Scramble?

The scramble to get aboard the referendum gravy train is almost laughable After total opposition to any such vote. Labour has finally realised the people want one, and so they too are now in favour. Very sadly I still believe this is a version of the three card trick by Cameron. He himself wants to stay in the EU, he makes no secret of it, and I don't think we would stand for a second vote if the first gave the wrong answer as happened in Eire a few years ago.

All countries have an equal vote, and more than half are badly in need off rebuilding their infrastructure, which we are paying for our share of, while their nationals come here work for a few years, then go home and build themselves a good life on the money we have provided them, while keeping our own unemployed. There is a lot of talk about training programmes to outfit our own with the skills needed. It doesn't quite work that way. Many companies talk a wonderful training programme, but training is the first target when economies are made.

In the meantime several of our EU colleagues have said that the free movement across borders is not negotiable. I wonder how that one is going to be disguised when the time comes.

Hello katertaif, well you know what they say " a weeks a long time in politics" It has been nearly three now so I suppose they think we plebs have already forgotten what they said before the election.

One thing I do know for sure, is that if Labour had won the election and were in government now, there would be absolutely no chance of referendum.

fuzeta wrote:Hello katertaif, well you know what they say " a weeks a long time in politics"  It has been nearly three now so I suppose they think we plebs have already forgotten what they said before the election.

One thing I do know for sure, is that if Labour had won the election and were in government now,  there would be absolutely no chance of referendum.  

Spot on fuzeta. If labour had won he election the whole issue would have been shelved. Now they are in the position of actually having to "woo" the voters all over again, so on such matters as the referendum our views are important.

We do now that the vast majority of those who when it suits them are our representatives are hell bent on staying in the EU so when the campaign for and against starts we can expect it to be relentlessly biased to that viewpoint. How Armaggedon will ensue if we leave etc.

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staying in the eu is a no brainer but has to be done on more favourable terms. clearly, some members are not in favour of this because the uk pays one hell of a whack but then that's because they're screwed. socialism has failed. the uk knows this. the eu needs to accept this. they won't. utopia is the goal. deluded fools.