co are lying either (and changing statements/stories does not prove lying although yes I know what I think on the subject), well it might be clutching at straws to some people but it is the only timeline we have so, unfortunately, there is no choice other than to go with it.
That is not the fault of SY, that is not the fault of Mr Amaral. But it is what it is and unless there is evidence elsewhere that is stronger to show where the McCanns were at any given time, then its all there is I'm afraid.
If SY/Operation Grange can pull the timeline apart even more (as they did with JT's phoney sighting) what's wrong with that?
You know, these four dubious characters just might hold the key to more McCann lies being exposed and believe me if they do then SY will expose the McCanns, just as they did with JT's sighting. You see, these four are witnesses as well. If the McCann timeline is incorrect perhaps if they were hanging about in order to rob, they may have seen just what the McCanns were up to elsewhere which rips the timeline apart.
I may be hoping against hope here, but if its all there is to go by well yes its unfortunate but doesn't mean it shouldn't be investigated all the same.
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